England in India 2021

I think right now we are a bit like the English football team of years past. Great domestic league, plenty of star players and exposed at the national level.
 
Good job management for screwing the balance once again. I hope I am wrong but just cannot see India ever winning an ICC tournament under Kohli and this management.
 
India will be there & there abouts in the world cup . They are figuring things out and nothing wrong in trying stuff now .
 
Too many people are jumping the gun here, India are still favourites for the T20 World Cup IMO. The problem they have is they are spoilt for choice and haven't figured out their best XI.

I mean what is Pandya doing batting at 7 is beyond me
 
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Too many people are jumping the gun here, India are still favourites for the T20 World Cup IMO. The problem they have is they are spoilt for choice and haven't figured out their best XI
India have some amazing individuals but the team balance is missing. No way will they be able to win with pandya as their 5th choice bowler. They need to bring in jadeja and drop a batsmen. Rahul rohit kohli as your top 3 again is not going to give you explosive starts in t20s. Also, not sure if chahal is the answer for being the primary spinner. Too expensive for my liking.
 
I really do think the challenge for all teams is going to be to work out how to win batting first rather than individual questions of the team balance.

Just seems so much easier to time it when a bit of dew starts to settle.
 
Kohli showing what it takes to play high quality bowlers. Amazing batting.
 
One of the great T20 knocks by Kohli this, given the quality of the opposition and the help they've got from the pitch.
 
I think Kohli has more than amended for that Pant error, just grateful we weren’t facing the pair of them!
 
Good recovery thanks to Kohli. Don't think 156 is enough with the batting England have and India only having 5 bowlers.
 
Some bang average bowling by chahal and thakur. Bumrah will replace thakur but India needs to have a better option than chahal. Rcb qouta experiment need to end
 
Looking like another non event this one.

The debate will start again*

*Not won yet, it is England.
 
I think both sides are more suited to chasing a total rather than setting one, and once the Indian top order threw their wickets away so cheaply (not for the first time in this tour), it was always England in control.
 
The margin of error batting first is so small , you really need to play flawless cricket to win after losing the toss. You just have to bat with the aim of getting 180, there really is no point playing slowly in the middle because you will lose with 150 on most days.
 
Too many people are jumping the gun here, India are still favourites for the T20 World Cup IMO. The problem they have is they are spoilt for choice and haven't figured out their best XI.

I mean what is Pandya doing batting at 7 is beyond me


While people are jumping the gun in this thread but there is nothing to suggest India are favs . Yes they are likely to be one of the teams who can win it but I think at the moment there are lots of things they need to clear out about the lineup
 
Difference between this england side and India's is england know their best 11 while India are still struggling to find one. No way are India favourites ahead of England. One can even argue Australia, NZ and WI are equal favourites. We don't have a quality spinner who can bowl economically and take wickets. Chahal can take wickets but is too expensive. Sundar is still learning his trade. In the past we used to have spinners who used to pick wickets and also keep it tight. Jadeja will improve us immensely, but still won't make us favourites.
 
Difference between this england side and India's is england know their best 11 while India are still struggling to find one. No way are India favourites ahead of England. One can even argue Australia, NZ and WI are equal favourites. We don't have a quality spinner who can bowl economically and take wickets. Chahal can take wickets but is too expensive. Sundar is still learning his trade. In the past we used to have spinners who used to pick wickets and also keep it tight. Jadeja will improve us immensely, but still won't make us favourites.
Ashwin? Why isn't he playing?
 
Difference between this england side and India's is england know their best 11 while India are still struggling to find one. No way are India favourites ahead of England. One can even argue Australia, NZ and WI are equal favourites. We don't have a quality spinner who can bowl economically and take wickets. Chahal can take wickets but is too expensive. Sundar is still learning his trade. In the past we used to have spinners who used to pick wickets and also keep it tight. Jadeja will improve us immensely, but still won't make us favourites.

I don't think England know their best XI either to be honest. They don't know what to do with Stokes and I think Malan isn't a good fit either.

India have two guaranteed starters in Jadeja and Bumrah not playing and they are clearly experimenting with Pandya as a 5th bowler, seeing if he copes with the responsibility. Ideally he and Sundar would share the 5th bowler responsibility.
 
Ashwin? Why isn't he playing?
I don't think Kohli is a fan of his fitness. And the last time ashwin was playing limited over formats he was good economically but was not taking wickets. He did well in the last IPL so hopefully this new version of ash does well again this IPL.

But more than Ashwin I would like to see the likes of rahul chahar or Varun Chakraborty getting chances.
 
I don't think Kohli is a fan of his fitness. And the last time ashwin was playing limited over formats he was good economically but was not taking wickets. He did well in the last IPL so hopefully this new version of ash does well again this IPL.

But more than Ashwin I would like to see the likes of rahul chahar or Varun Chakraborty getting chances.

Kuldeep? Why have India given up on him, considering his record is much better than Chahals (economy, average, wickets)
 
I don't think England know their best XI either to be honest. They don't know what to do with Stokes and I think Malan isn't a good fit either.

India have two guaranteed starters in Jadeja and Bumrah not playing and they are clearly experimenting with Pandya as a 5th bowler, seeing if he copes with the responsibility. Ideally he and Sundar would share the 5th bowler responsibility.
I'm starting to feel the same about Malan tbh. Until recently I was all for keeping him in the team but IDK... Feels like all the pieces are in the wrong order at the moment and he's the one that can't move.

If they're going to play Buttler at the top (and I'd still prefer him in the middle order) then a top six of Roy-Buttler-Bairstow-Stokes-Morgan-Billings makes more sense to me.
 
This series needs to have been played during the late , not the nighttime.

Win toss, bowl and chase is too easy.

India has too many players who should not be playing T20. Chahal is a clown who can't field nor bat and hides when he is getting spanked.

India's best xi would be
Kishan, Kohli, Pant (flexible), Shaw (flexible), SKY, KL, Hardik, Jadeja, Chahar/Tewatia, Bhuvi, Bumrah

Lots of hard-hitters around Kohli and if Kohli fails, Shaw or KL play the anchor role.
 
Rumours a pathway for Hales to return to the England side are welcome. Hales on form is as good as anyone in the England side imo.
 
This series needs to have been played during the late , not the nighttime.

Win toss, bowl and chase is too easy.

India has too many players who should not be playing T20. Chahal is a clown who can't field nor bat and hides when he is getting spanked.

India's best xi would be
Kishan, Kohli, Pant (flexible), Shaw (flexible), SKY, KL, Hardik, Jadeja, Chahar/Tewatia, Bhuvi, Bumrah

Lots of hard-hitters around Kohli and if Kohli fails, Shaw or KL play the anchor role.
Kohli will never drop chahal. He is his favorite. Kuldeep, ashwin and other bowlers were dropped for far less. I seriously wish some other spinner starts performing so well that chahal is automatically dropped and is not a guaranteed option.

Tewatia could be a good option as you say. Can bat and bowl. Still feel having 6 bowling options would be better.
 
The fascinating thing about T20 cricket is that it really pushes you to question absolutely everything. Is Kohli India's best bet as captain in T20's? Is Stokes really in England's best balanced XI? Is Malan really good enough even though he came into this series ranked as the best T20I bat in the world? Really stupid questions on the surface that you could actually entertain if you wanted.