Draft About Nothing

[GodShaveTheQueen]

1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) xxx (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)

Block List: Ronaldo, Cristiano, Messi, Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Neeskens, Passarella, Kohler, Krol, Moore, Carlos Alberto, Nesta, Scirea, Facchetti, Batistuta, Garrincha, Figueroa, Eusebio, Charlton, Baresi, Maldini, Mascherano, Rivelino, Rugerri, Aguero, Neuer, Brehme, Rosato, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Forster, Clodoaldo

@Physiocrat @Šjor Bepo

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Michael shaves the queen

 

[Indnyc]

How does Javier Zanetti fit for this round?

 

[Šjor Bepo]

In case it comes round to me overnight I pick-

Juan Carlos Oblitas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_Oblitas

 

[Šjor Bepo]

1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista 5) J-C. Oblitas
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) xxx (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)

Block List: Ronaldo, Cristiano, Messi, Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Neeskens, Passarella, Kohler, Krol, Moore, Carlos Alberto, Nesta, Scirea, Facchetti, Batistuta, Garrincha, Figueroa, Eusebio, Charlton, Baresi, Maldini, Mascherano, Rivelino, Rugerri, Aguero, Neuer, Brehme, Rosato, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Forster, Clodoaldo

@BIG DUNK

 

[Šjor Bepo]

How does Javier Zanetti fit for this round?

played almost 100 games on the wing

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

How does Javier Zanetti fit for this round?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/javie...=&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=8&trainer_id=

There is 94 of his games as right winger, the same way Di Livio played on right in 4-4-2

Would you allow this and create a meltdown?

of course we allow it! we were wondering how long its going to take for someone to try Zanetti....

 

[Michaelf7777777]

Our United player will be JLingz

1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti (JLingz)
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) xxx (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Dangerous. I wonder if Zanetti will be played in a 352 and called as 343 winger which he's played only a handful of that 94. Drill in to game formation in same site and you get all sorts of anomalies. Some appearances, where he played as LCM and some where he doesn't feature at all. It's just nonsensical.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

I wonder if Zanetti will be played in a 352 and called as 343 winger

He doesn't have to play like a winger.

you can use the player in any position but lets say young Messi played as a goalkeeper at age of 19-21 but later peaked as a fullback, you can pick him for the gk spot and play him at fullback but you pick the 19-21 old Messi.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

He doesn't have to play like a winger.

Nonsense. He's had single digit appearances all through his career, some as substitute. Which period would you choose?

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

Nonsense. He's had single digit appearances all through his career, some as substitute. Which period would you choose?

Number of appearances per season don't matter as he would be judged as a right back and not winger as per Sjor's rules.

We'll probably choose the period where he and Maicon were in the same team. And let's be honest, period doesn't matter with Zanetti

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

We'll probably choose the period where he and Maicon were in the same team. And let's be honest, period doesn't matter with Zanetti

That's precisely the reason the rule is flawed. Manager can get away with a lot of leeway with a star player like Zanetti in a match, despite not fitting the rules.

For me Zanetti is not a winger, end of. His career peak doesn't support that. Can he be a winger? Probably. But was he? Definitely not. And single digit appearances doesn't prove shit.

This is a bullshit pick imo unless you have a back 4 behind him.

This is a fun Draft, so doesn't bother me overall, but my opinions don't change.

 

[Isotope]

Feck this. THen I have Zambrotta as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianluca_Zambrotta

1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti (JLingz)
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) Zambrotta (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)

 

[P-Nut]

All the top of the draft will be picking full backs that played on the wing for a game now.

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

Use this @BIG DUNK


1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista 5) 5) J-C. Oblitas
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti (JLingz)
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) Zambrotta (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

All the top of the draft will be picking full backs that played on the wing for a game now.

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éder_Aleixo_de_Assis

1980–1985 Atlético Mineiro 118 goals in 328 matches

He had another 66 goals for Gremio

 

[P-Nut]

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éder_Aleixo_de_Assis

1980–1985 Atlético Mineiro 118 goals in 328 matches

He had another 66 goals for Gremio

That doesn't look English to me

 

[Moby]

@harms did you edit Vava's wiki page?

There is an edit from a Russian IP Address on 23rd October and the edit was adding his goals for Vasco in the top right part of the page.

 

[harms]

@harms did you edit Vava's wiki page?

There is an edit from a Russian IP Address on 23rd October and the edit was adding his goals for Vasco in the top right part of the page.

Yes. It shouldn’t affect your pick, but I was absolutely baffled by the possibility

 

[harms]

Yeah, this round had become a complete farce now.

Pick a offensive player(retired) that scored less then 50/100 club goals! Find those underrated gems that contributed in other ways.
Wingers and 10s have to have less then 50 goals, all forwards less then 100 goals. Obviously there is going to be some borderline picks with wingers and side forwards, 10s and second strikers so in that case please check with the committee before picking.

How does Zanetti fit in here, in the original rules or even in the spirit of the round? I know I've been whiny about the likes of Vava and Eder, but at least this was a technicality. Zanetti pick doesn't make sense at all and is based on the rule that was introduced much later.

It's such a shame, because I absolutely loved this round and it finally was something different. I've spent a lot of time myself trying to create weird criteria for a huge board game draft and I've never thought of that and was quite envious about it.

 

[Zlatan 7]

Zanetti
And now late pick zambrotta

Never in my days of watching football did i class zanetti as a winger/forward

Just need himanv now to pick roberto Carlos as a winger with a late pick.

 

[Pythagoras]

My understanding:

All these fullbacks will need to be played in attack for our formation, yes? On the wing..?

plus, we can choose players who’ve actually scored more than 50/100 goals if their English wiki says they haven’t?

