English cricket thread

England will win this at a canter from here, and it sets up a close series overall. England will win 3-2.
 
Woakes averages 22 in 26 home tests, as well as 34 with the bat.

That's with a strike rate of 44 and an economy rate of 3.

I am not sure if he could have played in the second test; but as he has a brilliant record at Lords (averages 11 with the ball), he should have.

He hasn't bowled like someone coming back from injury. He's been pretty sharp pace-wise and he's had his usual control.
 
I'm pleased we're seemingly gonna get a result. Drawing this test would definitely have been my least favourite outcome. Aussies edging two tests and then rain winning it for them, I would've felt hard done by. If they edge three in a row that's a fair pattern.
 
Woakes averages 22 in 26 home tests, as well as 34 with the bat.

That's with a strike rate of 44 and an economy rate of 3.

I am not sure if he could have played in the second test; but as he has a brilliant record at Lords (averages 11 with the ball), he should have.

He hasn't bowled like someone coming back from injury. He's been pretty sharp pace-wise and he's had his usual control.

Those few extra mph over Robinson/Anderson make a big difference too. I think Tongue, Wood and Woakes have given the attack a lot more impetus and on reflection syncing up Anderson, Broad and Robinson was an error, they’re just too similar.
 
Those few extra mph over Robinson/Anderson make a big difference too. I think Tongue, Wood and Woakes have given the attack a lot more impetus and on reflection syncing up Anderson, Broad and Robinson was an error, they’re just too similar.


I agree with all this.

Regardless of what happens here, Anderson is very likely to come back in for the Old Trafford test. It is probably going to be his last or next to last Ashes test and he may make sure he goes out in style at his stomping ground.

Broad has been England's best bowler by a mile but he might need to put his feet up for the fourth test. Again, it's a tough call because Broad has grown into the series and he wants to play every test.

I don't think Robinson has been fully fit but with Jimmy it's hard to say if it is fitness, age, or approach. In my view, he hasn't bneen making Australia play enough, so they could just comfortably leave him. Generally just too short and wide to be effective at the pace he's bowling at.

With the movement we've seen at Headingley he could have gone well here but it's hard to say. Tongue was pretty unlucky to miss out here, because he got some swing at Lords and looked sharp.

England have some thinking to do if they can somehow keep this alive.
 
England take the T20 portion of the Ashes 2-1 which is apparently the first series defeat for Australia since 2017.

It's the 50 over cricket that remains that is considered to be Australia's strongest suit, right?
 
Woakes is great in home conditions. Not likely to let you down with bat or ball as an 8. Finds just enough movement to take the edges but not too much.

Crap away from home of course, shouldn't be picked for tours but it was a good idea bringing him in for this so credit to them for that pick. Wasn't completely obvious.
 
Woakes is great in home conditions. Not likely to let you down with bat or ball as an 8. Finds just enough movement to take the edges but not too much.

Crap away from home of course, shouldn't be picked for tours but it was a good idea bringing him in for this so credit to them for that pick. Wasn't completely obvious.

I was really keen on him at Lord's and then surprised they overlooked him there to bring him in here. But better late than never and he's been superb. Could easy of had five in the first innings with better catching.
 
Surprised to see Australia are 11/4 to win, I think it's a lot closer than that with England possibly just favourites.
 
I think Brook at 3 is a potential walking wicket so this can easily become 40/2.

If we need less than 100 no more than 4 down we will do it.
 
Surprised to see Australia are 11/4 to win, I think it's a lot closer than that with England possibly just favourites.

Yeah, having slept on it, I think Australia are going to give it a red-hot dip today. Ashes there for the taking plus the baggage of 2019, I think there will be a little bit extra in how their bowlers are hitting the deck. Going to be very tight.
 
England take the T20 portion of the Ashes 2-1 which is apparently the first series defeat for Australia since 2017.

It's the 50 over cricket that remains that is considered to be Australia's strongest suit, right?
T20’s were definitely England’s favoured format. I think England made the test a lot closer than anyone was anticipating until the mini collapse.

Unrelated note. How fecking tall is Broad. Making Butcher look tiny.
 
I don’t really get DRS in this situation. If it’s pitching in line, hitting in line, and hitting the stumps (at all), why should it be umpires call? Why should it matter how plumb it hits the stumps
 
I don’t really get DRS in this situation. If it’s pitching in line, hitting in line, and hitting the stumps (at all), why should it be umpires call? Why should it matter how plumb it hits the stumps

Because there's a margin of error in the technology itself.
 
I don’t really get DRS in this situation. If it’s pitching in line, hitting in line, and hitting the stumps (at all), why should it be umpires call? Why should it matter how plumb it hits the stumps
Yeah always wondered about that. My only thought is that the technology is not deemed perfect hence when close it’s the call by umpire.
 
To be fair if he’s just going to swing then maybe best to have him out early and chip away at some runs to lessen the target for batsmen who can stick around a bit

I think it's half that and half Brooks head has gone a bit. Needs a rest.
 
I’d put all the bowlers in next to swing the bat a bit and get some runs on the board then have the batsmen come in and finish it off.
 
Because there's a margin of error in the technology itself.
Yeah always wondered about that. My only thought is that the technology is not deemed perfect hence when close it’s the call by umpire.
Yeah I get the actual ruling, it just seems weird. I doubt there’s all that much inaccuracy in the remaining line after the balls hit the pads anyway
 
I don’t really get DRS in this situation. If it’s pitching in line, hitting in line, and hitting the stumps (at all), why should it be umpires call? Why should it matter how plumb it hits the stumps

There is prediction that goes into tracking the ball from the point of impact to the stumps, so there is always uncertainty in that respect. We've seen how the ball can suddenly swing in the air after it passes the bat to the keeper, so I can understand uncertainty regarding that.

For impact I think it's just to give the umpires leeway and understand that it's a very fine margin and they don't want to take authority out of the umpire's hands.

That being said, I would much rather they move it to 25% margin rather than 50%. We've seen occasions where the ball is smashing the stumps but it's umpires call because it's just under 50%.
 
Why not though, they tire the bowlers out more for the real batsmen and if the manage to get some runs it’s demoralising for the bowlers.

Plus fun to what!
They used up the new ball as well. But the tail enders will usually do better against the older ball.
 
Frustrating that he didn’t even really have a swing at it. Feels like a bit of a waste :lol: