Eden Hazard to Real Madrid?

When did that "doesnt do it against the big teams" become such a go to slogan? It sounds like anyone outside of Lionel Messi has it used against them. Its madness.
 
He has openly stated that he is not as ambitious as some of the other top players. I find it to be a big issue with him.
I think these quotes were misunderstood a lot. He said doesn't have a goalscorer's mindset like Messi and Ronaldo and that is simply a correct self-assessment. He's a different type of player and in exchange brings things to the table most goalscoring forwards don't (not meaning Messi here, of course). He also said in the same interview that he wants to become better every day.
I have thought about this formation. And indeed both Isco and James would work very well. However it requires 2 CFs who are good on the ball and we have none. Costa is somewhat okay doing this role but not good enough to do it at an elite level.
I think Pedro would fit, but yeah, that's certainly a problem. Perhaps if Costa leaves and Chelsea buys someone similar to Alexis as his replacement.
 
He could be a lot better than what he is. At times it feels like he doesn't push himself enough to become the best.

Nah hes one of the best, but people only value goals and individual play these days
 
2,358-minute scoreless run...I suppose that's one way of not playing.

Obviously it was an appalling season but ignoring the mitigating factors is silly. He was playing through a hip injury and the team was forced to rely on him because of poor results. A lot of blame has to fall on his shoulders, not least because the slow start to the season was in part due to his coming back out from the summer out of shape, but it's also true that once he was fit again he was very good-something like 4 goals in 5 games to finish the (meaningless) season, including THAT goal against Spurs.
 
Why does everyone around these parts act like if Real Madrid are some pauper team? Outmuscled by the PL? They have been in the top 3 of richest teams in the world every year for the last decade and with the top spot in several of those years. They have their own TV deal and their kit deal is up for renewal in 2018. They can pay Chelsea for Hazard if they want to.

I don't think they should though. They have James, Isco, Bale and Ronaldo (granted he is on the decline). What they need is complement for Casemiro and a true center forward that can improve on Morata/Benzema.
 
Hazard styled his game on Zidane. He's not going to play like Cristiano Ronaldo. His decision making on the pitch is all about the "what's best for the team" rather than individual glory.

People want him to score 30/40 every season & he's never going to play that way. He'll rather dominate games while contributing with 15-20 decisive moments every season.

I wasn't comparing him to Ronaldo, but for what it's worth he has nowhere the impact that Zidane used to have on his teams either.
 
Imo many people just miss a significant part of what he's so good at. So he already is a lot better than said people think.

What is it that he's so good at that goes under the radar?

Nah hes one of the best, but people only value goals and individual play these days

I think that depends on how restrictive you are when defining the best. He's not in my top 5 in the world in terms of players when looking at wingers/attacking mids.
 
What is it that he's so go
His style of playmaking; unhinging the opponent's defensive structure while helping his team penetrate. I tried to explain my opinion on that in the Hazard thread.
 
I think these quotes were misunderstood a lot. He said doesn't have a goalscorer's mindset like Messi and Ronaldo and that is simply a correct self-assessment. He's a different type of player and in exchange brings things to the table most goalscoring forwards don't (not meaning Messi here, of course). He also said in the same interview that he wants to become better every day.
But there were also quotes from his father and Mourinho too. Something on the lines of he is a simple boy and does not really want superstardom. Also, he has not gotten any better since he joined really. His stats are almost the same as they were in his first season.

I think Pedro would fit, but yeah, that's certainly a problem. Perhaps if Costa leaves and Chelsea buys someone similar to Alexis as his replacement.
That would be a brilliant front three indeed. Maybe someone like Mertens could be a good short term solution too.
 
His style of playmaking; unhinging the opponent's defensive structure while helping his team penetrate. I tried to explain my opinion on that in the Hazard thread.

Will give it a read and see how it fits with my own assessment
 
In two minds. I want him to leave Chelsea but feel we need players like these in this league.
 
Hopefully this happens.

Chelsea won't be able to replace him with a player of the same quality.

I guess they will have to change to a 2 striker system, Morata and Lukaku could be a good front 2, with a playmaker like Bernardo Silva behind them.
 
Chelsea will want a crazy amount of money (£90+ million).

Really cannot see this happening. Think the days of Madrid just plucking the worlds best players from other top clubs are gone because of today's prices.
 
