You’re are lucky the sun is shining it’s very gloomy here, maybe fitting for the mood at the minute.
The thing is Jimenez, Wilson, Edouard, Dembele, we’re all available and we didn’t even enquirer about them.
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The thing is Jimenez, Wilson, Edouard, Dembele, we’re all available and we didn’t even enquirer about them.
Even Danny Ings would have been better, Someone who at least would fit in more to our style of play .
Crikey even the mighty one is coming out and voicing. Terrible transfer window.
Well, I cannot comment on general fanbase expectations, and you are probably right. The expectations from last season are really hyped up due to the results we got.
In reality, this team is nowhere near as good as some people are going to expect. I don't think we'll be so lucky with penalties as we were last season and last match.
Totally agree. This is a short term deal and most people are pissed off with how poorly transfers seems to go every season.
But with regards to strikers, maybe a short term deal is all that is needed until we either get Haaland in a couple of years or Greenwood finally matures. Or maybe both?
It's the same with the Sancho/Dembele situation. Dembele loan was always a temp deal until Sancho finally arrives next season. Since the club failed to get both (and Ed/Matt deserves a bollocking for this) that means Greenwood stays on the right and a backup striker is needed. This might also have pushed the idea for Cavani as well.
You were in here crying about Cavani and then when picked up on it started going on about no problem with Cavani it’s all about the club and how shit it is at transfers and Cavani is not the problem. So you may have been in the wrong thread, non probs. Sorry it upset you that I agreed with another poster and you had to get personal
Not played since March, riddled with injuries and way past his prime. "We have learned from our mistakes" yah right..
Just play players where they fit naturally, we are shoe horning in both Rashford and Greenwood out wide. No other elite team does this. It's why our play always ends up going so central and we have no width.
Yeah, you guys didn't get personal by giving assessments to my character and my apparent way of thinking. I should pipe down and leave you to your wankfest.
This is an issue for the whole season though. Expectations must be publicly stated, the club and the fans can't expect this team to challenge for the major trophies, unless a miracle happens.
It has to be said loud and clear, we need to support the players and the manager even if we don't get the results needed.
No issue with this signing. Its the lack of signings in other positions thats the problem.
Just by the length of the contract it's a completely different approach to Sanchez
Just by the length of the contract it's a completely different approach to Sanchez
I don’t know what you mean by this, sorry. Quote me doing that or you may have the wrong person
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My thoughts are that top 4 and maybe a side trophy are decent targets for this season. But I believe the club will never announce such a thing. It's political suicide and damages the brand. Internally, I'm pretty sure that is the actual goal. Shoring up the squad depth after failing to get Sancho smacks of that.
He can really Challenge Martial. Martial best ever season is what? 15 goals? If given the same amount of time on the pitch, Cavani would score 15 as well.
Right, thank you this is a reasoned post, instead of the over hyperbolic ones you’ve been posting and I can agree with some of it.
I’m no to bothered about losing out on Ziyech as I’d happily give VdB a go on the RW and we know he can cover CAM. Sancho was obviously our no. 1 target for RW but as we all know we aren’t willing to go as high as Dortmund want which is fair enough after years of being taken advantage off.
LB I don’t see as such a high priority personally, not this window anyway, but the club is trying with Telles and would be nice to get that one over the line this window, if not, leave it and get him on a free right?
Now CDM is our biggest issue I think and it’s disappointing we haven’t tried to bring anyone in to rotate with Matic, I think that’s the position we need to improve on to fully be able to unleash our attacking midfielders.
I still disagree with you on getting Cavani in now instead of Jan, I see it as a no lose transfer, no point me going over why again. But I don’t think getting Cavani in now affects us getting Sancho or Telles or anyone else over the line, I think that’s more to do with us not wanting to pay over the odds anymore.
Overall if I step back and look at the last few windows I like what we are trying to do, we have identified positions that needed strengthening, CB (Maguire), RB (Bissaka), RW (James, even if a failure for me), CAM (Bruno, VdB). Unfortunately we still need more and more importantly we still need to release some players which I think is hindering us the most. Compared to the last 7-8yrs I think we are on the right track.
Based on what? Ings was not wanted by Klopp at Liverpool and is doing well in a less high profile team.
Comparing Cavani and Ings is ridiculous. Cavani is a far better fit for Utd. Only remains to be seen how fit he is!
I don’t understand the hate. This to me is nothing like the Di Maria/Falcao etc transfer. Cavani is not expected to be a starting name for us, just provide real quality in depth. The reality is that world class players will NOT sit on anyone’s bench for very long, especially strikers. If you want one to, there are only two ways - young prospect who’s incredibly good for his age but still a little raw OR genuine top drawer striker who just past his absolute best but will always have predatory instincts, guile, movement etc.
We’ve seen many times Fergie understand this and do the very same - Sheringham, Larsson, Owen.....
I think the only reason we are questioning this is because of the window we’ve had so far and the previous mistakes pre Ole. Personally considering the manager we have, I think this is one from the Fergie playbook, not the Woodward one.
