English cricket 2015 - NZ, The Ashes, Pak and SA

I was on the verge of posting that for such a good fielder he's had a really ordinary series and then he goes and does that. :lol:
 
That was outrageous from Maxwell...did it so coolly as if it was in slow motion, pre planned.
 
Does anyone know what the actual laws are regarding that catch?

I thought once you stepped out of bounds, you had to take another step in bounds before catching the ball again otherwise it was deemed to be a 6?
Obviously Maxwell's not done that there, so have they changed the laws? I've got no problem with that being a fair catch, but yeah.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Does anyone know what the actual laws are regarding that catch?

I thought once you stepped out of bounds, you had to take another step in bounds before catching the ball again otherwise it was deemed to be a 6?
Obviously Maxwell's not done that there, so have they changed the laws? I've got no problem with that being a fair catch, but yeah.
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Never knew that has been the law, there was a catch by Yorkshire where Finch palmed it into a teammate which makes it impossible to take another step so I'm certain that law has been changed. Sounds like a rubbish law anyway. I've always thought as long as you aren't in contact with the ball whilst over the rope with your feet it's all fair gain in terms of catching it back within the boundaries.

EDIT: New rules concern first contact being within the field of play apparently which makes sense.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Never knew that has been the law, there was a catch by Yorkshire where Finch palmed it into a teammate which makes it impossible to take another step so I'm certain that law has been changed. Sounds like a rubbish law anyway. I've always thought as long as you aren't in contact with the ball whilst over the rope with your feet it's all fair gain in terms of catching it back within the boundaries.

EDIT: New rules concern first contact being within the field of play apparently which makes sense.
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http://www.lords.org/mcc/laws-of-cr...3-explained/law-19-changes-boundaries/#reason

The example they give at the bottom of the Steve Smith catch is very similar to this one and they state it should have been given out.

So yeah, you're right, as long as you catch it (or make contact with the ball) first before stepping out of bounds you can re-catch the ball without having to re-enter play. You can't, however, catch it in the air outside of the ropes and throw it back in to play. As you say makes sense.
 
England had a blip today but regardless I don't think that batting line up is quite right.

Imo:

Roy, Ali, Taylor, Root, Morgan, Stokes, Buttler has a better balance to it and I'd even be tempted to bat Stokes at 3 and tell him to just go out and smash it, if he comes off great, if not then there's the depth to cover him.
 
England squads for the tour of UAE:

Test squad
Alastair Cook (Essex) captain
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
James Anderson (Lancashire)
Zafar Ansari (Surrey)
Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Ian Bell (Warwickshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Steven Finn (Middlesex)
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
Liam Plunkett (Yorkshire)
Adil Rashid (Yorkshire)
Joe Root (Yorkshire)
Ben Stokes (Durham)
James Taylor (Nottinghamshire)
Mark Wood (Durham)

One-Day International squad
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) captain
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Sam Billings (Kent)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Steven Finn (Middlesex)
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
Adil Rashid (Yorkshire)
Joe Root (Yorkshire)
Jason Roy (Surrey)
James Taylor (Nottinghamshire)
Reece Topley (Essex)
David Willey (Northamptonshire)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)
Mark Wood (Durham)

T20 International Squad
Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) captain
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
Sam Billings (Kent)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire)
Chris Jordan (Sussex)
Stephen Parry (Lancashire)
Adil Rashid (Yorkshire)
Joe Root (Yorkshire)
Jason Roy (Surrey)
Reece Topley (Essex)
James Vince (Hampshire)
David Willey (Northamptonshire)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)
Mark Wood (Durham)

Pakistan v England in UAE 2015 – tour itinerary:
30 September England team arrive
5-6 October Two-day game vs Pakistan A Sharjah CC
8-9 October Two-day game vs Pakistan A Sharjah CC
13-17 October 1st Test ZCS, Abu Dhabi
22-26 October 2nd Test Dubai Cricket Stadium
1-5 November 3rd Test Sharjah CC
8 November One-day practice match ZCS, Abu Dhabi
11 November 1st ODI D/N ZCS, Abu Dhabi
13 November 2nd ODI D/N ZCS, Abu Dhabi
17 November 3rd ODI D/N Sharjah CC
20 November 4th ODI D/N Dubai Cricket Stadium
23 November T20 v UAE XI (f) ZCS, Abu Dhabi
26 November 1st IT20 (f) Dubai Cricket Stadium
27 November 2nd IT20 (f) Dubai Cricket Stadium
30 November 3rd IT20 (f) Sharjah CC
1 December England depart UAE
 
Moeen Ali opening in the warm-up in UAE. Think England are missing a trick here. Why not give Hales a proper go? Ali won't be an opener in South Africa anyway. Sensible thing would be to give Hales two full series' at the top of the order.
 
Samid said:
Moeen Ali opening in the warm-up in UAE. Think England are missing a trick here. Why not give Hales a proper go? Ali won't be an opener in South Africa anyway. Sensible thing would be to give Hales two full series' at the top of the order.
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Caus he looked like he couldn't hit a beachball against Aus.

Different game, admittedly, but I don't think he's in the best knick.
 
