Yeah I wasn’t expecting that, 2019 as well, not heard it discussed much elsewhere.
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Yeah I wasn’t expecting that, 2019 as well, not heard it discussed much elsewhere.
They have won END OF STORY
Think you’re being a bit dramatic mate
Though granted I am watching from the lens of a neutral, not an England fan. Regardless of the outcome, this has been the most entertaining test series I’ve watched in a long time. Probably the best since the series where India beat Australia down under with a decimated team.Think you’re being a bit dramatic mate
I'm really not being when you consider how we have utterly chucked away a test victory at Edgbaston and that stupid chasing of a short ball at Lord's when 188-1
With this team, I really don't see england losing 4-1 or 5-0 in Aus for once. So, there is that to look forward to.
England will need a far better bowling line up to compete down under. Given the age of their pace attack, it's a real concern.
I see Croadyman is back turbo posting now there's a bit of doom to focus on.
Where are the really quick options outside of Wood who also will be two years older in 2025
If the forecast is bad you just allow the option to play until 7-7:30 if light allows, rather than ending at 6:30. The same way we do if time has already been lost, and everyone manages to cope with that. Similarly if overs haven’t been bowled in the day and conditions are good, they should just keep going.
The weather affects everyone equally. England have been screwed this time but Australia could have been on top and done by it. I’m obviously upset about it ending our chances of winning but that’s a separate thing as to whether there are any reasonable adjustments that can be made to maximise playing time in a game.
In a world where we have day/night tests now I just think the bad light stuff is particularly avoidable.
Sorry this is all nonsense. How do we decide when the forecast is bad enough to just randomly play an extra hour on day one?
Nothing is that simple hence we still have these debates 150 years into the games history.
So much was avoidable that's why I am absolutely raging and spitting feathers at this outcome
You should only play the extra hour to get all 90 overs in. Shouldn't just be playing on to get a 100 overs bowled just in case of bad weather.
How many over were lost days 1 through 3 does anyone know?
Couldn't get a post out of you to save my life when we were spanking them last week
I am sure I saw the number 27 being touted
I completely agree over rates are a huge problem.
I don't agree days lost to weather are.
I didn't realise back then how utterly dire the forecast was,if I had then would have been plenty of posts lamenting those earlier tests.
We're agreeing. There should have been 270 overs bowled those first 3 days. There definitely wasn't.
The point he is making is you can't ever come in and post when things are going well. You only show up when it's doom and gloom
Jesus Christ, get a grip.
They should certainly look at making up more lost overs if light allows, however, it’s also the case that there’s so many more variables that can effect it now. Multiple reviews being used, concussion tests etc.
Rain is what it is, I’m not really that bothered by having a back up day, but similarly wouldn’t moan if they introduced one. What happens if you’ve got almost two full days effected like this, do you have two back up days?
Seems like they really should focus on advancing the technology. Having big pools of water on the outfield can surely be changed. Drainage should be much better these days.
Rain is what it is, I’m not really that bothered by having a back up day, but similarly wouldn’t moan if they introduced one. What happens if you’ve got almost two full days effected like this, do you have two back up days?
Seems like they really should focus on advancing the technology. Having big pools of water on the outfield can surely be changed. Drainage should be much better these days.
Stone and Archer? Neither can stay fit. I honestly have no idea. Josh Tongue is pretty quick but still probably too early to say if he's the right quality to lead an attack.
Rattled apparently 
“we only need 40 overs to bowl them out” - gets 30 for loss of one wicket…
Job done, nobody gives a shit about the last test. All Australia ever have to do is retain the ashes in England and it’s a victory. Whatever other mental gymnastics you lot can come up with to claim moral victory is fine by me.
“we only need 40 overs to bowl them out” - gets 30 for loss of one wicket…
Job done, nobody gives a shit about the last test. All Australia ever have to do is retain the ashes in England and it’s a victory. Whatever other mental gymnastics you lot can come up with to claim moral victory is fine by me.
I haven’t said it’s simple or even that it is a change that should be made. I said I think across the board cricket does need to look at ways to maximise both playing time and playing time at full standard (ie limiting having to turn to spin only) and then in response to the suggestion it would mean bowlers being run into the ground I just said it would be no different to the extensions we already have retrospectively.
You’re right the main argument against is that no one can be certain on what time would be lost and who decides, so I can see why it hasn’t been done.
Rattled apparently
“we only need 40 overs to bowl them out” - gets 30 for loss of one wicket…
Job done, nobody gives a shit about the last test. All Australia ever have to do is retain the ashes in England and it’s a victory. Whatever other mental gymnastics you lot can come up with to claim moral victory is fine by me.
Ok pal good to see you are totally chilled. Thanks for letting us know. The famously good way to show it.
England were going to win this test without a doubt, but as far as the ashes go they only have themselves to blame for not winning.
Still think a rain day should be a case in competitive tests such as these, would be a much fairer resolution.
Still think a rain day should be a case in competitive tests such as these, would be a much fairer resolution.
Rattled apparently
“we only need 40 overs to bowl them out” - gets 30 for loss of one wicket…
Job done, nobody gives a shit about the last test. All Australia ever have to do is retain the ashes in England and it’s a victory. Whatever other mental gymnastics you lot can come up with to claim moral victory is fine by me.
The weather did the job for you, I don’t think you can use yesterday as a sign of there being no issues with Australian performance. As for rattled, it seems like they are post Lords. One defeat and on for another heavy one here, hence not seeing you in the thread.
Congrats on retaining though. England were sloppy in the first two and left themselves exposed to this.
I'm not sure how we have ourselves to blame for losing a nailed on win to bad weather. It's just bad luck.
He's trying very hard mate. He's really, REALLY relaxed.
Read what I put.
The first two tests are where England lost the Ashes, not this test, which they were going to win easily.
But if we win this test - which we didn't due to some bad luck...we could have won the ashes? So we didn't lose it in the first two?
As a passive cricket viewer this crap puts you off watching it in the future.
It rained today, so what, just finish the game tomorrow when the weather is better ffs, what an utterly stupid way to decide a game.
It rained today, so what, just finish the game tomorrow when the weather is better ffs, what an utterly stupid way to decide a game.
Stick to being passive then mate. Weather is an important part of cricket, and one of its best aspects.
Fair enough, still seems stupid.
I'm a big horse racing fan, where also the the weather is an important factor, but if they abandon the meeting due to the weather then the horses have another day, or where the meeting goes ahead the horses take their chances or don't race, but at least they are given the chance to decide the result, the same as football.
I like the Horses myself mate. Different sport, different circumstances.
Cricket has a few issues, but it occasionally raining isn't one of them.
2-1 with every coin toss, injury, shit umpire ruling going your way
2-1 with every coin toss, injury, shit umpire ruling going your way
If I wanted to shitpost with opposition fans at this level of bantz I'd just post in the football forum mate.
2-1 with every coin toss, injury, shit umpire ruling going your way
Pope, Leach, Archer etc you want to talk about injuries to one player we have plenty missing
How is the outcome for the rain been the deciding factor for Australia to retain the Ashes a fair outcome when England were 1/!00 to win? And then also make the 5th test a must view to a must avoid.
I don't know the answer, and I'm happy to be educated
The weather isn't biased is it? It hit England at a bad time. For all I know Australia would batter us at the Oval then it would rain and help us out?
It's frustrating as feck but it's just the game.
And there's plenty to be interested about at the Oval. I really don't want Australia to win a series here.
Thank you for the effort. but still seems self inflicted harm on the sport to me.
Can't think of another sport where the rain is so defining.