Yup and with this test ending the way it did this 2-2 would be even worse
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Yup and with this test ending the way it did this 2-2 would be even worse
The English complaining that it is raining in Manchester is mildly hilarious.
Urban myth that it's always raining in Manchester, a bit like there's more city fans in Manchester too.
Yes it's pretty boring.
Yep, it’s an entirely circumstantial call isn’t it. I get for one off tests and finals etc but for a multiple test series, 5 days is more than sufficient to force a result more often than not and if you lose a test to rain, guess what you had 4 others to get results in. If England were 2-1 up no one would care as much about this test being washed out in it’s current match context.
The more pressing concern is over rates. Everyone’s still going on about declarations putting time back into the game but we’ve had 3 and 1/3 days worth of cricket here and only 3 days worth of overs, that’s not good enough.
It rained a feck of a lot when I lived there for over 20 years. Even now it rains on close to 50% of days.
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Damn Damn Damn why couldn't this game have took place where weather was better today
Think Old Trafford is far ahead of any other test ground for number of lost days to weather in the UK.
My main view was going harder at the end of day 2 and putting them in for 5 overs at the end, but by declaring at midday on day 3, they could have gained 20 overs, because they were batting for an hour after lunch.
We’d have lost 130 runs, however, if could have batted more aggressively at the end of day 2 and the first hour of day 3.
It’s undeniable we’d have had a better chance of scoring 200 runs in 20 overs than what’s actually played out.
We lost it at Edgbaston and Lords
If it plays out like expected it won't matter either way because we wouldn't have got the 20 overs to chase the runs.
Yea - with number of overs washed out, I think decision to declare/not decision will end up being irrelevant
Unless you get a session today and they end 8 down
Draw. Shame.
Hope we beat them at the Oval to draw the series as they really don't deserve the win.
Hope we beat them at the Oval to draw the series as they really don't deserve the win.
Yep any declaration earlier would mean we either would need to have a bat yesterday or today at some point so that theory isn't really worth talking about, they did the right thing we needed Marnus early yesterday to have a chance and when that didn't happen a draw was always the most likely result.
There was a bit during the day yesterday they had anderson bowling 80mph bouncers with the field spread. Didn't understand that tactic.
Pretty heartbreaking way for things to end. Genuinely think we would have won the Ashes this time given we would have had all the momentum going into the Oval.
I don’t think there was anything England could have done differently to win this match, we’ve just been totally done by the weather. The only lessons to learn are from Edgbaston and Lords where if we’d been less sloppy the draw wouldn’t have cost us so heavily here. Still, great response ever since then at least
Only 4 years to wait for another go on home turf…
I don’t think there was anything England could have done differently to win this match, we’ve just been totally done by the weather. The only lessons to learn are from Edgbaston and Lords where if we’d been less sloppy the draw wouldn’t have cost us so heavily here. Still, great response ever since then at least
Only 4 years to wait for another go on home turf…
Well he can declare this series as null and void as well just like he did with previous ashes in Australia.
England go 4-0 up in the moral Ashes.
Whitewash on the cards
Wait, is it correct that the Ashes were squeezed into the window it was to accommodate the fecking Hundred?
We would usually have a few tests in August- and we do again next year.
In terms of start and end point I think so, most Ashes series are squeezed in a similar length of time of around 45 days though.
Well well well
To be fair, whoever thinks playing test cricket in Manchester any time of the year needs investigating. 5 days in a row with little rain is wishful. There’s more chance of me getting wet walking to the shops than there is of me stepping in a running shower.
Nonsense.
Pommies moaning about the weather, after benefitting from the showers in the last test. Never change.
I see our resident neutral is back
Interested to see how Australia approach the final test. Do they come out of their shell a bit with the fallback of the Ashes being retained or will they pack the batting and play for a draw again?
Be interesting to see the forecast as that will play a part. Fairly wet at the moment.
It'll still be a good test I believe. Aussies will want to prove this beatdown was a one off and that they're still much better than the English. I wanted an English win just because of the drama of a decider test. Guess we won't get that but it will still be a good test unless the Aussies are just happy to go home with the urn regardless of score.
I think they missed a big chance to win the series last time, and havent won in 20 years. I would expect them to go for the win
Shame for the Ashes to be decided by rain
They could have gone for it at Headingley and they didn’t. They’ve seemed pretty tense since the Bairstow dismissal and subsequent Stokes onslaught, I’m wondering if retaining today will release some tension though.
I don’t understand what your complaint is here. You wouldn’t be frustrated if your team was prevented from a certain victory, and the chance to stay in competition for the overall prize, by two days of pretty much total washout?
No one is saying England have had worse luck than Australia so that is a straw man. Both teams have had strokes of bad luck across the series and these things happen, but fans are allowed to be disappointed.
It's a damn shame there's no test match in August. Four years ago the Ashes was still a week away from starting and in a normal schedule this time of year would be the second test of the summer.
Just going through the teams and I have completely missed how different the next series here will look. For Australia I think Warner, Khawaja, Smith, Lyon, Starc, Hazelwood will probably not be here next time, Smith is the only one I think who could be. For England I can’t see anyone outside of Crawley, Duckett, Brook and maybe Root making it to the next one.
Also possible that this is Jimmy’s last test ever.
Retaining the Ashes won't be enough for Australia this time, they'll want to win the series this time. They'll be very keen to win a series in England for the first time since 2001. While 2-2 is good enough, they won't be keen on hearing about how they only retained the Ashes due to the Manchester rain. A series win put that nonsense to bed.