We’ve seen many times Fergie understand this and do the very same - Sheringham, Larsson, Owen.....
I think the only reason we are questioning this is because of the window we’ve had so far and the previous mistakes pre Ole. Personally considering the manager we have, I think this is one from the Fergie playbook, not the Woodward one.
Yeah for sure. Right now, I just hope we close the Telles deal so that we can have at least one decent crosser of the ball. And more squad depth at full back, especially with Dalot leaving.
When fit, Cavani is a beast, and is perhaps slightly underrated. Scores from half chances.
Everything is about the timing and preparation. Another season has started, another season we seem unprepared and behind the competition. It's just not good enough and I'm sorry but there is no other reaction I could have but being pissed off at the people in the club responsible for this.
Woodward should come out and protect Ole by saying we are fighting only for top 4 with our current squad and resources. It's unfair on the manager and the fans to leave these unrealistic expectations of challenging City and Liverpool, it creates a toxic environment.
Ings is an absolute beast. Fitness was his issue at Liverpool, he's shown what he's about when fit.
So you’re not going to bother quoting where I questioned your character? As I expected, you made it up. Why People get so personal just because there’s a disagreement with their sulking I don’t know. Enjoy your day
Can’t help thinking it makes a mockery of the “change of culture” and “Young hungry players” ideas they been shoving down people’s throats the last year.
Been there, done that.
Ok so if we sign Sancho, Cavani, Telles and VDB,
is this a good window? I know the likelihood of Sancho is now incredibly small and I heard we just had a bid for Telles rejected on skysports.
People are saying that Cavani is not a long term Solution but surely Greenwood fighting Martial is the long term solution, in two years Greenwood could hopefully be as good as the worlds top strikers.
As for how we now look with no right winger, Cavani/ Martial/ Greenwood at centre forward.
Rashford/ Martial on the left.
Rashford/ Greenwood on the right. Plenty of options so if he’s still got it? He will provide leadership and options up there.
is this a good window? I know the likelihood of Sancho is now incredibly small and I heard we just had a bid for Telles rejected on skysports.
People are saying that Cavani is not a long term Solution but surely Greenwood fighting Martial is the long term solution, in two years Greenwood could hopefully be as good as the worlds top strikers.
As for how we now look with no right winger, Cavani/ Martial/ Greenwood at centre forward.
Rashford/ Martial on the left.
Rashford/ Greenwood on the right. Plenty of options so if he’s still got it? He will provide leadership and options up there.
I can't be bothered with you from the moment you said one of my replies was too long and you couldn't read so much.
I'm tired of short time over the top players coming here to get a retirement salary..
Agreed. The post SAF years have been horrifying in terms of transfers. The last one year or so has been at least half decent. Don't get me wrong. We still suck at transfers and we seem to be horrible at negotiations, but at least now there is some form of logic that we can derive from their choice of players. As opposed to the blind panic buy of Fellaini for more than his buy out clause. That still sends a shiver down my spine.
Yes, I think the main issue is expectations. Everyone was sold on Sancho the WHOLE transfer window and then Dembele and now we only have Cavani and the prospect of nobody else. That'll piss off most people. Me included.
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It was late at night to be fair and I’d already experienced a few of your posts. You’ve had no problem replying to me to make stuff up about what I’ve said.I can't be bothered with you from the moment you said one of my replies was too long and you couldn't read so much.
You was moaning about Cavani but not Cavani but it was the club being shit in a Cavani thread.
For what it’s worth, in another thread questioning our transfer policy and how we do things I probably would agree with you, in a thread about signing a back up strike that I think we need, I don’t agree with you.
yes. People are not necessarily getting worked up because of the Cavani deal in isolation, it's the fact that we won't end up with those four. Sancho is not going to happen, and I don't think Telles will either. Cavani+VDB is a horrendous window, given what we set out to do and what we actually need.
My reaction to the Cavani deal would be completely different if we had addressed our glaring issues. But we haven't. This deal is 100% desperation.
Sancho alone would’ve been a good transfer window because that’s where the biggest problem in the squad lays.
As a fan though we should be able to see where we are and have reasonable expectations ourselves no?
If fans come out and blame Ollie when we get injuries and squad depth is poor then that’s out of order in my opinion. However, some will say Ole should be able to get more out of those squad players. Nowadays you can’t win really.
Anyway this is the Cavani thread and I don’t think it’s right to turn it into a shit on everything United thread as I don’t agree that everything is as bad as some are trying to make out.
Do you not like greenwood on the right wing?
Is this a one-year deal worth 200k/month, with an option to extend by one more year, or a two-year deal?
I have been reading differing reports.
Surely, his knees won't last for two years.
I have been reading differing reports.
Surely, his knees won't last for two years.
Agreed. thats right wing for 10 years sorted
Cavani of 3 to 4 years ago. Not so sure he would now.
No it’s not. Have to disagree with this. Biggest issues I think are CB & CDM.
No idea what is going on at this club at the moment.
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