Form is temporary, class is permanent. Still putting Firmino as captain
lol, just joking. Make Vardy my captain since 2 weeks ago, even using "Triple Captain" on him last week
Dippers to top the league by New Year?
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lol, just joking. Make Vardy my captain since 2 weeks ago, even using "Triple Captain" on him last week
Top of the Woodwork League maybe?
They have so many spineless players.
If we wasn't so shit ourselves, this would be fecking hilarious.
Just wondering, what prompt the OP to make this thread and the question of it? Because it doesn't make any sense
Klopp has a huge job on his hands. We are pretty shit and he hasn't had a noticeable effect just yet, in the league anyway. Today was one of the worst performances I've seen since the Hodgson days. Palace, West Brom and Newcastle have also been games where we've really struggled.
Every team does atm, that's why the league is so unpredictable. Complete lack of character in modern players - never had to really fight for their livelihood, plenty of Premier League players could probably have retired as teenagers nowadays and still lived relatively comfortably.
The only players at "top teams" who for me match up to the attitudes/leaders of old are Sanchez, Coquelin, Terry, Aguero, maybe Smalling/Jones, Herrera, few keepers - perhaps De Gea, Courtois, Hart. And half of those aren't world class talents.
The players who've stood out and have proper fighting spirit, have seemingly often come from the lower leagues such as Vardy, Alli, Drinkwater (albeit he was a United youth), perhaps Bolasie and Dwight Gayle...the league even makes a grafter like Troy Deeney look pretty handy FFS!
Great thread.
I take full credit for what has happened, this reasoning behind this thread was to jinx them.
Completely agree with you on this one.
Nothing about football makes sense at the moment. