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Who would be the best signing for a club like Chelsea and city, Falcao or Cavani?

Not seen much of him this season as they not show Serie A here, but looking at his stats for Napoli, 29 goals in 34 games is fantastic.

Both just as devastating as each other really. Both are good in the air, both deadly in the box, both natural goalscorers. If there had to be who would suit more, I think Falcao would work better with the three amigos behind him, as the linkup they would all make would be utterly devastating. Cavani is like Tevez in his best mode in that he will work harder than anyone else on the pitch, and he is creative as well as a finisher. Basically, do not want at either, I would be seriously worried if either managed to get one.
 
Chelsea in talks to sign in-demand striker.

Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis has revealed that his club are in talks with Chelsea over the transfer of star striker Edinson Cavani, according to Sky Sports.

The Uruguayan hit man has been linked with a number of top clubs this summer, after emerging as one of the world’s best forwards at the Italian club, but Chelsea now look the favourites to secure his signature over the likes of Manchester City and Real Madrid.

New Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho will be keen to make an immediate impact upon his return to Stamford Bridge, and is aware of the club’s need for new firepower upfront, following the poor form of current strike pair Fernando Torres and Demba Ba.

With 104 goals in 138 games for Napoli, Cavani looks like exactly the kind of lethal finisher the Blues need, and they are supposedly willing to pay his extensive minimum release fee clause of £53.5million, which will make him their record signing.

De Laurentiis is quoted as saying: “If Cavani is sold then I’ll reinvest all of the €63million (£53.5m) of his release clause.

“There is interest from Chelsea in Cavani, they’ll call me in the next few hours.”

Napoli, now managed by former Chelsea interim boss Rafael Benitez, have been linked with the likes of Edin Dzeko and Jose Callejon as replacements for Cavani.
 
They should splash the cash on a central midfield and sorting their defense out. Cavani is a great player but they already have Lukaku and Torres and Ba are extremely good of a bench.

I think Luiz will be a very interesting managerial decision for Mourinho, will he use him as a DM? Will he use him as a CB? Sell him? There is no real answer to that problem.
 
Wow, excited to see him in the Prem next season

I assume this means Torres is off, but does this spell the end of Lukaku's stay at Chelsea? Cavani is not a 'young' player, but he is coming into his prime and if Ba stays (why would he go?), Lakaku might want to jump ship while coming off a great season at West Brom. His stock probably hasn't been this high since he joined Chelsea and had some early rough months there before going on loan
 
Wow, excited to see him in the Prem next season

I assume this means Torres is off, but does this spell the end of Lukaku's stay at Chelsea? Cavani is not a 'young' player, but he is coming into his prime and if Ba stays (why would he go?), Lakaku might want to jump ship while coming off a great season at West Brom. His stock probably hasn't been this high since he joined Chelsea and had a few rough months there


Exactly, a very odd signing if true and pretty unnecessary as they have bigger problems. Cavani will kill Lukakus career if they sign him so that is very odd. Cavani is also one of the least injury prone strikers out there and rarely misses a game so Lukaku won't get games that way either.

Lukaku is such a perfect player for any team who uses midgets in the AM line. They don't just need that strength, explosive pace, finishing and aerial threat up there which are all Lukakus strengths.

I will be very happy if Chelsea buys Cavani as that means they will be wasting the majority of their yearly transfer budget on a player who won't solve most of the problems their team has.
 
One of their obvious problems was they lacked a top striker. Lukaku has shown potential but he's still nowhere near ready to be Chelsea's main striker. Scoring a hat-trick against us when we were in holiday mode has strangely given people this idea that he's now on the verge of becoming a top striker. Does no-one remember the last player to score a hat-trick against us? He was more impressive at a similar sized club but struggled when he eventually moved on to a big club and now he's on the verge of being released. Lukaku's younger and a completely different player but that's besides the point. Lukaku's done well at West Brom but Chelsea's a completely different challenge. Particularly given Chelsea only have room for the one forward as that puts a huge amount of pressure on him. It's different to Welbeck after his loan spell at Sunderland as he had Rooney beside him who then upped his goalscoring to compensate for Welbeck's inexperience. Relying on a 20 year old to be your main goalscorer is very risky and very unlikely.

