Duncan Castles : Jose Mourinho on collision course with Ed Woodward over Manchester United transfers

This is more a hit peace than a news story. Its too one sided and lacks balance.

Admittedly players haven't come in but to say Ed is doing nothing is simply not true because there aren't many clubs that have signed many players yet. Selling clubs are asking for ridiculous amounts so the whole market is a bit slow
 
BluesJr said:
Maybe Mourinho should be targeting players we could actually get without much of a fuss instead of trying to deal with notoriously stubborn clubs like Chelsea, Inter Milan, and Real Madrid? That should come into your thinking when picking players, we needed to be smarter from the beginning and it doesn't look like that's happened. Buying players from the 2nd or 3rd tier of clubs is the way to do business as has been proven time and time again by the likes of Real, Bayern, even City. We did it last year perfectly so I don't see why we didn't stick with the same strategy.
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Here is son of @Tiresome.
 
nokillingmoths said:
Yeah this is a bad sign. Jose was definitely involved in that article.

I guess things are going badly, but the market is a nightmare this season. City are the only team to have really done any business and one position was a goalkeeper, which they paid very handsomely for. The other wqs done before all the talk of £100m players and everyone being worth about £60m. Its a bit mental but we really do need players in if we want to challenge for the elite tournaments. If that means overpaying we probably need to just do it.
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It's not that I take either of sides (I find the early blame on Woodward and the witchhunt idiotic, there's still plenty of time but at the same time this article is probably something akin to what Conte has done recently, i.e. put pressure on whoever is responsible for bringing people in), but isn't this shit being a common theme for us recently? I mean, every window it's 'a nightmare', in January nobody wants to move, last season it was the Euro, next season it will be the WC, then we're not in the CL but EL instead, there's this, there's that. Still didn't stop us from bringing in players of Pogba, Zlatan, ADM or Miki's calibre.
 
BluesJr said:
Maybe Mourinho should be targeting players we could actually get without much of a fuss instead of trying to deal with notoriously stubborn clubs like Chelsea, Inter Milan, and Real Madrid? That should come into your thinking when picking players, we needed to be smarter from the beginning and it doesn't look like that's happened. Buying players from the 2nd or 3rd tier of clubs is the way to do business as has been proven time and time again by the likes of Real, Bayern, even City. We did it last year perfectly so I don't see why we didn't stick with the same strategy.
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Dortmund and Juve are as big, if not bigger than Chelsea and Inter Milan. Claiming Juve is a 2nd tier club is laughable.
 
If it was anyone else I'd just dismiss this straight away as being hogwash.

Not that it's THAT big an issue though. After all, Jose probable is upset that we haven't landed more of our targets, and Woodward is gormless looking enough to warrant people taking a pop at him... but ultimately, we're not going to sack Jose anytime soon, nor will we get rid of big Ed (though I still wonder if the club shouldn't have him solely on Commercial deals and someone else tying up the transfers), and it's just a matter of time before we do actually buy players... so yeah, it'll all be forgotten about come the end of the window.
 
Castia said:
That's 2 reports on this issue released in the last hour, there could be something in this.

Well Ed better get it right else Jose will be leaving, maybe not straight away but he will go into sulk mode before turning on the board.
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There could be journos inventing stuff and copying from each other.
 
Duncan with jose is always right. Its been proven all over the years. Dont doubt this at all. Conte used the media in a similar way and is close to getting his signings. I think Ed might right now not willing to pay inflated fees and this is frustrating jose.
 
kundalini said:
The arrogance of the modern elite football manager is breath-taking. Always after another £40m, £50m new signing. Never any thought about what happened to Leeds, Portsmouth and numerous other clubs that paid a heavy price for financial recklessness. Chasing players that are likely to be difficult to recruit. Wanting players from direct rivals. Never taking responsibility for results.

It's embarrassing.
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That's modern football though. English clubs have money to burn, Everton are well on the way to spending £100m already the window as officially been open 2 days. Southampton turning down £60m bids for a decent yet not world class centre back. Scary stuff.
 
Ban said:
There could be journos inventing stuff and copying from each other.
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Its duncan castles, its like Jose himself typing that article. If it was any other rag i would dismiss it, its like di marzio on transfers.
 
If what it says is entirely true, then Woodward needs to sort it out, and Jose is right to call him out on it because he's the one that would be in the firing line.
 
Can understand the frustration of not being able to sign more players, but equally I'm glad we're not spending stupid money just for the sake of it.

Whilst it would be nice to have completed all/most signings by now, I'll be more concerned if we haven't brought anyone else in by the end of July. Still plenty of time left & it's not like other teams are being extremely active in the window so far.
 