 

[Moby]

Yes. It shouldn’t affect your pick, but I was absolutely baffled by the possibility

Yeah some pages have missed entire club seasons altogether, have seen that quite a few times in the past. Appreciate the effort for fixing it.

 

[berbasloth4]

sure pick berbatov he played centre back once.

 

[Himannv]

1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista 5) 5) J-C. Oblitas
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti (JLingz)
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez 5) P. Rocha (AMP)
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) Zambrotta (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)


EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Rocha

 

[Zlatan 7]

20 year career and not a goal scored. Good job

 

[Moby]

Was looking at him. Good pick.

 

[harms]

Oh, I thought that someone picked Albertosi in a protest

 

[Gio]

There's no way Di Livio, Zanetti or Zambrotta should be considered as wingers or offensive players. Their appearances out wide in midfield were as wide midfielders, wing-backs or as side-central-midfielders in midfield trios. Serie A rarely does wingers.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

All these fullbacks will need to be played in attack for our formation, yes? On the wing..?

No, you can play them anywhere.

plus, we can choose players who’ve actually scored more than 50/100 goals if their English wiki says they haven’t?

Yes.

Also, your 8 hours are done

@oneniltothearsenal can pick. @Šjor Bepo @Stobzilla

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

There's no way Di Livio, Zanetti or Zambrotta should be considered as wingers or offensive players. Their appearances out wide in midfield were as wide midfielders, wing-backs or as side-central-midfielders in midfield trios. Serie A rarely does wingers.

Yep, that was my thinking as well at the start of the round till Di Livio got approved. All of this is on @berbasloth4

 

[Šjor Bepo]

@Isotope send a proof zambrotta played 50 games as a winger

 

[Šjor Bepo]

There's no way Di Livio, Zanetti or Zambrotta should be considered as wingers or offensive players. Their appearances out wide in midfield were as wide midfielders, wing-backs or as side-central-midfielders in midfield trios. Serie A rarely does wingers.

Di livio is a clear winger mate, defensive one but he played on the right in front of a fullback for majority of his career.
Zanetti obviously isnt a winger but we allowed to pick players that can play position but maybe that isnt their natural, thus the 50 cap rule which Zanetti destroys by a double.

As for wingers, personally i count right/left midfielders as wingers so di livio is a clear winger for me. I mean if those positions are not wingers then Beckham isnt one....

 

[Šjor Bepo]

We fecked up this round but not with the likes of Zanetti, rules were clear and i even explained before the first pickwas made that the window for those players is open.
Our mistake was the english wiki fiasco but thankfully majority of picks fit the original rule.

 

[berbasloth4]

di livio played right midfield the majority of his career and was his best position.

zanetti and zambrotta is ripping the piss

 

[Šjor Bepo]

1. Indy - 1) J. Cruyff 2) Rivaldo 3) M. Hummels 4) M. Rojo
2. Onenil 1) Zico 2) R. Baggio 3) Felix 4) Tostao
3. Big Dunk 1) M. van Basten 2) D. De Rossi 3) Everaldo 4) E. Albertosi
4. Physio- 1) G. Muller 2) A. Robben 3) H. Schumacher 4) S. Batista 5) 5) J-C. Oblitas (JLingz)
5. MSTQ 1) L. Matthaus 2. F. Gento 3) L. Riva 4) S. Mazzola 5) J. Zanetti (JLingz)
6. Zlatan 7 1) F. Rijkaard 2. Neymar 3) P. Lahm 4) L. Biglia 5) T. Brolin (#PP)
7. Himannv 1) Ronaldinho 2) D. Villa 3) E. Garay 4) E. Perez 5) P. Rocha (AMP)
8. Isotope 1) F. Puskás 2) C. Seedorf 3) Pumpido 4) R. Palacio 5) xxx (JLingz)
9. Stobzilla 1) R. Gullit 2) J. Giles 3) M. Bertini 4) G. Rivera 5) xxx
10. Berbasloth 1) R. Keane 2) Z. Ibrahimovic 3) S. Romero 4) P. Zabaleta 5) A. Di Livio (AM9)
11. Skizzo 1) Z. Zidane 2) T. Müller 3) R. Bonisegna 4) C. Kramer 5) L. Sharpe (AM9)
12. Moby 1) M. Platini 2) L. Suarez 3) A. Schurrle 4) F. Gago 5) Vava (AM9)
13. p-nut 1) L. Thuram 2) K. De Bruyne 3) B. Howedes 4) M. Klose 5) Eder (#PP)
14. harms 1) G. Best 2) D. Alves 3) M. Ozil 4) J. Boateng 5) R. Donadoni (#PP)
15. Enigma 1) Romario 2) E. Hazard 3) A. Domenghini 4) P. Mertesacker 5) B. Conti (#PP)
16. EAP 1) Xavi 2) F. Torres 3) K-H. Rummenigge 4) H-P. Briegel 5) M. Zagallo (JLingz)


@Stobzilla @Isotope @BIG DUNK

 

[harms]

I know one thing, I'll consider Zanetti (& co) a shit winger and Vava (& co) a goalless striker for the rest of this draft

Sharpe/Conti/Zagallo/Brolin for the win!

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

I know one thing, I'll consider Zanetti (& co) a shit winger and Vava (& co) a goalless striker for the rest of this draft

Except, he doesnt need to play as a winger.

Guess we'll have to repeat that a ton of times in the game threads

 

[Šjor Bepo]

Except, he doesnt need to play as a winger.

Guess we'll have to repeat that a ton of times in the game threads

even worse, a shit fullback.