Torres has gotten himself back into a bit of form recently which should see him fetch a decent fee now but that's the height of it, it's obvious he's not getting back to his 2008 form. Ba doesn't look good enough to be a top team's main goalscorer either (shocker) and I suppose his example further reinforces the point about the huge gap between a midtable club and a top club and the reactionary nature of you lot - look how many people called him a top striker and look how he's struggled. Cavani is, IMO, the best forward on the market this summer and he'll be in with a shout of being the best forward in the league if he comes here. Not only is he going to guarantee them goals but he'll really add to their build-up play in a way Falcao simply wouldn't. I really think he'll surprise a lot of people by how good he is. The majority of people have only really seen him in a couple of games for Napoli and a few games out of position for Uruguay because of the decline in popularity of Serie A but he's been absolutely brilliant. Can't think of another top striker that works as hard as he does too.
 
One of their obvious problems was they lacked a top striker. Lukaku has shown potential but he's still nowhere near ready to be Chelsea's main striker. Scoring a hat-trick against us when we were in holiday mode has strangely given people this idea that he's now on the verge of becoming a top striker. Does no-one remember the last player to score a hat-trick against us? He was more impressive at a similar sized club but struggled when he eventually moved on to a big club and now he's on the verge of being released. Lukaku's younger and a completely different player but that's besides the point. Lukaku's done well at West Brom but Chelsea's a completely different challenge. Particularly given Chelsea only have room for the one forward as that puts a huge amount of pressure on him. It's different to Welbeck after his loan spell at Sunderland as he had Rooney beside him who then upped his goalscoring to compensate for Welbeck's inexperience. Relying on a 20 year old to be your main goalscorer is very risky and very unlikely.

Torres has gotten himself back into a bit of form recently which should see him fetch a decent fee now but that's the height of it, it's obvious he's not getting back to his 2008 form. Ba doesn't look good enough to be a top team's main goalscorer either (shocker) and Cavani's (IMO) the best forward on the market. Not only is he going to guarantee them goals but he'll really add to their build-up play in a way Falcao simply wouldn't. I really think he'll surprise a lot of people by how good he is. The majority of people have only really seen him in a couple of games for Napoli and a few games out of position for Uruguay because of the decline in popularity of Serie A but he's been absolutely brilliant. Can't think of another top striker that works as hard as he does too.

I think the 14 other goals against good teams is the difference though. His goals to playing time is very decent for a team like west brom. Not only that but he has looked a handful even when not scoring.
 
I think the 14 other goals against good teams is the difference though. His goals to playing time is very decent for a team like west brom. Not only that but he has looked a handful even when not scoring.


Absolutely, I'm not saying the hype is solely based on that but it's made him jump up a couple of levels in a lot of people's estimations IMO. Before then he'd already shown glimpses of the potential he'd presumably shown in Belgium but he'd also had a lot of really poor games, games that would make Torres look good by comparison. Certainly he's shown the potential to play for Chelsea though. 11 goals since January is great but he also failed to score in 11 of his 16 starts since January - like a lot of young strikers the goals have come in spurts. Mourinho wouldn't put up with that.
 
yeah I don't think he will be Chelsea's first choice, but certainly deserves a crack at their team. Would rather play him than Torres at present.
 
I agree that he deserves a chance to get a good amount of games at Chelsea this year, gradually phased into the team as he was with West Brom, but then that's Mourinho for you. He wants two top players for every position and very few young players are good enough to fit into that. I'd probably move on if I were him but then moving to Chelsea in the first place never seemed a particularly clever move.
 
One of their obvious problems was they lacked a top striker. Lukaku has shown potential but he's still nowhere near ready to be Chelsea's main striker. Scoring a hat-trick against us when we were in holiday mode has strangely given people this idea that he's now on the verge of becoming a top striker. Does no-one remember the last player to score a hat-trick against us? He was more impressive at a similar sized club but struggled when he eventually moved on to a big club and now he's on the verge of being released. Lukaku's younger and a completely different player but that's besides the point. Lukaku's done well at West Brom but Chelsea's a completely different challenge. Particularly given Chelsea only have room for the one forward as that puts a huge amount of pressure on him. It's different to Welbeck after his loan spell at Sunderland as he had Rooney beside him who then upped his goalscoring to compensate for Welbeck's inexperience. Relying on a 20 year old to be your main goalscorer is very risky and very unlikely.

