I see these posts quite often, same was said when we signed Shaw for left back, sorted for next ten years, now LB is supposedly where we are desperate for a player.
It’s impossible to make conclusions about the longevity of a player
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It’s impossible to make conclusions about the longevity of a player
I think Danny Ings is a good player. But how much would a decent English striker from a PL team cost £50m?
even if we got a bid accepted, why would he want to go from main striker to a bench player? He’s not displacing Martial, and not is Cavani.
I understand some of the criticism levelled at Cavani. But I’ve yet to hear anyone make a valid suggestion of an alternative?
Fixed for you, and no, it is far from a good window.
The once-great Manchester United has been reduced again to signing players at the end of their careers, instead of buying for the future, and arguing over a couple of mill.
Great, and yes, he will challenge Martial, but Martial and his whopping 15 goals a season is not exactly the standard we should be looking for when looking to compete again.
Oh dear... we'll be lucky to get 6th place with this team, when all our competitors have strengthened by a margin.
Greenwood is insufficient for the right-wing. We have to be prepared for a period of time where he will show inconsistency and having no depth there is an issue.
It will be bad if we run him into the ground. We don't want to do to him what Liverpool did to Owen.
Fair enough, let's leave it at that. My initial idea was not to fight with anyone over this, I was even having a big laugh last night. My concern is the well-being of our club, we're not in a good state and we don't seem to ever learn from our mistakes.
I think the frustration with the Sancho transfer is clouding people’s judgement on this deal. Cavani, if he can’t stay fit, can still be good for us and if we land Sancho he can be very good with genuine quality coming through the middle and wide. Also the other forward can learn a lot from him.
Oh sorry, thought this was a forum. Where one can express an opinion. That's my opinion. One that's shared by quite a number of United fans I'd say.
If you disagree and are excited about signing an aging player who hasn't played football for months, that's cool.
Not sure how people aren’t more uncomfortable about him potentially having to play a 60 game season
What I've read says 1 + 1. But it's all rumors now until the announcement. If it really is 1 + 1, I think it's decent.
I fully agree with you, I have the same worries about martial upfront with no sufficient back up so glad we got Cavani in atleast.
As a poster above me mentioned, no one has put forward a suitable alternative to cavani
He’s good on the wing yeah, but I’d prefer him as a striker and have a natural winger providing for him. With Sancho we would have cover for every position across the front 3 Martial/Greenwood, Sancho/Greenwood, Rashford/Sancho so on..
Played in a post Caliopoli Serie A and then spent his peak years in France. It's going to be a huge step up for him, especially at 33 years old.
Bringing in Cavani gives us the option of moving Rashford or Martial there for some games surely. Bit of rotation to give them all a rest at times without having to use James.
Attack is the best form of defence
A part of me really wants to take the piss because so many of you are being hysterical tits and deserve to be mocked.
I do think it's a good signing so I won't.
I do think it's a good signing so I won't.
As has been said elsewhere, Cavani in isolation isn’t too bad of a signing. In theory, at least. He’s a massive improvement on Ighalo and will complement Martial, Greenwood and Rashford nicely. He offers depth that we simply don’t have in the striker position.
But forcing this through one day before the end of a window in which we’ve yet to rectify glaring weaknesses elsewhere in the squad smacks of desperation. Cavani clearly wasn’t part of the plan.
The transfer window has been an overwhelming failure so far and Cavani does little to lift the mood, in spite of the potential, obvious benefits of his arrival.
But forcing this through one day before the end of a window in which we’ve yet to rectify glaring weaknesses elsewhere in the squad smacks of desperation. Cavani clearly wasn’t part of the plan.
The transfer window has been an overwhelming failure so far and Cavani does little to lift the mood, in spite of the potential, obvious benefits of his arrival.
Yes. If this really works out, it means we can rotate Rashford or Greenwood out occasionally without using James.
I don’t think he’s ready to be a striker and wouldn’t want to put that pressure on him, I like him on the wing but also think he needs cover there too, it doesn’t have to necessarily be a £120m signing right now and the lack of that signing is affecting people’s mood regarding other signings imo
And all great football teams are built from the back
Fabio, Jones, Smalling, Rafael was our defence "sorted" for a decade. That went well.
