I feel the same. They're making solid signings but I thought they'd get in at least one marquee player to really improve their team with them being in the champions league. Moreno is the only one who's really going to make a difference to their starting XI.
Emre Can| Signed for 'Pool
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Signing for the sake of squad's depth. May be useful at times.
We had each of the players above missing for multiple games and coped fine without them (the exception being Henderson). We had Gerrard and Sturridge out at the same time and still put in impressive performances. In what world is Lucas pivotal for us?
I read on another forum that Liverpool have supposedly got one over on us, because we wanted him, but Can snubbed United for Liverpool.
I genuinely can't remember ever seeing any link between United and Can.
I genuinely can't remember ever seeing any link between United and Can.
No you don't. Otherwise you'd post the links. You post your own pseudo ITK shite. Not really sure why you're blatantly lying.I only summarise Liverpool Echo articles and post Times articles.
You know it's made up. Every transfer that went to Liverpool ever 'snubbed' United. Get with the program.
Show me one thing I've posted that is pseudo itk nonsense.
Don't know if it's been asked already but Can he not let it slip on a cold, rainy night at Stoke? 
His name isn't pronounced the same as can.
Yeah but its nice/easy to type shite up as "can"
Potentially a very good investment
Pointless signing by Pool.
I've never seen him play, I imagine he could be a more physical and agile version of Lucas, but with good dribbling, so it's an improvement on the 4th choice deeper lying centre mid.
#Progress innit.
#Progress innit.
Well, Steffen Freund described him as the most complete player he had ever seen. Can is a good player - good engine, good under pressure, suitable physique for the Premier League, comfortable passer and dribbler, and is pretty good at tackling. He's still obviously raw, that was evident in his first year in the Champions League, where he looked uncomfortable. But he's got the right attributes to improve and become a very good player IMO. Liverpool have done well to improve two positions that they needed alternatives for.
Let's see whether Liverpool will give Can the match time to develop. He's only had 1 full season of first-team football, so far (not counting his Bayern Munich II stint). He'll need match time to refine his game and realise his potential. Liverpool can offer him this, but with them in the Champions League and hoping to fight for the league, will Can get a good amount of match time?
It would have been better for Liverpool to let him play 1 more season with Leverkusen to see how he does. For me, they signed Can too soon.
Not a signing you can laugh at but, not a signing that will make rivals worried. Low risk, high reward type move for Liverpool. Worst case he provides depth at several positions best case he lives up to the early hype he received and turns into one of the best midfielders in England.
A lot of people underestimate just how strenuous CL football is. It's more than just another fixture every odd Tuesday. The mere act of traveling away fatigues a player, not to mention the intensity of a weekday CL fixture.
You had key players out injured, sure, but it was when your team was well rested, against teams that had played a match thousands of miles away from home just 3 days ago. Don't get me wrong, I want Liverpool back in mid table next season. But they've just climbed out of United's shadow, where they spent the last 20 years. When you're in this position, you want to make it last. And underestimating how daunting a few extra fixtures can be is a really shoddy way of doing that.
Put simply, Liverpool is the exact same team they were last year. And that's not good for you.
Fjortoft says he's average, is this true? Can't say I've seen much of him to have an opinion.
Exact same team with Mata, Fellaini and van Gaal.
Mata and Fellaini?
He was saying that Liverpool had the exact same team than last year and it wasn't a good thing for them.
And you responded that United too, right ?
By "last year" he meant 13/14 didn't he? I thought his point was that Liverpool need a better squad as CL football with drain current squad. I was pointing out that United's squad is still the same as no new signings yet as it's still June.
Their team last year was on par with the best in the league so adding depth is all they should need to challenge again, providing individual performance is maintained or improved upon. The only obvious first team improvement is in defence which should allow them to become more consistent. There's not much that can go wrong with this transfer - either he succeeds and they've made a good addition for relatively cheap or he fails and Liverpool recoup much of the original fee. More depth with plenty of room for improvement due to age and at a reasonable price can't be frowned upon.
He did, but that was 2011 when he was still 17. Meanwhile he hasn't managed to develop as good as expected, although he doesn't get tired telling others how good he is.
I'd agree with Fjortoft. I don't think he'll be a starter at a top club although he has the physical build to do well in the PL. Liverpool might work for him.
Maybe his pretentious way, expecting more starting line-ups in his first year training with the first team, didn't help him in Munich. Some of the young guns want all the fame but don't put in the hard work first. I'd call it the casting-show-phenomena.
Otherwise he definitely has talent. But will he waste it like so many others before him?
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How does that in any way invalidate what I just said?
It's still the first week of June and we have nearly 12 more weeks to do business!
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I obviously mean so far.
Indeed, so why are you seemingly drawing (negative) conclusions about the strength of Liverpool's squad going into next season. Your post is premature in its assessment. Time will tell whether Liverpool's business is good or not.
I'm not sure if you're serious right now, or if you're just messing with me.
I never once spoke in the past tense. I never once said Liverpool were done with their transfers or that the transfers they've made are objectively bad. And I even mentioned Liverpool have a good squad, so even if these are all the transfers they make - I still think they're not automatically out of the title race.
All, and let me underline this, all I've said is that thus far, the transfers they've made aren't befitting of a team trying to perform well domestically and in the CL.
Fair enough but...
...is an odd thing to say in June even if you're talking "so far". It's not really worth commenting on yet, is it?
Maybe I worded that wrong.
If Liverpool don't make any transfers different from the ones they're making so far, they'll be the exact same team they were last year. And that's not good for you.
If.
Reality is that Liverpool have another £40m to play with at least. Upgrades are on the way, I expect.
We didn't make any significant signings last summer, or even in January, yet we still managed to go from 7th to 2nd in one season. Thing is, we could well make a couple of really good additions to the squad in the next 2 or 3 months & still fail to surpass what we achieved last season in the league. Bringing in new players doesn't automatically ensure that a side will automatically improve, regardless of how good that player is, or how many extra games a side plays over a season.
But that is just wrong. It's exactly what we're doing. Padding the squad to be able to cope with more games.
What we haven't done so far is make signings that could raise the level of the team.
I agree that the signings have been good ones so far for Liverpool. But in my opinion, that's all they do, make the squad able to cope with it, rather than push on to succeed.
I'm aware that many on the Caf oppose football statistics but the rest might be interested in what www.statsbomb.com compiled on Emre Can:
http://www.statsbomb.com/2014/06/transfer-dossier-welcome-to-anfield-emre-can/
Radar for CM/DM position:
Stats in tabular format for LB position:
http://www.statsbomb.com/2014/06/transfer-dossier-welcome-to-anfield-emre-can/
Radar for CM/DM position:
Stats in tabular format for LB position:
Given the shower of shite we have in midfield and the fact we have yet to strengthen I am not ready to mock this signing, maybe he is as awful as some here think, but I thought they'd wasted their money on Henderson as well and he's excelled there.
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