Torres has gotten himself back into a bit of form recently which should see him fetch a decent fee now but that's the height of it, it's obvious he's not getting back to his 2008 form. Ba doesn't look good enough to be a top team's main goalscorer either (shocker) and I suppose his example further reinforces the point about the huge gap between a midtable club and a top club and the reactionary nature of you lot - look how many people called him a top striker and look how he's struggled. Cavani is, IMO, the best forward on the market this summer and he'll be in with a shout of being the best forward in the league if he comes here. Not only is he going to guarantee them goals but he'll really add to their build-up play in a way Falcao simply wouldn't. I really think he'll surprise a lot of people by how good he is. The majority of people have only really seen him in a couple of games for Napoli and a few games out of position for Uruguay because of the decline in popularity of Serie A but he's been absolutely brilliant. Can't think of another top striker that works as hard as he does too.


I'm going to completely disagree with that. I honestly believe that Lukaku will become Chelsea's main striker next season and will be a key player for Mourinho, more so in Europe. It's just a perfect fit (Lukaku this is). I actually see him eventually being ahead of both Torres and Ba under Mourinho.
 
I'm going to completely disagree with that. I honestly believe that Lukaku will become Chelsea's main striker next season and will be a key player for Mourinho, more so in Europe. It's just a perfect fit (Lukaku this is). I actually see him eventually being ahead of both Torres and Ba under Mourinho.


Don't you think that's a bit much to ask of a 20 year old who's only just had one full season with a midtable club to suddenly become a main striker at a top 4 club who will be playing Champions league football? That seems unlikely.
 
I think it's unlikely Mourinho will be satisfied with Lukaku, Torres and Ba as his centre-forward options, when he's operated with Benzema/Higuain, Milito/Eto'o, Drogba/Crespo/Shevchenko in the past.
 
Don't you think that's a bit much to ask of a 20 year old who's only just had one full season with a midtable club to suddenly become a main striker at a top 4 club who will be playing Champions league football? That seems unlikely.


Not really, no.

Can see him fitting in under Mourinho brilliantly. Lethal on the counter attack (Which Jose loves in Europe) and just a class player all around. I've seen enough from him last season to believe he'll be given a chance by Mourinho and I'd expect he'll take that chance. It'll be a different ball game if Cavani or a massive top striker is brought in, but while things are as they are, Lukaku stands a massive chance of getting in ahead of Torres and/or Ba under Jose.
 
I'm going to completely disagree with that. I honestly believe that Lukaku will become Chelsea's main striker next season and will be a key player for Mourinho, more so in Europe. It's just a perfect fit (Lukaku this is). I actually see him eventually being ahead of both Torres and Ba under Mourinho.


Pretty big shout that. I've seen first hand how Lukaku has progressed for the Baggies and he's worked extremely hard to make himself leaner and meaner, worked on his weaker foot and improved his all-round game. So he's definitely at this moment, too good for a club like the Albion... but jumping from that level to suddenly being a top striker capable of fronting a team that wants to win the League and the CL is huge. The spotlight you are under for a top team, the attention you receive in terms of marking and the consistency of your displays places a different demand on a player who has been cruising for a mid-table team.

An ideal situation would've been playing up front for a side like Spurs during their Uefa Cup run just to get him back in the groove of playing European Football, I don't think Chelsea have enough depth up front to risk sending him out on Loan again, so he'll probably feature in quite a few games and learn his trade amongst the first team next year. If they do send him out on loan, it should be to a side challenging in the CL to give him European experience.

If he does make an instant impact on the first team, fair play.. good shout but in my opinion, he's not quite ready. He's definitely got a chance of nipping in ahead of Ba and Torres in the pecking order, but is he ready to deliver the same level of performances as a Falcao/Cavani next year?
 
People can't forget that it is much harder to score consistently for a team who scores 53(WB) goals per season than 75(Chelsea) or 86(United).

Lukaku has just the right traits to turn an offense with Oscar, Hazard and Mata to an also very physical offense. Obviously he is not at the level of Cavani, but their front 4 is absolutely world class and if you add potential in to the mix you realize they may be sitting on an offense which is possibly the best in the world.

I think they would benefit far more from investing heavily where it is really needed which is getting a partner who can carry Ramires and re-organize their entire defensive line.

Cole is still very solid defensively, but in a 4-2-3-1 where Oscar and Hazard are your wingers you need width from the wing-backs. Cole just isn't at the level where he can boss the defense and offense simultaneously these days and only got 2 assists last season which reflects that.

They would be best off investing in two wing-backs who can provide a more simple and direct outlet like Baines. As a plan B when teams cluster the penalty area.

So next year either Chelsea will have strengthened 1 position or possibly 2, from signing Cavani and one smaller signing. Or they will have improved in 4 or possibly 5 in 2 wing-backs, Lukaku coming back which strengthens their forwards and a top class CM with that "extra CB signing" still being an option.