Depends how poorly your defence is playing, the great Liverpool had to upgrade theirs before they could really challenge on a sustained basis.
I think most people agree with most of what you said. But I think this was more along the lines of a plan C rather than a blind shot in the dark.
I agree with this. Our goals conceded didn't actually reduce when we signed defenders but when we brought in Fernandes. The better the attack, the less time it will be in your half.
Attack first, defence second. Besides, I'd prefer to watch a team that scores loads of goals and leaks goals than one that does the opposite.
Firstly, Shaw is our No.1 LB.
We are looking for another LB, as cover for him and also to play in lesser games.
Shaw cannot play 50+ games per season.
Additionally, just because Shaw hasn't lit the World up, it doesn't mean that we should go out and buy a 33 year old who is coming off the back of a season in which he scored 4 league goals.
And let's not forget that we let Lukaku go, who was/is in his absolute prime. To replace him with Ighalo and now Cavani is laughable.
Spot on. It's symptomatic of a really appalling window. If he was snapped up the minute we went out to Sevilla, integrated into the team etc then fair enough.
Either it's a panic buy or we were his last choice.
Now, we may turn this around in the next 36 hours but I have my doubts I'm afraid.
I bet it’s great for an opposition fan to see this after united being quite dominant for so many years. And our melts of fans acting like spoilt Kids adds to that experience for you
Exactly
Not quite sure where you're getting your stats from, but they are massively different to mine, 602 minutes for psg, 4 goals.
Chupo is off to Bayern, don't diss him.
Well according to your theory if you are not signing everything on day 1 of the window its then stupidity and negligence from the club. I am not saying he was the number 1 target but signing another striker to replace Ighalo was likely but not exactly urgent as he is still here until January.
You should know better. Cavani is the sort of busted flush signing that Chelsea have specialised in when it comes to centre forwards.
Problem is that "young hungry players" are either ridiculously expensive or not very good.
What it does miss though is "we only want players who want to play for the club". It seems that they've got Cavani because United are the only interested team that could afford him.
United have enough young talented players. Experience and leadership is what the team needs and Bruno joining in January made a huge difference for that reason. Hopefully Cavani can make a similar impact in attack.
You seem too sensible to be a Chelsea fan.
Just to clarify, we are not buying prime Cavani.
We are buying a player who was released by his current club and nobody else is willing to pay wages for.
They’ve been for starting spots though haven’t they, Cavani isn’t for us.
Very true. nobody can predict the future. We can only take a punt and hope for the best.
Can he make the bench today against Spurs?
No you said it was done this way to save 1.7M, which makes no sense.
The amount of moaning about shaw being crap you must have missed.
I also didn’t use shaw as an excuse not to buy sancho, atleast didn’t imply to, just the absolute hate for the club because we are not breaking the bank for a signing that will ‘sort us for ten years’ is over the top imo as who knows what’s going to happen in a year or two.
See the post above about our back line being sorted for ten years and how well that went, my initial post didn’t just rely on the signing of shaw
Cavani is a good short term solution in my opinion for a position we werent desperate to fill in terms of priorities this window. If he is one of a few last minute deals, makes a decent window, if it is just him, VDB and Pellistri.....its not a good window.
But a free transfer for one of the best strikers in the world (in my opinion the most under ratted below the elite) over the last decade, all be it in the twilight of his career isnt a bad deal, much like Silva to Chelsea.
He is a massive improvement on the soon departing Ighalo, even at his age should be amongst the best strikers in the league and is good competition for Martial while Greenwood continues to develop. Individuaolly, I dont undestand anybody criticising this deal, panic deal or not......however the rest of the window we need more and the biggest glaring mistake for me will be what for me was second biggest priority.....we are stuck with Lindelof or a host of crocks competing for centre back
But a free transfer for one of the best strikers in the world (in my opinion the most under ratted below the elite) over the last decade, all be it in the twilight of his career isnt a bad deal, much like Silva to Chelsea.
He is a massive improvement on the soon departing Ighalo, even at his age should be amongst the best strikers in the league and is good competition for Martial while Greenwood continues to develop. Individuaolly, I dont undestand anybody criticising this deal, panic deal or not......however the rest of the window we need more and the biggest glaring mistake for me will be what for me was second biggest priority.....we are stuck with Lindelof or a host of crocks competing for centre back
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