If they have given money to israel , link it please. If this is true, I wont go anymore
Dubai a contender to buy Man Utd
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
If they have given money to israel , link it please. If this is true, I wont go anymore
They allow abortionyes, where it is illegal to be homosexual. Super advanced.
What's that got to do with homosexuality being a criminal offence in Dubai?They allow abortion
Neither I nor anyone else in this thread have accused Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum of that. Your post is therefore irrelevant drivel. Have a nice day.Oh yeah they did.
Tongue in cheek with glazers funding the republicans who in turn are curtailing or even banning abortion.
America has been funding Isreal since the 90s, and they still are to this day. They send financial aid to many nations all over the world, as do we Brits. I don't know why that makes our countries evil, though.
Looking forward to finding out from @VidaRed very soon
You'd be hard pushed to find any United fans who are in favour of the continued Glazer family ownership. They are surely the most despised people in the red half of Manchester - this is a given but also not really relevant to this thread, which is largely a debate about a potential Dubai ownership vs all other possible ownership options. If United are truly up for sale, there will be a great many suitors, the vast majority of which will not be nation states with appalling human rights records.
The way some are going on, you would think we can just cherry pick an honest, charity working, multi billionaire Man Utd fan.
Even if it did, it would not be relevant to this thread, unless the UK/US Governments were considering purchasing Manchester United Football Club (they are not).
I hope you are not generalising on 350m people.
Avram Glazer chucked Biden half a million. It means little.
I couldn't agree more.
In what context?
America has been funding Isreal since the 90s, and they still are to this day. They send financial aid to many nations all over the world, as do we Brits. I don't know why that makes our countries evil, though.
Looking forward to finding out from @VidaRed very soon
Well, we all pay taxes to, so if a country is evil, every citizen of that country is evil if were gonna use that logic. If the Glazers themselves are giving money to Israel, its something different.
Worse, they donated to Bush and Trump.
The fans don't like the Glazers because they are bad owners who pocket a lot of the clubs money. It has nothing to do with them being Americans so that's not even a comparison. If we had American owners who were doing good no one will complain but yet the laws in America is one of the worse. A country were an adult can rape a kid and spend 30 days in jail.
Their country, their rules. In USA you can't have abortion in most states, billionaires sex trafficking etc. No country is perfect so get out of here with your holier than thou attitude.
States, royal families, countries, and the like should not be allowed to own football clubs, full stop.
Hope you join another club when this happens and make sure you take along negative fans we have had on here recently too.
I'm all for it, any Utd fan who's not can support someone else, give up your season ticket if you have one, let someone else take your place, let the rebuild of Utd begin
Okay newbie.
I find the attempts to disassociate morality from power very disingenuous.
The Glazers have supported some terrible politicians who have done terrible things. That is not the same as being the ones who do those terrible things. States have the power of life, death and freedom over their populace. The Glazers might well support executing gay people, they don't have that power.
The Glazers have supported some terrible politicians who have done terrible things. That is not the same as being the ones who do those terrible things. States have the power of life, death and freedom over their populace. The Glazers might well support executing gay people, they don't have that power.
My guess is that the figure quoted is what the Glazers want in their pocket, with the debt also being paid off in addition. Takes the total to nearer 4.5bn
This is an argument that no country should be allowed to own a football club, not an argument that they should. I do hope you realise that.
Even then it wouldn't be the same thing, as City came from nowhere to dominate simply due to cash.
United already have the status.
Why, do you get paid on here if you aren't a newbie? Being a regular here is probably your biggest achievement in life
Unless you think being new on this forum means one just started supporting United?
They have done it in different contexts before as the "friends of Israel". They were very close to Israel PM Olmert. But all of this is irrelevant, they have done what is worse, they were all in for endorsing and donating for the re-election of Bush, the person who was responsible for the suffering of 30m people in Iraq and responsible for the death of at least 300k lives. How horrible is that?
This is my last post in this thread, because I feel this thread will be closed anyway in few hours
.Most states? It's banned in 12 states. Billionaires sex trafficking?!
what in God's name are you waffling about?Yeah exactly beggars can't be choosers
The only “we have to consider it” are the Glazers - nobody else gets a say unfortunately.
I don’t care how much money one has, nobody is investing $5b into a sports team for the hell of it. It’s either to make money and for whom money isn’t an issue they’ll be some other ulterior motive.
Personally, I don't care much for the sportswashing concept. Will always think they are pigheaded backwards cnuts and if owning a football club makes them "better" that says more about us people than it does about them.
The Glazers can also go feck themselves, but my reasons are not even remotely linked to geopolitics either. They are a different type of cnut.
As far as the club is concerned we want and need them out. We don't want Dubai, but still need the Glazers out. I'm very much in the Ratcliffe camp but ultimately it's the Glazers that will sell to their highest bidder and I'll have either over them.
Human rights in Dubai won't change if they don't buy United, will they? If anything, their Western exposure should bring them under greater scrutiny. I for one am of the idea the World Cup won't sportswash Qatar but instead has made the world aware of how bloody mental they are given their comms re "expected fan behaviour". Bring it on I'd say, isolating them doesn't make things better for those stuck there.
The Glazers can also go feck themselves, but my reasons are not even remotely linked to geopolitics either. They are a different type of cnut.
As far as the club is concerned we want and need them out. We don't want Dubai, but still need the Glazers out. I'm very much in the Ratcliffe camp but ultimately it's the Glazers that will sell to their highest bidder and I'll have either over them.
Human rights in Dubai won't change if they don't buy United, will they? If anything, their Western exposure should bring them under greater scrutiny. I for one am of the idea the World Cup won't sportswash Qatar but instead has made the world aware of how bloody mental they are given their comms re "expected fan behaviour". Bring it on I'd say, isolating them doesn't make things better for those stuck there.
They have done it in different contexts before as the "friends of Israel". They were very close to Israel PM Olmert. But all of this is irrelevant, they have done what is worse, they were all in for endorsing and donating for the re-election of Bush, the person who was responsible for the suffering of 30m people in Iraq and responsible for the death of at least 300k lives. How horrible is that?
This is my last post in this thread, because I feel this thread will be closed anyway in few hours
Do you have a source for that? I had a quick look and found nothing, other than a few donations to Jewish charitable causes in America.
but still.. there are some options in between saint-hood and slave-states, though
I don`t think any British prime minister has the money to do so, and maybe they can`t whilst in power.
I'd hope in the face of close enough bids "authorities" can tilt it in the best direction. Problem is the best place to find a people's lobbyist is with local MPs. How do you get them to condemn Dubai while City's OK? You can always argue that's for the Stockport MP to shut up about.
Unless you are assuming 350mn banding together to buy the club, i really don't see how i am generalising them?
Let's see if any of you walk the talk. Start by not watching any of the World Cup.
This whole thread is a strawman argument, people pointing out issues with everyone like they have a choice to pick a really virtuous owner with no sins. Sadly snowflakes can't see it ( i hope this earns those lost points back).
When did the Glazers?