But he never was caught stealing anything? Did he?The article says Woodward was once a Liverpool fan. That explains everything
Ed Woodward 2019 - Until all Arctic ice melts edition
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No way?!?The article says Woodward was once a Liverpool fan. That explains everything
We know Ole was, but always thought Woodward tells everyone he has support United since he was young?
Looking at the past 6 years, the theory of Woodward being a secret Liverpool mole put in to destroy our club seems very plausible now.
Surely nobody could be a destructive.
That really would wrap the whole thing up nicely. Hand over the club to the glazers on debt, take charge of it then run it into the ground being paid millions a yearThe article says Woodward was once a Liverpool fan. That explains everything
It was announced that Woodward was becoming CEO in February 2013, months before the window started. He's rightly seen as largely responsible for that shit show of a transfer window, actually I think he's always got away with the Moyes appointment when surely he (effectively acting as Moyes' boss) would have at least been liaised before Moyes was given the job.
Scousers will have his statue outside Anfield once his tenure with us is over.
Bizarre claims.
Ha! Yep, best avoided. Doesn't achieve anything.
Woodward does have a very punchable face though.
Grim isn't it. I wonder what level of input the Glazers do have on footballing matters. Is this just Ed on a massive possessive ego trip? I guess it could have been initially. But now the Glazers are attempting to minimise risk by minimising spending.Ed took over a club that were champions. Spent £1bn in 6 years. Today we're in 12th, 2 points above relegation.
It's a bizarre claim that the incoming CEO who was already executive vice chairman might at least have some involvement in the appointment of a new manager? I didn't say it was mostly his fault or that he was the main figure I just feel it's always been a bit weird that he's completely absolved of that given he already had such a senior position and it was a feck up that is completely consistent with his contributions since.
If there's any sense then it'll be a landslide result, and good firm kick up the arse for Ed.
But let's face it he'd have left years ago if football performance counted for anything, so it's pointless, he leaves when the Glazers do, and until that happens we'll just continue to lurch from one disaster to the next.
I truly hope we see sponsors leaving in their droves when their contracts are up, season tickets been hard to sell, no CL money, transfer fees going up, etc, that way we might finally be shut of them, and be able to start again.
Didn't Molde need a decision on Ole as their season was about to start?
Utterly depressing article.
It's somewhat bizarre that 6 years after we're going to start pretending that Woodward played a big part in selecting Moyes.
In terms of the shambles of a transfer summer, read the interviews with Moyes..From my point of view it's pretty clear that Moyes was insisting on players that were out of reach.
We apparently failed to get the first choice managers though so not to bizarre, did he pitch them or was it still gill who was half way out the door?
That's usually the consequences of poor planning, Fergie retiring came as a shock to the majority at the club
He told people early in they year I seem to recall giving them months to sort it out when the transition from gill to knobhead was already under way.
Months
The transition wasn't, as far as i recall from his book, already under the way.
Months
The transition wasn't, as far as i recall from his book, already under the way.
It’s enough time to come with better than Moyes
My original post was taking issue with someone trying to absolve Woodward from blame for the first window and pinning it on Ferguson, Gill and Moyes (I would say that's more of a leap given two of those three retired that summer). If Woodward wasn't significantly to blame for the absolute shitfest that was that summer then what was the urgent business he briefed he was flying back from Australia for? Making the teas for Ferguson and Gill while they did the transfer work?
Who spent £4m than Fellaini's release clause because he left it so late, who kept putting the same bid in for Leighton Baines and who tried to spin it that 3 imposters had turned up at La Liga's headquarters trying to sign Ander Herrera? My only point about the Moyes appointment was not that he would have had a key role but that poster was trying to absolve him from the 2013 window and the Moyes appointment, in my view he and Moyes were both responsible for the mess of the 2013 window and to believe that he had no involvement (even if it was a small one with Moyes clearly being Ferguson's recommendation) in Moyes getting the job seems a bit unrealistic. I never said he played a big part but feel free to think that supposing that the incoming CEO and current executive vice chairman might have some sort of input in the choice of manager is bizarre.
I don't see why it's such a leap, given how early clubs generally start planning for the summer it's hardly easy to walk into it with a new manager. Fergie was keen on bringing Thiago to the club, Moyes didn't fancy the deal as he didn't know all that much about him, wanted to scout him. Everything was poorly planned
In terms of the Fellaini release clause, £4mill is feck all, but the reason we didn't sign him early on is fairly simple:
"You can ask my staff - the last thing I wanted was for Marouane Fellaini to be my first signing," Moyes told Radio 5 live. "I knew, coming from my old club, the look was never going to be good.
We spent ages going after players that Moyes wanted, completely unrealistic targets.
I used to think Ed Woodward was a good CEO/financial guy. But he's not. He's harming the medium- and long-term financial future of our club. He's shit and needs to go.
The story goes that Woodward has a football source, somebody that makes personal recommendations to him, and he considers the players. Fred could quite easily be one of those players. It would explain why Jose never played him, along with Mkhitaryan previously.
Of course he was "involved". This idea that just one person is responsible for any decision at the club is bizarre and frankly not a constructive way of arguing. That was why I was being satiric in my first post.
That said: its pretty much a fact that the Glazers/Woodward took Sir Alex advice on who would be his successor. And Gill executed it. Just read one of Sir Alex books.
And at that time who was Woodward to veto it then? The horror if he had, If Sir Alex had refused to be on the Board of Advisors and said that the club had refused his advice.
There needs to be some historical perspective here and not just hate for Woodward turning into plainly stupid allegations.
Dont forget the "Chosen One"-banner either, its not like we as fans were against what happened either. To moan about it in retrospect and argue that Woodward should have acted differently somehow, is completely stupid. Sorry, but it really is.
If you want to play the blame game Woodward has more responsibility for the latter three appointments. But feck me if they have not been done with a major input from our Board of Advisors. They still wield a lot of power at the club.
So Woodward has a Dominic Cummings that controls him now? I am sorry, but what a lot of BS. With all due respect.
Seriously, what are the positives of Ed's time as CEO? Not calling him out, a genuine question. Maybe revamping the youth set up slightly, but we won't see the fruits of that labour yet, so we'll have to wait on that.
But in 6 years, what are the positive aspects?
But in 6 years, what are the positive aspects?
I would have thought that him getting the Glazers to spend like drunken sailors for the last 5/6 years is a positive.
And be in 12th position?
Yeah because we've been 12th for 6 years haven't we?
But you said spend over 5/6 years, so for that I would have as a minimum expected us to be in the current top 3 positions and not have to be relying on Academy who aren't ready.
But my apologies, I can go through each season of the past 5/6 years and put where we finished in the league? Or I can say, we've been s**t and no where near competing! Up to you?!
Err, Moyes targetted Fabregas, so Thiago would definitely have fitted.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/brazil-man-united-squad-astonished-jose-mourinhos-treatment-player/
Reports last year from Brazil suggest the opposite.
Or maybe don't ask people for positives if you're just gonna come back with a smart arse reply.
Or, people actually reply with a positive?
Only a friggin eejit would think what I suggested wasn't a positive.
Can't make this shit up
I know Bale was set for Real Madrid, but other than him why were players such as Fabregas, Kroos, Thiago so unrealistic? We were the top dogs in England if not the world at the time, these players could have been closed.
Maybe they did not want to play under an average manage like Moyes?