Maguire is not shit. He’s been great this season and has mostly been solid for England. I agree Mitchell should have been considered as a proper LB.
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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Maguire is not shit. He’s been great this season and has mostly been solid for England. I agree Mitchell should have been considered as a proper LB.
Maguire has had a very good season and rarely has been poor for England but don’t let the truth get in the way of your agenda
I don't know how you've deduced that when he's just dragged them to a title.
Take him out of the team and Arsenal win the league
I just don't see how he's more important to City than De Bruyne, Haaland, or Rodri. If Foden isn't available, they have KDB to play #10. They have Bernardo and Doku to play on the right. However, if they're missing any of those three, the replacement will be a huge drop in quality. Same goes for Saka at Arsenal.
Squad strength, especially at particular position, has nothing to do with individual player’s ability.
No shit if Reiss Nelson replaces Saka there’s a huge drop in quality.
City would win the title even if one of those three were injured for a whole season.
So odd. I get you can raise an eyebrow at Jones, but we have literally no need for another AM and there are 5 players ahead of him.
I seriously doubt that. Maybe in a year where they don't have a real rival for the title, like 17/18 or 20/21. However, in 21/22, Liverpool were a serious threat to City, and so was Arsenal in the last 2 seasons.
Who will score 30 goals if Haaland is injured? Who will play #6 if Rodri is out? KDB is the most replaceable player out of the three, but that's only because of Foden, Grealish and Bernardo all capable of playing #10 IMO.
He's a good player, when he's fit. He's not fit, hasn't been all season and he probably won't be fit enough to play a positive part at the Euros either. I don't think many players have ever been out injured so long and so close to a tournament and made much of an impact. No way he should be going. Utd also need a better more reliable left back.
The goals would probably be more spread out. Just like they did in 2021/22. Álvarez is no dud either.
Don’t know. They’d probably play Stones as a DM and give more minutes to some of their world class CBs.
Hope we take Watkins and Toney
Maguire great this season? Bloody hell where have our standards gone. He was horrendous last season and has been decent (no more) this season. United and England shouldn't be playing him if they wanna go far. I feel he was so utterly useless that when he doesn't make mistakes, people think he's Maldini.
Joking, right? Right?Yes, but these aren't ideal options for a title charge. They could win the title, but outright claiming they would is different. The two main reasons they won it this year are still Haaland and De Bruyne in my opinion.
Still nothing to do with the comparison between Foden and Saka. It’s not Foden’s fault that Arsenal don’t have a back-up RW.
It's a really strange argument to make comparing two players.
Agree. So if Bernardo Silva and Doku played for Arsenal, Foden would suddenly be the better player?
Completely correct decision to omit Rashford. I’m surprised this decision has been scrutinised so heavily.
Despite some good form for England over the years, he’s not been at it at all this year. Gordon and Foden have been several levels above him this year. Then you’ve got Saka, Palmer, Bowen as other wise options. There’s simply no justification to include him.
I can see the reasoning behind Shaw as there are simply so few options available - could argue Mitchell and Chilwell (by virtue of being more available this season, albeit just) are hard done by but it including Shaw is a much easier decision to make than the Rashford one.
Despite some good form for England over the years, he’s not been at it at all this year. Gordon and Foden have been several levels above him this year. Then you’ve got Saka, Palmer, Bowen as other wise options. There’s simply no justification to include him.
I can see the reasoning behind Shaw as there are simply so few options available - could argue Mitchell and Chilwell (by virtue of being more available this season, albeit just) are hard done by but it including Shaw is a much easier decision to make than the Rashford one.
Yeah. That’s probably the way, with Bellingham being slightly deeper and Fodan closer to a 10.
What did he do?
I understand not taking Rashford due to his poor form but why on earth take Grealish?
Could still be cut if he fails to impress
Mods, is it time to create a 'EURO 2024' separate forum like you did with previous tournaments? All the Euro threads mixing in with the other topics are a bit messy now.