Samid said:
Moeen Ali opening in the warm-up in UAE. Think England are missing a trick here. Why not give Hales a proper go? Ali won't be an opener in South Africa anyway. Sensible thing would be to give Hales two full series' at the top of the order.
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Have to play with 2 spinners in the UAE, to much work for the fast bowlers otherwise. Jos Butler form is a worry next to no runs vs Australia and only 1 run today, on the flip side looks like Rashid has taken his chance with the bat 51 NO
 
Ali
Cook
Bell
Rooooooooot
Bairtstow
Stokes
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Wood
Anderson

Will probably be it. Good side imo, 4 pace options, 2 spin options (and Root) batting down to 8 (and Broad and Wood aren't mugs either).
 
Been ages since I saw Pakistan play test cricket on TV. Can't wait for the series :drool:
 
NinjaFletch said:
Caus he looked like he couldn't hit a beachball against Aus.

Different game, admittedly, but I don't think he's in the best knick.
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Why is he in the squad then if he's not in good enough form to be given a go? If you pick a specialist opener you should be using him over a "part timer". This horses for courses approach won't help England in the long run. Having one opener here, a different opener in SA and god knows who after that.



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Have to play with 2 spinners in the UAE, to much work for the fast bowlers otherwise.
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There are several ways of playing two spinners without having to open with Ali. Drop Bairstow and play Ali in the middle order. Or cut out one of the seamers. You really don't need four (!) seamers on these slow dead wickets where the spinners will be doing over half the business.

What's the reasoning for opening with Ali anyway? Plays spin well? These two warm-ups have showed that you need skills and technique to survive the new ball before even worrying about the spin.
 
Samid said:
Why is he in the squad then if he's not in good enough form to be given a go? If you pick a specialist opener you should be using him over a "part timer". This horses for courses approach won't help England in the long run. Having one opener here, a different opener in SA and god knows who after that.
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Who's the specialist opener? Unsure whether you mean Hales, or not. If so, Hales doesn't open in first class cricket.
 
Buttler should be dropped, Bairstow as WK, Ali up to 7. Problem is there is no standout opener in England, Hales bats 3 for Notts and looked poor vs. Australia. Stokes in the side might be overkill too with 2 spinners so I would like to see Taylor in at 5/6 to firm up the batting too. Huge winter for Bell.

EDIT: Hales doesn't bat 3 but either way he's not good enough to open in tests IMO, can see why Bayliss would take him to get more of a look at him though.
 
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I didn't know they'd given him a go opening. That said, a few matches don't make him a specialist opener.
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He has opened in every game he has played since the end of June. He is still a more natural opener than Ali. And if England don't consider him a specialist opener then they've got to ask themselves why they're touring with Cook as their only specialist opener.
 
Samid said:
He has opened in every game he has played since the end of June. He is still a more natural opener than Ali. And if England don't consider him a specialist opener then they've got to ask themselves why they're touring with Cook as their only specialist opener.
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Which is not that many.

The answer to your second question is that we don't have any good ones.
 
Nick Compton shouldn't have got dropped but it's just not England to do a volte-face like that.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
The answer to your second question is that we don't have any good ones.
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Then surely now is the time to create one? We know for certain that Ali won't be opening in SA because he can't play the short ball. Then why go for these short term solutions? Robson vs Ind, Trott in WI, Lyth vs NZ/Aus, Ali vs Pak and most likely Hales in SA. That's almost a new opener every series.

Just pick a guy, give him confidence and stick with him.
 
Samid said:
Then surely now is the time to create one? We know for certain that Ali won't be opening in SA because he can't play the short ball. Then why go for these short term solutions? Robson vs Ind, Trott in WI, Lyth vs NZ/Aus, Ali vs Pak and most likely Hales in SA. That's almost a new opener every series.

Just pick a guy, give him confidence and stick with him.
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I agree. Compton shouldn't have been dropped.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Buttler should be dropped, Bairstow as WK, Ali up to 7. Problem is there is no standout opener in England, Hales bats 3 for Notts and looked poor vs. Australia. Stokes in the side might be overkill too with 2 spinners so I would like to see Taylor in at 5/6 to firm up the batting too. Huge winter for Bell.

EDIT: Hales doesn't bat 3 but either way he's not good enough to open in tests IMO, can see why Bayliss would take him to get more of a look at him though.
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Hale does bat 3 though. Or at least he did, of his 1000 runs the majority came at 3 in April. He only opened, belatedly, when it was clear that he'd get a shot in the England team as an opener sooner or later because they've already burnt through the other options.

Samid said:
Then surely now is the time to create one? We know for certain that Ali won't be opening in SA because he can't play the short ball. Then why go for these short term solutions? Robson vs Ind, Trott in WI, Lyth vs NZ/Aus, Ali vs Pak and most likely Hales in SA. That's almost a new opener every series.

Just pick a guy, give him confidence and stick with him.
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I don't think thats why Ali won't make a good opener, he spent most of the summer having Johnson and Starc try and knock his head off and coped fine, yes he looked awkward at times, but he was ok. He won't make it as an opener because he's too loose, he plays and misses more than anyone, he drives too frequently and he drives without footwork at times. The second the ball moves or is angled across him he looks a candidate to nick off.
 
Pakistan 51/1. Should have been 2 but Bell dropped Hafeez when he was on 7 (now on 28).
 
Younis now Pakistan's leading test run scorer. Fantastic achievement.

Looks like it's a very flat pitch. Hopefully we can get 500 odd.
 
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