Eminem

I thought it was only 11 year old kids who listen to that wanker?
 
It's anything but amazing...it sounds like an old Backstreet boys song remixed with a toy drum and someone pretending to be eminem rapping over it....
 
It's not bad, although Mockney's point re: the Backstreet Boys is amusing because it's kind of true.
 
Heard it on Power 106 this morning, it's pretty good
 
He shouldn't need those strings & reverb to manufacture grandiosity. Same song with an understated backing track and a gospel choir instead of vocal layering = good.
 
He shouldn't need those strings & reverb to manufacture grandiosity. Same song with an understated backing track and a gospel choir instead of vocal layering = good.

Em probably knows a little bit more than you when it comes to making music, that said a lot of his stuff is overproduced these days it seems, hell not even these days for the past several years. That was why I loved The Warning it was simple and he was mad
 
Em probably knows a little bit more than you when it comes to making music, that said a lot of his stuff is overproduced these days it seems, hell not even these days for the past several years. That was why I loved The Warning it was simple and he was mad

Doubt it.

At this point in his career, manufactured ambience is unnecessary posturing. He should try something new; maybe go for a low-key approach and let his lyricism do most of the work, with production emphasis on punctuating key passages instead of on creating atmosphere. His storytelling ability and delivery are more than strong enough to do that on their own.

Sure he has his signature symbiotic bond with the syncopated second downbeat marked by the same machine he's used since God-knows-when, but I'm sure with a little sleight-of-hand a good producer could get him a 'one-guy-in-a-room-with-just-his-mind-and-a-mic' sound without sacrificing any production value.
 
Doubt it.

At this point in his career, manufactured ambience is unnecessary posturing. He should try something new; maybe go for a low-key approach and let his lyricism do most of the work, with production emphasis on punctuating key passages instead of on creating atmosphere. His storytelling ability and delivery are more than strong enough to do that on their own.

Sure he has his signature symbiotic bond with the syncopated second downbeat marked by the same machine he's used since God-knows-when, but I'm sure with a little sleight-of-hand a good producer could get him a 'one-guy-in-a-room-with-just-his-mind-and-a-mic' sound without sacrificing any production value.

:lol:
 

Figured you might do that. But decided to give you the benefit of the doubt: Maybe you had a bad day. It's looking like this isn't the case.

Go to sleep. Just because you can't imagine something doesn't make it impossible. Kind of like a parent being a US citizen granting US citizenship to a child born overseas. You were so sure about that one, too, weren't ya.

It's a big world out there.
 
Em probably knows a little bit more than you when it comes to making music


:lol:

Yes, whereas every football manager who's tactical choices you've ever questioned obviously knows less about football than you.
 
For me Eminem has just passed an entire decade of being ridiculously overated.

Still can't fathom how he's in most people's Top 10.

Especially when you compare him to the artists he's lined up with in those lists.
 
For me Eminem has just passed an entire decade of being ridiculously overated.

Still can't fathom how he's in most people's Top 10.

Especially when you compare him to the artists he's lined up with in those lists.
The generation that bought all his music thinks Avril Lavigne is "hardcore punk rock", Hilary Duff has "a great voice", Ashlee Simpson is "a brilliant entertainer" and Simple Plan "the best rock band in the world".
 
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No, it probably isn't, and it fairness I haven't heard all of his songs anyway.

But, it is pretty bad, at least in 95 I could listen to him and appreciate his choice of music, and his talent, but his direction, style and flow have become unlistenable.

What the feck is that beat as well?
 
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No, it probably isn't, and it fairness I haven't heard all of his songs anyway.

But, it is pretty bad, at least in 95 I could listen to him and appreciate his choice of music, and his talent, but his direction, style and flow have become unlistenable.

What the feck is that beat as well?

Fair play, I mean I feel what you're saying, his whole style has switched up but I guess that's the effect of coming off all those drugs, the beat, hehe, erm, how do I put this....

That's one of Drake's main producers...
 