Courtois and Hazard would be excellent, stuff of dreams actually. There is no replacement for Hazard
 
Chelsea will want a crazy amount of money (£90+ million).

Really cannot see this happening. Think the days of Madrid just plucking the worlds best players from other top clubs are gone because of today's prices.
Madrid will pay it if they enter muppet mode.
 
Even though I don't rate him near as high as he is generally rated, I don't think there's many - if any - they can sign to replace him were he to leave. He obviously provides pace and dribbling ability as a winger, respectable goal tally, but above all he's basically the only player who can creatively play when Fabregas is on the bench. Maybe somebody like Bernardo Silva given the same artistic licence to roam like Hazard?
 
In two minds. I want him to leave Chelsea but feel we need players like these in this league.
Agree and disagree, Sanchez, Hazard and potentially Costa would leave a hole in our top talents, however, its the EPL we will get our new stars, even if we have to wait on potential with the likes of Jesus and Pogba etc.
 
I had a preconceived idea of his style after a few games with Chelsea, so a few days ago when the rumors started again, I saw a few videos from youtube to get a general idea.
I know that is not the best way to value a player but I wasn´t impressed. Basically always makes the same play, run with the ball dribbling two or three rivals and then pass it.I think he lacks goal. Very good player, but I do not think it's worth 90 or 100 million. I can´t see him becoming a super scorer. I prefer Dybala, Alli, or even risk for Mbappe or Dembele.
 
I had a preconceived idea of his style after a few games with Chelsea, so a few days ago when the rumors started again, I saw a few videos from youtube to get a general idea.
I know that is not the best way to value a player but I wasn´t impressed. Basically always makes the same play, run with the ball dribbling two or three rivals and then pass it.I think he lacks goal. Very good player, but I do not think it's worth 90 or 100 million. I can´t see him becoming a super scorer. I prefer Dybala, Alli, or even risk for Mbappe or Dembele.

He's not a goalscorer, he's a playmaker. I've argued that's why I think he's a level below players like Neymar etc. You'd still be buying probably the best player in our league when on form, but you'd need someone else to score the goals.
 
Lel, everyone can do that. Am I right?

Of course not. It is difficult to find a player who is able to face the opponent constantly. However at this point in his career I thought he would have reached a higher level
 
When did that "doesnt do it against the big teams" become such a go to slogan? It sounds like anyone outside of Lionel Messi has it used against them. Its madness.

Yeh, because not performing against an elite team, like you performed against Sunderland or Hull, is a remarkable and completely unpredictable scenario that top class players should never allow to happen /sarcasm
 
The state of Chelsea fans this season, I hope they take Hazard and Courtouis, while replacing them with Zaha and Butland. Costa's already half way to China.
 
I had a preconceived idea of his style after a few games with Chelsea, so a few days ago when the rumors started again, I saw a few videos from youtube to get a general idea.
I know that is not the best way to value a player but I wasn´t impressed. Basically always makes the same play, run with the ball dribbling two or three rivals and then pass it.I think he lacks goal. Very good player, but I do not think it's worth 90 or 100 million. I can´t see him becoming a super scorer. I prefer Dybala, Alli, or even risk for Mbappe or Dembele.

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Dele Alli over Hazard? My word.
 
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Dele Alli over Hazard? My word.
Well, I suppose it's a matter of taste. Although I think that Alli is quite underrated.
Last year Hazard scored 7 goals and gave 6 assists. Ali 10 and 11.
This year the numbers are similar although slightly better for Alli.
7 goals and 6 assists are very poor numbers for someone who would cost 100 million and would be 27 years old in his first season in Madrid.
That's why I would rather invest in someone much younger
 
:DYes please, Zidane, take Hazard along with Courtouis too.

That'll weaken Chelsea tremendously, since Costa'll probably go to China this summer.

But, on a neutral point of view, Premier League will be duller Hazard-less.
 
I had a preconceived idea of his style after a few games with Chelsea, so a few days ago when the rumors started again, I saw a few videos from youtube to get a general idea.
I know that is not the best way to value a player but I wasn´t impressed. Basically always makes the same play, run with the ball dribbling two or three rivals and then pass it.I think he lacks goal. Very good player, but I do not think it's worth 90 or 100 million. I can´t see him becoming a super scorer. I prefer Dybala, Alli, or even risk for Mbappe or Dembele.
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That second goal is brilliant from start to finish. Hazard was made to counter-attack.
 
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