Maradona10 said:
Duncan with jose is always right. Its been proven all over the years. Dont doubt this at all. Conte used the media in a similar way and is close to getting his signings. I think Ed might right now not willing to pay inflated fees and this is frustrating jose.
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Which is simply false. He's linked us to Neymar, Aguero etc. lately. Not everything he says is gospel, still take it with a pinch of salt.
 
devilish said:
TBF I can't blame Ed for not wanting to spending ridiculous money on the manager's pets. We've had our fingers burnt too often because of that (Fellaini, Bastian, Rooney's contract extension etc).

I expected Mou to come with new names who'll do us good without breaking the bank. The club has shown, time and time again that its willing to break the bank for an absolute star. However it hesistates when that is done on some Real's reserve.
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If the board aren't prepared to back Mourinho's judgement, because of mistakes that Moyes and Van Gaal made, then we might as well give up any hopes of winning major titles again until we get a new board.
 
Predictable.

Maybe this is the kick up the arse Woodward needs. He oversaw a disastrous transfer window in 2013 and since then we've hugely over-paid for players and ended up with a lot of dross. The whole recruitment operation appears to have left a lot to be desired.
 
Ban said:
There could be journos inventing stuff and copying from each other.
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Maybe. I guess we'll never know for sure but when multiple sources start reporting the same story there's usually been a briefing. Especially when both stories release so close together.
 
We're really in trouble if we don't sign at least two goalscorers for the starting XI especially now that Ibrahimovic is gone too. Forget about Perisic, he isn't needed.
 
I don't have anything against Ed, he did really well for us last window, but I still think we'd be better off with a DOF or something of that sort to strictly focus on transfers.
 
Womp said:
Which is simply false. He's linked us to Neymar, Aguero etc. lately. Not everything he says is gospel, still take it with a pinch of salt.
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Neymar confirmed the approach, Aguero had a talk with the owners, he also linked us to hart and schmichel before De gea was set to stay. Believe it or not, he is always right in regards to jose.
 
Think a lot of journalists read the fans forums and just write articles to pander to the fans mood at that particular time. Not saying it is in this case as Castles does seem to be Jose's mouthpiece, but think it is the case a lot of the time.
 
shaky said:
If the board aren't prepared to back Mourinho's judgement, because of mistakes that Moyes and Van Gaal made, then we might as well give up any hopes of winning major titles again until we get a new board.
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Or we could chase targets that are not very difficult to obtain from clubs who are not selling clubs
 
Meh I suspect that at the very least Morata signs this week
 
Could be a really big week ahead then, before we head out to the US.

Get Morata done before the tour and things will hopefully calm down. If this rumbles on though it could get ugly.
 
Maradona10 said:
Neymar confirmed the approach, Aguero had a talk with the owners, he also linked us to hart and schmichel before De gea was set to stay. Believe it or not, he is always right in regards to jose.
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Where did Neymar confirm it? Castles claimed Neymar told his friends United would activate his release clause, it was rubbish. Do you also have proof Aguero spoke with the owners? I find it highly unlikely he'd consider a move to us.
 
Jose should be annoyed

Ed Woodward would love Mourinho to be like half the people on here "mehhh it's only July mehhh" but that's the sort of attitude that only leads to failure.

Woodward is doing a horrible job this Summer. One signing, US tour days away and apparently he's still on a beach in New Zealand.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Or we could chase targets that are not very difficult to obtain from clubs who are not selling clubs
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What targets are that? easy targets may not be that good or not ready or may not want to come. Also when we are interested in a player 5-10 millon is added to his value. We got lindelof at 31 million when we were quoted 45 million in january.
 
Randall Flagg said:
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So instead of going for players that we want, we should just go for anyone that we can get? Sounds like a great plan.
 
I have felt for a while now that if we don't sign players pretty soon then Jose is going to self combust and it will be like his last season at Chelsea. The squad is nowhere near good enough right now
 
Ah it's just preparing us fans for the extortionate fees we are about to pay. Create a panic with the fans and ultimately we'll just say feck it, sign anyone at any cost, just get em signed.
 
Maradona10 said:
What targets are that? easy targets may not be that good or not ready or may not want to come. Also when we are interested in a player 5-10 millon is added to his value. We got lindelof at 31 million when we were quoted 45 million in january.
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Thats not my job

But I would be shocked if there was not easier to obtain players at the same level as Persic, Morata and Matic
 
Woodward is obviously under instructions by the Glazers to be far more aggressive and not end up getting financially mugged as we have done in previous windows when we had no CL football to offer and had to pay over the odds to get new recruits.

Was only a matter of time before Jose started falling out with Ed. Fergie would never have attacked David Gil in the media. But hopefully Ed can land some names within next week so everyones happy but not much he can do if Real are making unrealistic demands for Morata etc
 
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