Donny Van De Beek | he stays!

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Back training on his own, hopefully he can get back fit enough to seal a move a away and the club.

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Anything over 10m would be miraculous to be honest, especially considering the injury.
 
How is it a risk letting him go? Has he played 30 games in three years. Has he been effective in any of them? Let him go and give his minutes to Hannibal or Shoretire or Savage and see if they develop into a decent PL midfielder because all the evidence is that DVB will not.
If we can’t sign anyone of note because the takeover is still rumbling on when the season starts, then we'll need all the players we can get. Our squad was too thin last season and I can guarantee that Ten Hag would prefer having Van de Beek available rather than those ones you’ve mentioned
 
Feel he is destined to just get another injury and will end up taking up the Phil Jones shaped indent on the treatment table
 
This is the modern day United in a nutshell. We paid €35m for 60 appearances, costing us more than £580k an appearance, not including wages.

That 2020 summer transfer window is up there with the 2009 transfer window when we replaced Ronaldo with Owen, Obertan etc as worst in the clubs history.
 
£15m would be a great deal for him. I don't think I've ever seen a player be quite as useless at United, and I include the likes of Cleverly and Bebe.
 
£15m would be a great deal for him. I don't think I've ever seen a player be quite as useless at United, and I include the likes of Cleverly and Bebe.

Its really easy to forget hes even in our squad.
 
£15m would be a great deal for him. I don't think I've ever seen a player be quite as useless at United, and I include the likes of Cleverly and Bebe.

Cleverly had his moments. This guy has practically been invisible since he signed.
 
If we can’t sign anyone of note because the takeover is still rumbling on when the season starts, then we'll need all the players we can get. Our squad was too thin last season and I can guarantee that Ten Hag would prefer having Van de Beek available rather than those ones you’ve mentioned
It was thin in spots and not thin in others. We don't lack #10's. If we address CF, CM and GK, our squad isn't too thin.

Martial backup to new starter is better than martial starter.
Rashford/Garnacho LW, Sancho/Antony RW, Amad loan out.
Bruno, Eriksen, new CM, casemiro, McTominay midfield group for 3 positions (Bruno plays almost every game anyway).
Shaw/Malacia, dalot/AWB, Varane, Martinez, Lindelof CB, and Shaw who can cover at CB.

The biggest depth problem we have is currently McTominay is backup for Casemiro when he isn't a DM. CB if we sell Maguire we'll likely replace anyway. But #10, wing positions, fullbacks don't have depth issues.
 
We had a better version of him in Sabitizer who also showed fairly quickly that he wasn't what was needed in the PL. No real role for attacking midfielders who aren't particularly creative passers, mediocre athletically and whose entire value is based on goal scoring from midfield, effectively a midfield poacher.

I was for it if I'm remembering right because he was so damn good in the Champions League at times, but in hindsight, Klaassen struggling at Everton and doing okay elsewhere was probably the sign that this was a bad idea.
 
you would think that our standard contract would allow some sort of release clause, that if you aren't performing to expectations that you can be released. or you only receive full pay on completion of a certain amount of games. granted, some very elite players might not accept this but you can't build an elite team with sub-standard players we can't move on, and dvb was not an elite player when we signed him.
 
you would think that our standard contract would allow some sort of release clause, that if you aren't performing to expectations that you can be released. or you only receive full pay on completion of a certain amount of games. granted, some very elite players might not accept this but you can't build an elite team with sub-standard players we can't move on, and dvb was not an elite player when we signed him.
If you had those clauses you'd never get anyone to sign them never mind elite players
 
Will be interesting if he gets a full pre season under a coach who rates him to see if he can have a role. We are desperately short in the CMs
No thanks. This line of thinking is the reason Martial is about to enter his 9th season at the club (among various other similar examples).
 
Will be interesting if he gets a full pre season under a coach who rates him to see if he can have a role. We are desperately short in the CMs
That ship sailed long ago. Van de Beek isn't robust enough to play the deeper role and isn't creative enough to play the advanced role, he has to move on now.
 
I reckon he can play there yeah, he can also cover Bruno the undroppable. I’m intrigued to see what happens with him.

No and no. He is not a CM by any definition and has already been tried in Bruno's role where he was marginally less influential than the corner flag. I am not going to be ridiculous and say he has no talent but he is miles away from being good enough for any role with this United team and would offer less then Mainoo or even Savage at this point. His value is tanking and is not going to increase as long as he is here so we need to get rid now.
 
Enough already of the discussion . he was rubbish here and he was rubbish at everton. His value is nil in uk. Our only hope is memory is decent back in Netherlands and someone somewhere has a weak moment and fires a bid in for him. Result. Anything else is a waste of time. He plays like a ghost . You can see he is there but he can't do anything of any substance.
owed 14 000 000 amort/salary 13 240 000 anything above 1 million is plus in the net gain so get rid
 
Enough already of the discussion . he was rubbish here and he was rubbish at everton. His value is nil in uk. Our only hope is memory is decent back in Netherlands and someone somewhere has a weak moment and fires a bid in for him. Result. Anything else is a waste of time. He plays like a ghost . You can see he is there but he can't do anything of any substance.

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I reckon he can play there yeah, he can also cover Bruno the undroppable. I’m intrigued to see what happens with him.
I admire your ability to retain interest beyond the call of duty.

I think I ran short of intrigue about a year ago when I realised he does the same thing every game.
 
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