Probably Pakistan when the scoreboard pressure is applied on day 5.
England Cricket 2016 - Sri Lanka & Pakistan
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Probably Pakistan when the scoreboard pressure is applied on day 5.
Pakistan have already thrown it away going from 260/2 to 400 all out on an absolute road. Think England will declare with a lead of 300+ and Pakistan will crumble under scoreboard pressure on day 5.
I don't know. I can see England making the same mistake they did in the first innings and getting out trying to force the issue on a slow pitch.
I see that James Anderson again acted like a cnut. Not a surprise.
Useless cnuts.
Get Root early please!
Warne: ' As we can see Yasir is bowling slower and slower as the over goes on'
Graphic being shown shows that the last 3 balls of the over were the quickest.
Graphic being shown shows that the last 3 balls of the over were the quickest.
Pathetic captaincy. Deep point and extra cover for Vince. Get them up catching and tempt the guy to drive.
This is poor from Misbah. In the situation, we should be much more aggressive especially against Vince.
I don't really mind this from Pakistan tbh. No harm in trying their patience and hoping to bore them out. Something's got to give eventually.
And they keep wondering why the over rates are so fecking slow these days.Really daft bowling now. Killing time, just playing for the draw.
Root gone.. will Pakistan go for it now.
God Ramiz is a horrible 'third man'.
Not watching the match but if Pakistan is bowling with a mindset of draw then it's a terrible tactic. They'll probably lose. Anything above 250 is tough in innings 4 irrespective of the pitch.
Yeah Pakistan were bowling to draw a mistake than going straight for the throat - I think that innings yesterday frightened them. England looked content to let them do so (and why not - With a 103 first innings deficit, there's nothing wrong with playing passively), but Root getting out playing the ludicrous, & Vince just being Vince... We COULD be in trouble.
I agree with you, though. 250 on the board for Pakistan to chase in 2.5 sessions tomorrow? That'd do me.
I agree with you, though. 250 on the board for Pakistan to chase in 2.5 sessions tomorrow? That'd do me.
Cook not the kind of guy to declare with 250 on the board.
Pakistan clawing themselves back into the game a bit since they've tightened up their lines.
I don't really mind their tactics to bore teams out but it got ridiculous at one point this afternoon with no intention whatsoever to take a wicket or even get the batsman playing. Are you really going to force a mistake bowling 3 foot our side off with a packed offside field? At least dangle a carrot and give them four through the covers if they're brave enough.
I don't really mind their tactics to bore teams out but it got ridiculous at one point this afternoon with no intention whatsoever to take a wicket or even get the batsman playing. Are you really going to force a mistake bowling 3 foot our side off with a packed offside field? At least dangle a carrot and give them four through the covers if they're brave enough.
With a lead of 200, this game will be a draw unless one of them throw it away in a session, either England this evening or Pakistan facing the new ball and Anderson.
Lead will probably be 260 at the end of the day, and England will need to bat a fair chunk of the morning session to ensure that Pakistan don't have time to chase it down
Lead will probably be 260 at the end of the day, and England will need to bat a fair chunk of the morning session to ensure that Pakistan don't have time to chase it down
Ok. Lead will likely be closer to 300 at the close.
Imagine England will bat at least an hour in the morning - still fancy the draw
Imagine England will bat at least an hour in the morning - still fancy the draw
Misbah getting what he deserves for some appalling captaincy in the first two sessions today. Had the opposition on the back foot with two wickets for nothing but threw it away with negative bowling. The first time a seamer bowled a ball that would have actually hit the stumps today came when the second new ball was taken in the 83rd over, says it all. Real waste of energy and the bowlers are paying for it now.
England will win. Pakistan batting will not cope up with the pressure imo. Expecting Stuart Broad to conjure one of his God mode spells.
Very close game would make England slight favourites atm
Nah, draw will be huge favourite
Then England, a Pakistan win being the long shot
Ok, draw isn't as big a favourite as I thought
England 11/8
Draw 4/7
Pakistan 25/1
These two playing very well. Moeen Ali has had a great test with the bat.
Put them straight in tomorrow, please. Or just swing like nutters for 30 mins and really kill their morale.
Put them straight in tomorrow, please. Or just swing like nutters for 30 mins and really kill their morale.
I'm telling you man, you are severely underrating the pressure of batting 4th on a pitch where you've to save the test match.
Not at all
But with a lead of 300, England will want at approx another 50 tomorrow morning
Which will leave them 80 overs to bowl out Pakistan, on a road, it will be pressure that causes anything other than an draw, but the draw is still the most likely result
If Pakistan saves this test match then they have done brilliantly.
Pakistan's best best tomorrow might be a bit of old fashioned declaration bowling.
Whatever England set it's probably gettable on this pitch and it's possibly better to bowl some filth and approach a 350 odd target with the mindset that it can be chased rather than simply trying to survive.
I don't think the pitch will get a whole lot worse and I don't think there'll be much init for our bowlers tomorrow. The battle will be won or lost between the ears.
Whatever England set it's probably gettable on this pitch and it's possibly better to bowl some filth and approach a 350 odd target with the mindset that it can be chased rather than simply trying to survive.
I don't think the pitch will get a whole lot worse and I don't think there'll be much init for our bowlers tomorrow. The battle will be won or lost between the ears.
Draw imo.
England get only one go with the new ball.
England get only one go with the new ball.
Barring a collapse, which is possible with us, this should be a draw.
Pakistan aren't winning anything. England should declare overnight and go all in trying to secure a series lead tomorrow.
Not going to happen
They will bat the Pakistan win out of the possibility, bat until you can't lose and then see what happens
350+ with 80 overs left in the day will be about the declaration
Boycotts a little hypocrite isn't he? Complaining that England should have gone harder at it tonight so they wouldn't have to bat tomorrow.
Let's remember that the game was in the balance today, now who would be the first to criticise England for forcing the issue and losing wickets if they'd done that I wonder ?
Let's remember that the game was in the balance today, now who would be the first to criticise England for forcing the issue and losing wickets if they'd done that I wonder ?
I agree that will happen, I just don't think it should. I know it's a bit of a cliche at this point, but the great Australian team would've attacked more with the bat tonight, and possibly even put them in this evening.
As ever with comparisons to the great Australian team, it's a useless comparison when they had Shane Warne to bowl with on a final day and England have Moeen Ali.
I think England should declare overnight as well as I can't see Pakistan chasing the score down. If they do decide to bat, they shouldn't bat anymore than half an hour though.
I think England should declare overnight as well as I can't see Pakistan chasing the score down. If they do decide to bat, they shouldn't bat anymore than half an hour though.
It's a nothing pitch, no spin, no swing, very slow. Scoreboard pressure aside, Pakistan should not be losing 10 wickets in a day. England should bat 18 overs, give themselves 70 to go at Pakistan, no point grinding the bowlers into the ground.