It is a bit too easy to say Cavani>Lukaku as it is all economy and what matters is that 50 mill can improve a team a lot more than replacing Lukaku with Cavani.
 
Lukaku is not ready to be his teams main striker imo. He is a good talented youngster but simply saying he scored for West Brom so he will score loads for Chelsea is not how it works. Look at Ba he was scoring for fun at Newcastle. Cavani is too talented a player to pass up in all honesty they are selling Ba and Torres I think both well fetch around 25-30 million. Lukaku can learn his trade under Cavani but the level and consistency at a top club is too much for Lukaku currently imo. They have the money and will strengthen in other areas also.
 
They don't really have a choice of Lukaku and Cavani. Cavani is very rarely injured so Lukaku will rot on the bench which is something he already expressed dislike about.

That is why he is at WBA right now dominating, and his impressive stay there certainly means he will want more than being a bench-warmer.
 
Mourinho is a RIGHT NOW manager. He will not play Lukaku because of what he will become he wants player's who are good enough now. He will just have to prove himself to Mourinho. Cavani takes there attack up another level. They have spoken and Lukaku is staying so they seem to have sorted it out among themselves.
 
Yeah? Last interviews from Lukaku stated the exact opposite, that he wants to be a starter. Replacing Lampard with a 50 million midfielder would improve the team with more than replacing Lukaku with Cavani.

Anyhow if Lukaku has stated he wants to become a bench-warmer then it changes a lot.
 
They don't really have a choice of Lukaku and Cavani. Cavani is very rarely injured so Lukaku will rot on the bench which is something he already expressed dislike about.

That is why he is at WBA right now dominating, and his impressive stay there certainly means he will want more than being a bench-warmer.

That is Chelsea for you though, he might not want to warm the bench but it was always going to happen their at this stage of his career. I still think he'll get games though, even if Cavani arrives, it just won't be too many starts and potentially might be on the wing.

There is no way Mourinho will be happy with Ba and Torres as his first choice strikers - he went back to Chelsea to try and win things not compete for a Champions League place.

Cavani would be the type of 'huge-money-forward-signing' you expect them to make after Shevchenko and Torres, and in reality this is the weakest their strikers have been since Roman took control.
 
That is Chelsea for you though, he might not want to warm the bench but it was always going to happen their at this stage of his career. I still think he'll get games though, even if Cavani arrives, it just won't be too many starts and potentially might be on the

There is no way Mourinho will be happy with Ba and Torres as his first choice strikers - he went back to Chelsea to try and win things not compete for a Champions League place.

Cavani would be the type of 'huge-money-forward-signing' you expect them to make after Shevchenko and Torres, and in reality this is the weakest their strikers have been since Roman took control.


Lukaku as first striker with Torres and Ba as the reserves is fairly strong. I agree that it is typical of Chelsea to spend 80 million on strikers and then want to replace them with the "taste of the season" for no real reason.

As a United fan we can't dream for any better way to "waste" 50 million quid though so I will be very happy if they do get him. It also means that if he fails to accustom himself with the English league, or he gets injured they went all in on one card.

This signing really screams Torres.
 
Yeah? Last interviews from Lukaku stated the exact opposite, that he wants to be a starter. Replacing Lampard with a 50 million midfielder would improve the team with more than replacing Lukaku with Cavani.

Anyhow if Lukaku has stated he wants to become a bench-warmer then it changes a lot.


We will see but there is no doubt that Cavani will improve their team more than Lukaku did. Lukaku's potential will not stop Mourinho from buying a better player for right now. They are not done with their buying/ or selling. They have spoken Mourinho has likely told him the truth you are 20 years old you are talented but you are not good enough yet but you can prove me wrong. Cavani is too good to miss out on for Lukaku.
 
We will see but there is no doubt that Cavani will improve their team more than Lukaku did. Lukaku's potential will not stop Mourinho from buying a better player for right now. They are not done with their buying/ or selling. They have spoken Mourinho has likely told him the truth you are 20 years old you are talented but you are not good enough yet but you can prove me wrong. Cavani is too good to miss out on for Lukaku.


I agree, like I always did that Cavani is better than Lukaku. But they can solve more than 1 problem for 50 million quid and Lukaku/Ba/Torres for the lone striker role is not near their weakest area of their team.
 
Cavani, Hulk and Jovetic in.

Torres, Mata and Ba out was what Bild had yesterday in their transfer ticker.

