Emre Can| Signed for 'Pool

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Ballache said:
He was very highly rated in Germany and at Bayern. Still think he might reach his potential.
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he emerged in 2011 at the u17 WC. He played a great tourney and everybody thought that he´ll be "the next big thing". After that it got quite around him. In the 11/12 campaign he was closely observe by the bayern coaching-staff and they tried to introduce him to first team football, but he never showed the necessary quality. In 12/13 he got a professional contract and the management stopped using him in the second squad (4th league). They had the intention to give him some time on the pitch but he ended with only 6 appearances. At this point Bayern decided, that he wont play any role in the near future.
Leverkusen bought him for about €6m (which is quite a lot for a player with almost no first team experience) and gave him a 4 year contract. He played pretty average this season. Not terrible, but nothing spectacular either. Why should leverkusen sell a young prospect, if they are satisfied with his performance? His contract runs for 3 more years and he is surely on a small wage. Bayern has a buy-back clause, but I highly doubt, that Emre Can has a general release clause in his contract.

Considering all this the expectation in this thread are way off the limit. He is not that special.
 
PedroMendez said:
he emerged in 2011 at the u17 WC. He played a great tourney and everybody thought that he´ll be "the next big thing". After that it got quite around him. In the 11/12 campaign he was closely observe by the bayern coaching-staff and they tried to introduce him to first team football, but he never showed the necessary quality. In 12/13 he got a professional contract and the management stopped using him in the second squad (4th league). They had the intention to give him some time on the pitch but he ended with only 6 appearances. At this point Bayern decided, that he wont play any role in the near future.
Leverkusen bought him for about €6m (which is quite a lot for a player with almost no first team experience) and gave him a 4 year contract. He played pretty average this season. Not terrible, but nothing spectacular either. Why should leverkusen sell a young prospect, if they are satisfied with his performance? His contract runs for 3 more years and he is surely on a small wage. Bayern has a buy-back clause, but I highly doubt, that Emre Can has a general release clause in his contract.

Considering all this the expectation in this thread are way off the limit. He is not that special.
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For a youngster in a team he really had a good season. You cannot expect a more defensive young player to be a world beater in his first season as a professional. You just need to give him time. He was a regular starting player - started in 29 matches (one he was booked, 3 others were the first of the season) and was subbed in 3 other times. And only got substituted 4 times. And played in all but 1 CL match (booked)

But - what might have caused that Bayern sold him and did not loan him could have been his attitude. Already a "star" with 19. Not the humble kind of player and just so different in his personality to e.g. a Höjbjerg or the other Bayern youngsters that have made it.
 
He’s most comfortable in an anchoring midfield role, but Can played ten matches at left-back, two in central defence, and even one game as a wide left forward.
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I was almost going to comment on this as being such an odd thing to say. That he can only play ten matches as left back, two in CM and so on.
Just goes to show, skim reading can easily cause you to miss interpret a sentence.
 
Wasn't he the left back for Leverkusen when we beat them 5-0?. Safe to say he shouldn't be counted as a LB.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Wasn't he the left back for Leverkusen when we beat them 5-0?. Safe to say he shouldn't be counted as a LB.
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He's a 'versatile' player, aka jack of trades master of none. There is definitely potential there, but it's far too raw and donkey-like to be splurging £12m for.
 
Not exactly along the lines of the "quality not quantity" that Brenton was bleating about the other day. Could be another Summer of low-level mid price signings for Liverpool that do nothing to improve the first team.
 
He's still a kid, isn't he? Would probably be a decent signing for Liverpool. I wouldn't play him left-back though, Valencia had a field day against him if I remember correctly. Valencia!
 
Its of no relevance what so ever, but he is always one of my first buys on FM.

He never turns into a world beater, but you get a good solid DLP for ten years for not much money.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Wasn't he the left back for Leverkusen when we beat them 5-0?. Safe to say he shouldn't be counted as a LB.
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:lol: Valencia had a field day against him. He got horrible exposed in that match.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Potential that good?
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Potential so good that Bayern sold him off without batting an eye lid, and get's played out of position even at Leverkusen. Sure he's the new Gerrard. :D
 
I doubt that this is true because it contradicts the confirmed clause with bayern. Bayern is allowed to re-sign him for ~10m (Real Madrid did the same with Leverkusen+Cavajal). Adding another general release clause, would be really weird, because it creates a messy legal situation. Furthermore: why should leverkusen allow him such a general clause?
Maybe you are right and both exists and maybe Liverpool can buy him. He is still nothing like Gerrard and never will be. He is a different type of player.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Potential so good that Bayern sold him off without batting an eye lid, and get's played out of position even at Leverkusen. Sure he's the new Gerrard. :D
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They DID bat an eye lid. That buy back clause was a guaranteed Bayern would nor miss out if he fulfilled his potential.

