He's getting there.
Elon Musk's epic bacon adventures
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He's getting there.
Its currently resting on the 200ema on a weekly chart. Goldman has them dropping to 210
You are talking about tunnels that go from point A to B. What's the correlating example for los angeles?
Boston is a relevant example in this discussion.
@Vidic_In_Moscow has a funny story about the Blackwall Tunnel getting blocked.
Err, used to I guess?
The Blackwall is a weird one. Absolutely fine North-South, but can be an absolute clusterfeck the other way round. It's a million times better than Rotherhithe though.
I very much doubt he is an idiot. Extremely high functioning Autistic maybe.
15 minutes in only but Musk is really painful to listen to so far.
Let's talk LA.
Trains :- Terrible, under-used, slow. Hated by most.
Cars :- Terrible, over-used, slow. Hated by most.
Whether you are team train or team car, it's clear that LA's transit problem isn't easily solved. But turning investing in tunnels to help build a decent metro system is a good start. As is investing in a tunnel system to stop cars travelling from West Covina to Long Beach interacting with cars travelling from Glendale to Santa Ana.
Tunnels for mass transit yes, tunnels for individual i fecking love science pods so that rich people don't have to rub shoulders with the unwashed masses are not remotely practical
Ironically New Orleans is not remotely practical for a city. That bridge is ridiculously inefficient just for the obvious (you don't bridge a body of water at the greatest distance between its shores ffs):
Ah fair enough!.
It might be worth being said, I don't think tunnels are the "future" solution to a cities mass transit problem.
People shouldn't need to use a car to get to work. Or a train. Or a bus. People should be able to walk across any city in under an hour.
Most people commute for up to an hour, sitting on their arse, doing little, achieving little. Don't move the people, move the buildings!
Imagine a big circular street, 4.5 km in diameter, in the middle of a city. The whole street (the roads, the buildings, the pavements, the side streets, everything) travels the circle at about 1 m/s. There is a small cut in the centre of a road; on one side of the road the buildings seem stationary, whilst on the other side of the road the buildings and everything else, slowly travel along the circle route through the city.
One meter per second is only 2.2 mph, most people can easily get out of the way of any object travelling that slowly (just walk around it), including a building if need be. But where the moving and non-moving sections of the city meet there wouldn't be anything to be hit by anyway, just a free space to walk or drive between (a car could easily differentiate it's tyre speed by 2 mph as it crosses). On the edge of the moving and non-moving you could have a giant park area where the squirrels can jump the gap between the trees, or you could have a small stream to wade or jump over, or a road with a small cut in the ground, or a street.
A man living opposite the moving street leaving his house at 7:00 am and walking onto the street would find himself 3.6 km away from where he would find himself if he left at 8:00 am.
But that's not enough. Inside that circular street, we need another street, this one moving a further 1 m/s faster than the first. And then another, which is 1 m/s faster than that. And then a forth (the fastest!). Then a fifth which is 1 m/s slower than the 4th, and a sixth which is slower and a 7th street which is only as fast as the first.
Every hour, the middle street completes a full rotation of it's circumference.
Now a man living opposite the moving street can leave his house at 7:00 am, walk across two streets, and find himself 7.2 km away from where he would be if he'd left an hour later (circularly not lineally). Or 10.8 km if he crosses three streets. He can either use the streets themselves to quickly walk round the city at an effective speed of about 12 mph, or (if he works on the moving streets themselves), he can wait for his office to roll around and have a 5 minute walking commute.
The moving streets don't need to be strictly circular, they can be oval or meander like a river. Two different sets of circular streets can meet (in a figure of eight shape) and where they touch, people can walk across.
Let the cities themselves be the mass transit system. Forget cars, busses, trams, and even forget the monorail. Let people walk, cycle, skate and wheel themselves as the skyline passes around them.
That's the future.
This is interesting because when I was working in green energy sector, one thing became very obvious. With our level of technology we could pretty much already build new cities with close to zero net energy. Not only that but without even a fraction of the waste through water and material recycling as modern sprawl cities. Its perfectly within our ability as a civilization. But the problem is people already live in what are extremely inefficient city designs due to a half century or more of the sprawl design of urban planning. And we have economic inertia towards inefficient designs.
If you are interested in city planning at all, its interesting to read about the historical city planning debate in the US between Robert Moses and Jane Jacobs. In short Moses is one of the pioneers of the inefficient 1950s era idealized suburbia sprawl design. And Jacobs is really the forerunner and pioneer of the energy and socially efficient neighborhoods, mixed use city blocks and a citizen focused approach.
Here is a good start if you aren't familiar with these two New Yorkers
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/apr/28/story-cities-32-new-york-jane-jacobs-robert-moses
https://savingplaces.org/stories/a-tale-of-two-planners-jane-jacobs-and-robert-moses#.W5L34aBjOJA
I drove that bridge earlier this year. It's more for commuters who live on the other side, not for people actually in the city.
What about plumbing and electricity and what not?
Further down that thread he complains about calling something a lake but it used to be a lake, it just eroded partially
No idea how we've moved from floating buildings to Lucinda Williams but I like it. This is the only song I know of her, because a cover of the song by the band Hurray for the riff raff who's lead singer looks like a less attractive version of Aubrey Plaza kept on popping up in my playlists a couple of months ago.
So did Rogan even ask him about the pedo stuff? I've got no interest in watching Musk talk about his ideas and stuff I just want to watch him saying stupid shit.
It would be a boon if he could speed up the Hammersmith & City line tbf.
Trying not to foul myself on the tube.
Trying not to foul myself on the tube.
What was the weather like? I heard in storms that bridge is scary as feck
weather was fine. it was just a really long drive. there were a number of crossovers too, which i thought was odd
Electricity could pass through no problem. Much easier to solve that problem than to rotate the thing in the first place.
Plumbing is more difficult. Likely still possible, especially fresh water entering the street, or just have each rotating section have it's it's own treatment and capture services.
Has anyone discussed the thing about California being on/near a tectonic fault line? Not sure i want to travel underground in that area.
That's like an episode from the office.
San Francisco Bay Area. There are a lot of bridges and a train tunnel. More tunnels would be great.
Rogan asked him about that, he said that it was like an ocean. If there is a storm you don't want to be on the surface and than the lower down you go, the less it becomes less of an issue. I have no idea if he's correct.
Engineers have been building bridges and tunnels for hundreds of years in areas with a lot of earthquakes (CA, Japan, Greece etc). It is not something we need to discuss in a football forum!
I never heard him talk before. He remided me of Kermit somehow.
Are you in the football forum right now?
This is the general forum, and its a thread about Elon Musk so yeah we can discuss.
I still need some convincing!
The ground moves. Engineers build that into their designs.
Steel and concrete expands in heat.
Soil can dry out or get saturated.
Bridges are buffeted by winds.
So why did the Tesla shares drop exactly? Media is trying to connect it to him smoking a joint but that's absurd, surely?