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Duncan Castles : Jose Mourinho on collision course with Ed Woodward over Manchester United transfers
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I think that's had a big effect on us not getting him. It's now a test of character for Woody to perform otherwise I thing we need a DOF as Woody is obviously brilliant at getting sponsors so let him do that...!
Oh I'm sure Mourinho has discussed this with Ed and I think nothing has been done. Like I said. Mourinho is ruthless and he knows how to win the league. It doesn't matter what he has to do in order to achieve that goal and we all knew that when he signed. I think the club have wasted away fortunes on past it players and rejects from RM and now Mourinho is looking at solid players. Experienced players and I genuinely think with the players mentioned above we will be up there. 2nd season with Mourinho at all his previous clubs have seen him and his teams win major honours. I trust him.
I'm not sure about how accurate this article is but would like to say am somewhat concerned about how little transfer activity there has been regarding United.
Less than 40 days left until the EPL returns and we've only signed Lindelof unless you count Traore as well. Yes the transfer window closes end of August but you'd think after how late last summers signings took to get done and how it effected the slow buildup/start to the league that Woodward+Mourinho would like to be on top of things this time around.
...ffs just please have them done in a timely manner is all I'm saying
Less than 40 days left until the EPL returns and we've only signed Lindelof unless you count Traore as well. Yes the transfer window closes end of August but you'd think after how late last summers signings took to get done and how it effected the slow buildup/start to the league that Woodward+Mourinho would like to be on top of things this time around.
...ffs just please have them done in a timely manner is all I'm saying
The optimist in me never thought what had led Jose to leave his previous clubs would happen here, the pessimist though feared this would happen once the Griezmann deal fell through. 50/50 now which way this goes, we either get Jose's 2nd/3rd choice signings through the door asap or face a terrible season resulting in needing another manager in 12 months time
What I would say though is we're clearly not the only side struggling to get deals done this summer, City with Mendy/Walker, Chelsea with Bakayoko, while I'm not concerned with their signings fair play to Liverpool and Arsenal for managing to conclude some deals
What I would say though is we're clearly not the only side struggling to get deals done this summer, City with Mendy/Walker, Chelsea with Bakayoko, while I'm not concerned with their signings fair play to Liverpool and Arsenal for managing to conclude some deals
The merry-go-round hasn't really begun yet. The later the transfers, the more spent on the player & the more the agents get. It's not in their interest to conclude deals early.
Liverpool, like united, have made just one major signing and arsenal haven't actually concluded the Lacazette signing.
I honestly don't blame Woodward at all for not wanting to spend the sort of sums being quoted for Morata and Perisic
I agree. Castles' definitely close to Mendes & Mourinho camp but he's not equipped with all the real info. Let say he was given 10% of real info. That's plenty in the journalists' world where they make money by making up bs. Castles as time prove wrote plenty of off mark bs too. Remember Mata, Blind, Darmian, Rojo... were on Castles' selling list. Castles can misinform too.
If anything, my guess is Castles' playing a good cop & bad cop role. He was given real info at times but other time he has to do dirty job too. It maybe just plain clear as it looks or Mourinho just has Castle to send the media to a goose chase. People are easy to get dragged down by negativity but recover from negativity may give a psychological boost even stronger than smooth sailing. What if the people working with these deals are confident, and the signings are in final stage. The club just want to be in position of control other than getting led by the press. I meant this summer, there seem to be plenty of conflict ITK info, which seem like the club actively brief (to be seen)wrong/honest info.
And he shouldn't. We generally overpay for players but especially Perisic's fee is ridiculous
Very encouraging Woodward appears to have managed to negotiate Rooney's exit from New Zealand. These so called "telephones", and this curious invention "the Internet" seem to make a real difference. I'm proud our Dear Leader apparently has such mastery of modern technology, it surely gives us a real edge over our rivals.
They've only concluded one each.
I've supported Mourinho throughout but I don't like what he's done here.
Creating a me vs them attitude between him and the board will make his reign here very short.
Even if he has problems, the press should be the last place he goes to.
Does anyone think Gill and Fergie's relationship was always rosy?
In his autobiography, he said they had lots of arguments but we knew nothing of it.
Exactly. I have supported Jose but if this is the route he wants to take with all silly leaks then it will go downhill very fast. Don't think he will get any club like ManUtd where he gets to choose the players he wants, at Chelsea he had that power but they also signed with players that Jose didn't want to.
Love the way everybody has jumped to the conclusion that it must be Jose that's said something.
Especially when we have seen the source and it was not Jose
It's always like this on redcafe. Negative news - 100% true, positive news - must be bs.
To be fair, it is all across the media.. not just from Castles. So someone clearly wanted the information to be out there.
Didn't they quoted the original article from Castles?
This is transfer window is up there with dithering Dave's. Absolutely shocking the leaks in the press, trying to deal with RM after what we did with the De Gea move. It's all fecking shambles.
They are all just repeating the same nonsense that deBrun made up.