Of course getting rid of Mata would be madness but if there would be a chance that he is available, let's snatch him up fast. :D
 
I agree, like I always did that Cavani is better than Lukaku. But they can solve more than 1 problem for 50 million quid and Lukaku/Ba/Torres for the lone striker role is not near their weakest area of their team.


True but I don't think Lukau plus Ba and Torres is good enough in all honesty.
 
True but I don't think Lukau plus Ba and Torres is good enough in all honesty.


Good enough for what though? Is Lampard good enough for what Lukaku isn't good enough for? Is Ashley Cole, Luiz, Terry good enough for that too?

Do they expect to fight for the CL with aging Terry, Lampard and Cole in the team? They don't have a RB either and their best CB is used on the RB position out of necessity more than anything.

All I am saying is that by buying Cavani for 50 mill they solve one of their 5~ major troubles. If they didn't sign Cavani and spent the money on the other areas they would solve at least 4 positions.
 
De Laurentiis is quoted as saying: “If Cavani is sold then I’ll reinvest all of the €63million (£53.5m) of his release clause.

Imagine Benitez spending that money. That's a good 8 or 9 average players!
 
Good enough for what though? Is Lampard good enough for what Lukaku isn't good enough for? Is Ashley Cole, Luiz, Terry good enough for that too?

Do they expect to fight for the CL with aging Terry, Lampard and Cole in the team? They don't have a RB either and their best CB is used on the RB position out of necessity more than anything.

All I am saying is that by buying Cavani for 50 mill they solve one of their 5~ major troubles. If they didn't sign Cavani and spent the money on the other areas they would solve at least 4 positions.

Good enough for a team that has the aspirations to win here and in Europe they are not good enough to be their strikers. The fees is not important if they can afford it and still buy more players which Chelsea can.


Your assuming Cavani will be their only signing I am not. For me he is the first of up to 4 or 5 with a few players leaving also. They are not the only team who would want Cavani City, PSG and Real would be interested so it makes sense to get this deal done first. Their rb position is fine Azplicueta has done well and should at the least maintain his level from this past season, he is young so he should improve he played there 48 times this season so he has the position locked down so this talk of Ivanovic having to play there is wrong he is a backup at right back and cb. Personally I'm not ready to right off Ashley Cole yet his position is not one that needs desperate filling they could do with better cover he is still a solid lb. They need a cb, cm and a striker those are their main areas that need improvement. I expect Lampard to be a rotation player. They are not as far of as people like to think Cavani is a logical signing for a team who wants to compete at the highest level.
 
Good enough for what though? Is Lampard good enough for what Lukaku isn't good enough for? Is Ashley Cole, Luiz, Terry good enough for that too?

Do they expect to fight for the CL with aging Terry, Lampard and Cole in the team? They don't have a RB either and their best CB is used on the RB position out of necessity more than anything.

All I am saying is that by buying Cavani for 50 mill they solve one of their 5~ major troubles. If they didn't sign Cavani and spent the money on the other areas they would solve at least 4 positions.

Azpilicueta is their main rb, ivanovic only there against big teams.
 
Cavani will be a monster buy for Chelsea, he's the total package and will give them the world class striker they've needed since Drogba.
 
Cavani will be a monster buy for Chelsea, he's the total package and will give them the world class striker they've needed since Drogba.
If they manage to bring Cavani, Matic (or another good defensive midfielder) and a good centre half they will have the best team in the league, comfortably.
 
If they manage to bring Cavani, Matic (or another good defensive midfielder) and a good centre half they will have the best team in the league, comfortably.
Agreed and knowing Mourinho and Abramovich they'll get the 3 top signings they need to solidify what was already a good team.
 
I've never really rated him. He's a very good player (obviously) but I've never had him amongst the World's best like so many others have. Just something about him makes me think he wouldn't be anywhere near as effective over here.
 
I've never really rated him. He's a very good player (obviously) but I've never had him amongst the World's best like so many others have. Just something about him makes me think he wouldn't be anywhere near as effective over here.
Why? If anything defences are stronger in Serie A than they are in England, he's a top class forward and he's still young. He won't be coming there on the basis of a rather poor season like Torres or Shevchenko either.
 
Why? If anything defences are stronger in Serie A than they are in England, he's a top class forward and he's still young. He won't be coming there on the basis of a rather poor season like Torres or Shevchenko either.

As I said, it's not something I can put my finger on. Just something about him gives me that impression when I'm watching him. I just don't think he's all he's cracked up to be.
 
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