English cricket thread

Bairstow has always been leaden footed behind the stumps. He's never a frontline keeper. Can be costly at times.
 
Bairstow must be relieved that those two wickets came so soon after the drops. He was always going to be needing to contribute with the bat to make up for the drop in keeping quality, but I didn’t expect him to be dropping catches and missing stumpings so often.

What a morning though.
 
I think Jofra gets a bit overrated at times.

I think if both Wood and Archer had have been available it would have been more prudent to rotate them to try and give them the best chance of finishing a series. Plus not risk one breaking down mid game. That's too high a likelihood with both included.
 
I think Jofra gets a bit overrated at times.

I think if both Wood and Archer had have been available it would have been more prudent to rotate them to try and give them the best chance of finishing a series. Plus not risk one breaking down mid game. That's too high a likelihood with both included.

Oh yeah rotating them should have been what happened earlier in his career. Unfortunately Root overbowled him in NZ and sadly that's probably it for test career
 
I think Jofra gets a bit overrated at times.

I think if both Wood and Archer had have been available it would have been more prudent to rotate them to try and give them the best chance of finishing a series. Plus not risk one breaking down mid game. That's too high a likelihood with both included.
Agreed he had express pace but his line and length was far from being a top bowler.
 
Looks like I missed some good cricket, typical, caught Smiths wicket though, big one. Woods is a fecking beast, we win the first test with him playing.
 
Agreed he had express pace but his line and length was far from being a top bowler.
Sometimes he didn't find the rhythm to hit top pace either. Or maybe holding it back due to injuries and fitness.

I'd say he had incredible attributes. Natural. The ease at which he did things was unbelievable. But it is still mostly potential. Can't really say he would have ripped through the Aussies consistently but it would have been a good option.
 
Sometimes he didn't find the rhythm to hit top pace either. Or maybe holding it back due to injuries and fitness.

I'd say he had incredible attributes. Natural. The ease at which he did things was unbelievable. But it is still mostly potential. Can't really say he would have ripped through the Aussies consistently but it would have been a good option.

I am adamant his workload was mismanaged and unfortunately he has paid for it
 
These drops and missed stumpings are costing us in this series.
We've got both head and Marsh been given a second chance now.
 
It's not like there difficult chances either. The Bairstow second one and the Root one are just routine, straight-forward catches.
 
3 catches shelled so early in the match is criminal, extras high already too. We really need to get our act together with this.
 
What on earth is going on with the catching this series? It feels too casual. Do they even practice this?
 
Why hasn't Marsh been around the test side for so long? Looks good

Utter shite against anyone not England

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I'm not a regular cricket watcher, just the ashes and the odd 20/20 game here and there.

Why do the bowlers get all the credit for a catch? They can't be that good at bowling it if the batter hit it. Yet some guy pulls off some diving catch, and the bowler wheels away like he's won the world cup.
 
I'm not a regular cricket watcher, just the ashes and the odd 20/20 game here and there.

Why do the bowlers get all the credit for a catch? They can't be that good at bowling it if the batter hit it. Yet some guy pulls off some diving catch, and the bowler wheels away like he's won the world cup.
Probably you're thinking of it more like baseball. It's not just about making them miss the ball in cricket. There are numerous dismissals and they can all be planned for. Including the batsman hitting it at a fielder, who after all has been placed there for a reason. It's all the same result - out. Kinda like a footballer wheeling away after scoring from 2 yards really.
 
Probably you're thinking of it more like baseball. It's not just about making them miss the ball in cricket. There are numerous dismissals and they can all be planned for. Including the batsman hitting it at a fielder, who after all has been placed there for a reason. It's all the same result - out. Kinda like a footballer wheeling away after scoring from 2 yards really.
It's more like the person who assisted the goal with a 2 yard sideways pass getting the plaudits rather the guy who belted it top corner from 35 yards.

And if the batters were any good, they'd just hit it away from the fielders.
 
What on earth is going on with the catching this series? It feels too casual. Do they even practice this?

Yeah we have been lackadaisical and can see these two making us pay. Yet another good position is being thrown away again
 
England are letting Australia get on top here. Need to break this partnership quickly. If only they'd had chances to do so...
 
I'm not a regular cricket watcher, just the ashes and the odd 20/20 game here and there.

Why do the bowlers get all the credit for a catch? They can't be that good at bowling it if the batter hit it. Yet some guy pulls off some diving catch, and the bowler wheels away like he's won the world cup.

Because it's a battle between the batsman and the bowler. Anyone can become a decent fielder, not everyone can become a decent bowler.
 
I'm not a regular cricket watcher, just the ashes and the odd 20/20 game here and there.

Why do the bowlers get all the credit for a catch? They can't be that good at bowling it if the batter hit it. Yet some guy pulls off some diving catch, and the bowler wheels away like he's won the world cup.

A lot of the times the catch has only been offered up to the fielder because of how the ball has been bowled in the first place. So the bowler will bowl to a certain place to force the batsman to hit the ball to a certain place where a fielder is... or he's bowled one that's been mis-judged/mis-hit by the batsman and so looped up in the air for a catch.

Obviously sometimes it's down to the catcher for producing a brilliant bit of fielding - and in those instances you usually have the commentators giving the catcher all the credit and the team will congratulate just them. (even though on the scorecard it still counts as a bowlers wicket).
 
I'm not a regular cricket watcher, just the ashes and the odd 20/20 game here and there.

Why do the bowlers get all the credit for a catch? They can't be that good at bowling it if the batter hit it. Yet some guy pulls off some diving catch, and the bowler wheels away like he's won the world cup.

It depends on the ball and the catch. If it's a good ball that leads to a simple catch, the bowler gets most of the credit. If it's a bad ball that leads to a good catch, then the fielder gets most of the credit.

More often that not, it's a case of it being the former.
 
It's more like the person who assisted the goal with a 2 yard sideways pass getting the plaudits rather the guy who belted it top corner from 35 yards.

And if the batters were any good, they'd just hit it away from the fielders.
True, if it's a bad ball and the fielder takes a wonder catch. Most of the time they're not. Most of the time it's bowling to a plan and a regulation, ordinary catch. Not much to credit a fielder for there.

I think the batsman are generally trying to do that. Harder than it looks. Miss it by half an inch off the middle of the bat for a ball that hits a pitch at 85-90mph and can do something unpredictable and that can be enough to find a fielder. There isn't that much margin for error.
 
Head plays identical to Warner but with the advantage of not having to face a brand new ball