Frottage is quite the twat.
England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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Frottage is quite the twat.
Dear god
It's a genuine question - Can't you respond rather than laugh? I'm here to learn and have my opinion changed
Explain why it's so outrageous? I'm not trying to be controversial, I've clearly come into the conversation too late to have an informed opinion which is why I didn't state my opinion as fact and would like to hear why that's not the case
There have been pockets of Asian people fighting back but it's inaccurate to frame it as 'two sides rioting against each other', when only one group of people are fighting with police, burning cars, looting shops, setting Hotels on fire, destroying mosques, burning police stations and libraries etc.
He says he's got a son who turns two soon. I feel sorry for that wee kid.
Depends on their colour. Are they purple or green? I have heard reports online from someone who said this whole incident started when the silver guy hit him back, so maybe that's it?
That's the video I saw (Which I don't understand why it pops up on my timeline as I only really follow anybody football related) but hey ho!
That's more than a pocket of people, for the record I feel incline to point out I'm not racist in any sense, I don't condone any violence.
He's as stupid as Matt Letessier.
A lot of people here on a forum, rather than debate with someone who points out he's genuinely looking to learn and debate take an opportunity to try and be funny and post silly rhetorics or dismissive attitudes, I don't understand it, what do you win?
I loved that show as a kid.
I have seen that video, but no-one in that video is rioting. It looks intimidating but that's probably what they're going for but no-one in that video is doing anything other than march and chant. It's why I said pockets, because within that group I saw videos of a smaller group, away from this bigger group, beating up a white man, which is obviously disgusting and hopefully those blokes get identified and arrested.
I just objected to your framing of the situation. This isn't two sides rioting against each other.
The funny/sad part, those donkeys rioting paid for his holiday with their donations so he can chill on the beach while they will end up in prison.
Hopefully we’ve seen the worst of it now.
There were a few things going around last night of planned riots (sorry peaceful marches by upstanding citizens) for today in Manchester, hopefully not though and not seen anything since.
There were a few things going around last night of planned riots (sorry peaceful marches by upstanding citizens) for today in Manchester, hopefully not though and not seen anything since.
I, or anyone else, wouldn't win anything debating with you anyway because you consistently pretend you haven't already made your mind up. There's never any honesty. Hell, you came in guns blazing, said that you were merely asking questions and haven't got an opinion yet, and your very next post was a single tweet that apparently backs your opinion despite it being in the face of hundreds (and hundreds) of videos and pictures that show otherwise.
So what do I get out of it? I get to practice my typing.
Yeah that's Bolton. Barristers is a decent pub. Quite a lot of Asians took to the streets there, not least because on previous days mosques have been attacked and Asian houses and businesses smashed up elsewhere. There's bound to be a reaction when communities are threatened by marauding mobs. It's worth remembering that Bolton is one of maybe 10 or more cities and towns that saw rioting yesterday, and several more that saw rioting the day before that. Bolton is the only one which had a large Asian response and so is the one that is gathering the most impressions on X. It's worth reporting, sure, but focussing on that gives a distorted picture of the current reality.
The vast majority of the fighting, looting, burning and destruction is being perpetrated by anti-immigrant thugs.
It's not genuine, it's disingenuous.
Sometimes questions like that seem suspicious.
If you really don't know what's going on, read the thread, guage the atmosphere.
A few pics on Twitter cannot be trusted. And if the reality is that people if colour are in their homes frightened, then questions like yours can be a dangerous skewing of the narrative.
Read the last 30 pages.
I mean context like always I suppose is key.
These riots started following some misinformation regarding the murdered young girls who the far-right claimed was murdered by an asylum seeker Muslim that had come over by boat, this was quickly refuted as it turns out the perpetrator was born here and very likely not a Muslim. It didn't stop the far-right from organising nation-wide 'protests' that turned into obscene displays of violence and destruction, attacking police officers, ethnic minorities, destroying property, looting, setting things ablaze (often with people trapped inside), all while shouting Islamophobic slurs and often proudly displaying Nazi gestures.
Its possible the clip you've posted shows a bunch of minorities who felt fed up and defenceless with these thugs attacking them, their homes and businesses and decided to take matters into their own hands. These chaps could easily be a bunch of malevolent thugs up to no good themselves, but you could see how easily the narrative could have been manipulated to portray them as a group of barbarians who decided to terrorise others without provocation which is precisely what your post does. Also consider the source posting it - it's some alt-right cretin from the US posting on the misinformation cesspit that is twitter. If you are as innocently out of the loop as you claim you are, then the post will have succeeded in doing its job - ie. conjuring up an agenda-driven narrative, devoid of context.
Wonder what this lot do when they need a doctor. Most white doctors have either gone into the private sector or buggered off abroad.
Drayton Manor is right on their doorstep. You'd want people visiting there to stay in the town to bring business into the town.