Exactly.
We're linked with a player: No source, it's clearly bullsh*t
Castle's reports Jose ran over a puppy and plans to move United to China and re-brand us as AFC Shenzhen: 100% true, no question.
Even if he did leak it, so what? Ed is either doing a good job or a bad job. If it's a good job this is clearly false and doesn't matter, if it's a bad job then the world knows what it already suspects. Really not worth getting your knickers in a twist over.
is it odd that I read things as the exact opposite on the caf?
Anything negative is usually a moment when caf posters lose their shit and call for journo's to be sacked and/or racist
Anything remotely positive the caf is out posting ideal team lines ups
Ha! Welcome to the modern world where everything is brilliant and rubbish with nothing in between!
Not having a proper academy and specially good scouting ends up being very expensive.
Looking at the players we are targeting and the players we are seemingly keeping (Fellaini,Lingard etc), I think it's pretty safe to assume that the shit house style of play Mourinho implemented last season will be maintained.
I would like to see him maintain the style of football we played in November till January, when we were creating 25 chances for game.
BBC has reported the same thing now. They don't publish without proper sources.
Yep
Castles: Deal for that player that the caf wants so much might be off
Caf: He knows nothing, the bald headed cnut!!
Castles: United are in for superstar player
Caf: Get in Woodward
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Yeah that was great. The sitting on a one goal lead bollocks that we adopted later in the season needs to be fecked off though. So so boring.
Even if that was true doesn't that tell you that your squad needs improving to be able to fight on multiple fronts?
My point still stands - you finished 6th for a reason.
Perhaps but do they usually do that with a Castles article?
I don't know man. But all these articles are based on the fact that Castles is a Mourinho mouthpiece which was proven to be wrong earlier in this thread.
Credit where it's due, man: It was Moyes who insisted we bought all them Laser Pods or whatever they're called. I bet Woody can even use those things to somehow communicate directly with José, it's truly amazing what you can do these days.
Fair enough. All I know is that based on everything I've read on Jose, he surely can't be content with what is going on right now or the side in general.. it just doesn't make any sense to me. He's a winner, he's ruthless, he's uber competitive.. he gets rid of players and signs them by the dozen.. for him to be relaxed and happy with the state of our squad which dragged its way to 6th, when he wants us competing with the best in the world just doesn't make any sense to me.
hilarious that so many people moan about Rooney's salary and not Woodward. He has one job in the summer: get the players the manager asks for... not go swanning off to watch rugby
Mourinho said at the end of April: "The group, when we meet again for next season, is a strong group. The new players, when they will arrive, will find a group more ready to go for big things."
Jose wanted the things to be done early? Well. It's 5th of July and nothing happened at the transfer market when it comes to our lack of goals last seasons. So I guess that nobody is satisfied with the situation. The clubs starts this - sorry to say so - PR-journey to the States and we have actually the same team as last season.
Maybe the club made three mistakes:
(a) Thought that the Griezmann-transfer is totally safe because of the exit clause. Nobody expected the player to cancel the whole thing.
(b) Thought that Real will listen to us, being interested in selling us players they don't need. (They still seem to hate us since the DeGea-fax.)
(c) Had no real transfer-plan without Griezmann and without Real players.
Maybe I am totally wrong though. Probably I am. But that's the way I think about it these days (without having the time to read all the stories and rumours in the papers.)
Jose wanted the things to be done early? Well. It's 5th of July and nothing happened at the transfer market when it comes to our lack of goals last seasons. So I guess that nobody is satisfied with the situation. The clubs starts this - sorry to say so - PR-journey to the States and we have actually the same team as last season.
Maybe the club made three mistakes:
(a) Thought that the Griezmann-transfer is totally safe because of the exit clause. Nobody expected the player to cancel the whole thing.
(b) Thought that Real will listen to us, being interested in selling us players they don't need. (They still seem to hate us since the DeGea-fax.)
(c) Had no real transfer-plan without Griezmann and without Real players.
Maybe I am totally wrong though. Probably I am. But that's the way I think about it these days (without having the time to read all the stories and rumours in the papers.)
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If there is any manager who is touchy when it comes to transfer business it is Jose.. he has a real destructive streak about it because he knows good transfer windows are key to how effective his management is, he isn't the turn shit into gold type of manager.
I think you're spot on there. Plus the Lions tour was too good an opportunity to miss for Ed, probably didn't help in trying to change course when things weren't going as smoothly as we'd hoped.
Once clubs go on their summer tours, things tend to go largely on hold as no one wants their pre-season preparations disrupted with talk of departures, so we are now probably looking at deadline day type stuff.
Jose will be furious and I honestly think this could lead to his departure one way or the other.
And we know this because Jose has quit on a transfer tantrum before?
Also no other manager is upset their transfer plans go significantly awry? (Though I personally think it is still early to be complaining.)
The article comes from a man who seems to be mendes and mourinho's go to press guy, do you really believe he will write something like this without jose's consent.