Oh ffs, you and Mockers are on a wind up, so this is worse than 'just lose it' he's actually spitting some good ryhmes

Just lose it was more entertaining

In a choice between a stupid pop song that knows it's a stupid pop song and a stupid pop song that thinks its serious and important....I chose a) every time.


It also debatably had a better beat...since there wasn't an opportunity to stand up for a key change in an all white suit in that one.

Seriously Boss...that beat is an embarasment to Hip Hop...so is the singing, I don't know how you can listen to it
 

Just enjoy it

Look at me I sold 500k records, going on world tours, selling out arenas, yes I am paraphrasing but that is basically what I got from the first part, which makes it no different to what most other rappers say. Hip Hop artists used to at least try and express their feelings and say what was happening around them, now it is just who has the biggest crew, who wears the most gold and who "rolls on the fattest rims", no substance to it whatsoever. IMO.
 
...and they've clearly stop producing beats too...so are having to live off the scraps of the pop charts
 
Look at me I sold 500k records, going on world tours, selling out arenas, yes I am paraphrasing but that is basically what I got from the first part, which makes it no different to what most other rappers say. Hip Hop artists used to at least try and express their feelings and say what was happening around them, now it is just who has the biggest crew, who wears the most gold and who "rolls on the fattest rims", no substance to it whatsoever. IMO.

So you basically didn't listen to it
 
Just lose it was more entertaining

In a choice between a stupid pop song that knows it's a stupid pop song and a stupid pop song that thinks its serious and important....I chose a) every time.


It also debatably had a better beat...since there wasn't an opportunity to stand up for a key change in an all white suit in that one.

Seriously Boss...that beat is an embarasment to Hip Hop...so is the singing, I don't know how you can listen to it

The singing is horrible, I mean really horrible, I don't know why he does it but I think the flow and rhyme structure is pretty good
 
So you basically didn't listen to it

Nah, as I say, just the first bit and then I lost the will to live. I gave up on Hip Hop many years ago. When I was younger I used to love it; Schooly D, BDP, Public Enemy, EPMD.

I stopped listening to newer stuff mid 90's and never really heard anything since that has made me change my mind about the newer stuff, granted I don't go out of my way to find it now.

But if you could introduce me to something decent I might give it a go, but if it is stuff like Eminem or Drake then I doubt I would be impressed.
 
Nah, as I say, just the first bit and then I lost the will to live. I gave up on Hip Hop many years ago. When I was younger I used to love it; Schooly D, BDP, Public Enemy, EPMD.

I stopped listening to newer stuff mid 90's and never really heard anything since that has made me change my mind about the newer stuff, granted I don't go out of my way to find it now.

But if you could introduce me to something decent I might give it a go, but if it is stuff like Eminem or Drake then I doubt I would be impressed.

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Very true....which is why I mostly listen to that and UK hip hop....occasionally popping into these threads to be patronising.

The flow is weird for me Boss...it's that nu skool hip pop flow I don't like...maybe I'm just being resistant to change, but I can't really stand that kind of quicked up slightly shifted bar wise rap used for doing over pop or house stuff, it doesn't feel fluid...it feels like someone's taken an acapella and put it over a pop tune in slighty the wrong place...like when J-Lo sung on that Beatnuts tune at the wrong point

He's not a patch on what he was when he rapping on stuff like this...here's him making a rather weak beat irrelevant.

 
Eminem is a knobcheese of the highest order. feck I hate that guy's "music".

Cheesy feckin knob.
 
Very true....which is why I mostly listen to that and UK hip hop....occasionally popping into these threads to be patronising.

The flow is weird for me Boss...it's that nu skool hip pop flow I don't like...maybe I'm just being resistant to change, but I can't really stand that kind of quicked up slightly shifted bar wise rap used for doing over pop or house stuff, it doesn't feel fluid.

He's not a patch on what he was when he rapping on stuff like this...here's him making a rather weak beat irrelevant.



:DClassic shit, this is the problem with getting super rich, you can't really get that natural feeling after a while


One of my faves

Em has got to the stage where he wants to go back to his real rap, but it's like he's forgot how, it's probably where the accent came from in his last cd.