No. It’s white people being openly racist, attacking, threatening and burning places unprovoked. And you may have seen some clips of people trying to defend themselves or scare off anyone who is thinking of trying something.
imagine if a loved one fell 50ft and smashed their head onto concrete and survived, and you had to find a way of communicating with them afterwards.
Find it hard to believe that the only video you saw on twitter was that one you linked when there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, showing the other side.
Then surely it is more about processing the immigrants and letting them move on, rather than them being here in the first place. That is my opinion, not the rioters.
I live near four oaks.
There is no shortage of people visiting Drayton Manor, Sutton Coldfield or surrounding areas for tourism.
It's difficult to understand how you can have lived in the UK (I assume that's the Stevenage that you refer to in your location) and not know what's been happening across the last week. People are laughing and being dismissive because they think you're playing dumb.
If you really have been under a rock all week, there's been an organised, cross England and NI, series of far right riots attacking people and properties that are primarily Muslim, including Mosques, houses and torching hotels with people in them, smashing up towns and businesses and generally terrorising anyone they think isn't suitably racially poor, all supposedly based on the murders in Stockport which were nothing to do with Islam or immigration. Except, of course, the kid who did it is black and therefore, in the minds of the rioters, not British because they're racists.
Furthermore, this comes against a background of many, including politicians, justifying these riots because of immigration.
I'm quite sure some people who are Muslim or minorities (or just not racists) have organised to defend themselves rather than just be terrified. That doesn't make it a "both sides" situation.
Logic doesn't come into it.
Ireland's demographics mean we need immigration for economic growth, but that doesn't matter.
Take one look at the account that posted it. A grifter who posts media with inciteful captions to stir up hate. It’s so fecking easy to spot.
The same thing they do when they fancy a kebab/curry, or need someone to look after their nan in a care home.
But they'd be quick to remind us its only illegal immigration they hold issue with, thats why they feel the need to torch legitimate minority businesses and attack any person of colour they see on the street.
Critical thinking has never been their forte.
That makes sense, thanks
As I said before, I don't have an opinion I was playing devil's advocate due to the fact most here appear to be one side so I've put a question out there @WeePat explained above quite well that it does appear to be only be pockets of coloured people demonstrating violence and the majority appears to be English, that has been enough to show me it clearly is only pockets and the majority of the problems here are from the right wing English lot.
For what it's worth, not everybody is as informed as you and came looking for an internet fight, I never came in all guns blazing at all or posted a video to backup my opinion, I posted that to show why I initially thought it was both sides and was quickly proven wrong, I appreciate most people here just want to argue and won't necessarily change their opinion but I'm not that person.
Strange use of "Consistently" as I tend to stay out of the generals usually.
That makes sense, it's a shame the police aren't doing more to protect them then.
It's not.
Agreed but that's why it's good to respond like WeePat did and inform me, I wasn't coming looking to rile anybody I was genuinely attempting to understand something as all I've really seen of this has been on X which seems to paint a certain pre determined narrative rather than give an objective view.
I totally agree. I believe that is what the Tamworth MP was talking about in parliament last week as well. Emptying the hotel by processing cases.
It's a small pocket of people in the grand scheme of what's going on. In some areas people are coming out in defence of their communities but if the police don't get a handle on the rioting soon it could well escalate into something much bigger as both sides come out onto the streets en masse.
Much of this is down to the police being traditionally soft on protests. The UK is one of the few countries that polices by consent and it's very difficult to apply that philosophy to public order offences. Had the initial protests been nipped in the bud this whole thing would be no more than a footnote in the news.
What do people think we need to do. Do we keep letting people in, or will it have to stop at some point? Does there need to be some sort of vetting service to make sure we are letting genuine refugees in and not criminals. The Tories have let this happen and Labour now have to deal with the mess.
Yes, while it is a discussion forum, you'd be wise to read a bit more about sensitive topics before asking questions from a place of ignorance that could cause offence.
You shouldn't need me to tell you to read a thread before you wade in with potentially offensive comments and help a dangerous narrative get oxygen.
That will only work, if you don't fill it up again. Otherwise it is just a Holiday Inn Processing Centre.
Yeah but Tamworth wants some of that tourism. Again I am talking about what the MP in the video was saying rather than what the rioters want.
There needs to be honest conversations about it. But that will never happen.
"Dear Citizens, it's not the immigrants making your standard of life decrease, .... Surprise ..... it's us!"
It will. They need to get on top of Asylum claims so they can stop using these hotels for processing.
Do yourself a favour and don’t use the For You tab on Twitter. Musk is pumping it full of shite and trying to influence shit in the US and the UK.
It’s a classic right wing grifter move for people like that cnut you posted completely ignore all the racist riots happening and then posting one isolated clip of a minority group responding to provocation and acting like they’re the ones causing disruption. It’s massively disingenuous, disgusting and exactly what Musk wants Twitter to be.