And at Leverursen he isn't really being played out of position. This is a player who is comfortable in defence and in midfield.
 
All squads need versatile players like this guy, we had O'Shea filling gaps for years, now Jones is a bit of a jack of all trades. Liverpool don't have that versatile player.
 
Tony Barrett: Liverpool have made a breakthrough in their pursuit of Emre Can & appear to be closing in on a £12m deal for the Germany U-21 international.
 
BarneyLFC said:
Tony Barrett: Liverpool have made a breakthrough in their pursuit of Emre Can & appear to be closing in on a £12m deal for the Germany U-21 international.
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:nervous: I hope not, he didn't look great against us but if he's good enough that Bayern want him back that's me convinced.
 
precaution. Such a clause is pretty cheap compared to the possible gain. He is not the kind of player that Guardiola would fancy but you never know what happens in 2-3 years.
I think Emre´s future is pretty uncertain. He could become a good player or he could flop completely (and everything in between). 12m for him is not a bargain.
 
Hes kind of a middle of the road signing. Don't think he'll be that exceptional.
 
Emre Can is still a young player who's only had 1 full season with Bayer Leverkusen. He has some good ability in him. It just needs to be refined. Plus, he needs to improve his ability to read the game and position himself better, especially in midfield. His on-the-ball technique and passing is good for a central midfielder, but his decision-making and ability to read the game is poor, and that's expected from a central midfielder who's only had 1 full season in central midfield with very few appearances in the first team before that.

If he decides to stay with Leverkusen and develop his game, more, he can become a good player. If Liverpool get him at this stage, Can's development may stall as he's surely not ready to play for a team playing in the Champions League and wanting to challenge for trophies, yet.
 
PedroMendez said:
bayern doesnt want him back :lol:
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:lol: at Liverpool signing a player who isn't better than Schweinsteiger, Thiago, Martinez, Alaba nad Kroos.

But seriously, it says nothing.
 
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SammyUnited_83 said:
Seems Liverpool bound:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ayer-Leverkusen-release-clause-activated.html

Any good? Not sure why we aren't interested at that price, surely an upgrade on Cleverly / Anderson / Fletcher.
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You ask if he's any good, question why we aren't interested at that price, and then state he must be an upgrade on other players we already have.

So, without knowing how good he is you reckon we should be in for him because he has to be better than Fletcher or Cleverley. How could you possibly know that if you've no idea how good he is?

Honestly, the transfer forum is a clusterfeck at times.
 
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He's not very good, in my opinion. Like a clumsy (clumsier?) Khedira. Very loose passer too.
 
Speak said:
He's not very good, in my opinion. Like a clumsy (clumsier?) Khedira. Very loose passer too.
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From what I've seen of him, I'd agree with him possessing those flaws. I think he has the potential to improve, but I can't see him excelling into a very good footballer. Perhaps a reasonable squad player for them though, as he looks capable of playing in a few positions. Like a more handsome Phil Jones, minus the status of being the greatest human being.

That said, I don't think he'll want to be a squad player. He could have done that for Bayern, whilst raking in plenty of medals.
 
Speak said:
He's not very good, in my opinion. Like a clumsy (clumsier?) Khedira. Very loose passer too.
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Very good comparison, actually. :lol:
Liverpool are not threatening at all with their business thus far. You think they'd negate signing a few donkeys in order to splash big on a centre back or an actual defensive midfielder.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
From what I've seen of him, I'd agree with him possessing those flaws. I think he has the potential to improve, but I can't see him excelling into a very good footballer. Perhaps a reasonable squad player for them though, as he looks capable of playing in a few positions. Like a more handsome Phil Jones, minus the status of being the greatest human being.

That said, I don't think he'll want to be a squad player. He could have done that for Bayern, whilst raking in plenty of medals.
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I don't see him excelling into a top midfielder either. The basics just seem to be missing.
Loose control and pass, sometimes iffy positioning for someone who doesn't do tons going forward, and has the Fellaini clumsiness in the tackle.

But maybe, just maybe, the faster pace and hustle-and-bustle of the Premier League will mask a few of those deficiencies, and actually suit him. Liverpool do lack a bit of presence deeper in midfield too, so he offers that I guess.
And the price wouldn't be too bad for a 20 year old.
 
He was awful against us when we won 5-0, Valencia absolutely tore him apart. Never seen him play in midfield though.
 
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