I get that but Southgate said he didn’t pick rashford because of his form this season. Grealish’s form has been worse so he reasoning doesn’t make sense.
Squad looks horrendous for the new 'Golden Generation'. Goalkeepers, defence and midfield all look very thin with little inspiration outside some obvious picks.
If you told me a year ago that Anthony Gordon would be going to the Euros ahead of Rashford I wouldn't have believed you.
Fair play to Gordon for stepping up a ridiculous amount this season. I always thought he just looked like a trier at Everton, was very surprised Chelsea were heavily linked 2 years ago, and then thought he looked like a deer in the headlights for that first 6 months at Newcastle. Turns out there's a reason he was so highly rated at Everton after all.
Having said that he's not the reason Rashy isn't going, there's room for both of them in the squad if he had actually given a shit this season.
Fair play to Gordon for stepping up a ridiculous amount this season. I always thought he just looked like a trier at Everton, was very surprised Chelsea were heavily linked 2 years ago, and then thought he looked like a deer in the headlights for that first 6 months at Newcastle. Turns out there's a reason he was so highly rated at Everton after all.
Having said that he's not the reason Rashy isn't going, there's room for both of them in the squad if he had actually given a shit this season.
Skillset. Graelish is unique among england's wing forward options. With Rashford, Gordon, Eze and Watkins can somewhat replicate what he does. Nobody else can do what Graelish does
The classic crying laughing emojis on he black background, deleted after got a lot a stick.
hoping that this is a shot in the arm for rashford and drives him to perform more consistently.
his poor performances havent really ever had consequences until now. this could make him. of course he could just continue on with his career the way he always has (which is the most likely outcome).
his poor performances havent really ever had consequences until now. this could make him. of course he could just continue on with his career the way he always has (which is the most likely outcome).
Apparently Trippier had to be taken off injured in the 36th minute of Newcastle's pointless post season friendly against Spurs in Australia today, I hope its not too serious.
Ridiculous when you think the season just ended and euros starting soon.
Some reports say that it was a pre-planned sub due to his EURO involvement. Haven’t seen anyone credible say it was an injury.
However if it is, well who knew flying around the world and playing a friendly three days after the season’s finished was a bad idea.
I don't understand why Shaw got a call up. He hasn't played since February. Throwing him into Euros games after not playing for months seems like a terrible idea. Even if Southgate ends up not taking him, we don't even have a LB in the squad.
Surprised by the amount of negativity about the England squad. I think Southgate’s been as daring & progressive possible, and mainly picking players on form. I think the CB’s in particular look much stronger than 12 months ago, I also think CM looks better as well with the emergence of Mainoo & Wharton. There’s some real quality & lots of leaders in the squad, nice balance of youth & experience. The riches in the attacking players is frightening. LB obviously a weakness mind.
For me England are the team to beat this summer, particularly with Kane & Bellingham who’ve been the 2 outstanding players in Europe the past season.
For me England are the team to beat this summer, particularly with Kane & Bellingham who’ve been the 2 outstanding players in Europe the past season.
Can only assume he is hoping that Luke will be able to get fit for the knockout stages of tournament
I agree with most of that and think Southgate has been really daring with his squad. I wouldn't go as far as call England the team to beat because as good as the attacking options are, I don't really see anyone who proved they can do it at the biggest knockout games be it CL or international football. They've all done brilliantly in the league including Kane and Bellingham in Germany and Spain but I am not seeing decisive match winners who have done it at the latter stages of the biggest competitions when the pressure is at its highest and the game are tightest. There is nothing to say they won't step up but the jury is still on until they do. France have got Mbappé and maybe Griezmann too. Giroud has also stepped up in some huge games for France over the years. The Germans are playing at home and you never see a German team go this long doing so badly in international competitions. The Portuguese have a squad as good as England's in my opinion and you can also count on an unfancied team that is very well coached and drilled like Italy and Spain did last Euros. England are good but the attacking options are not Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho so don't merit being considered clear favorites ahead of the competition.
In the PL he is, not in international football he's not
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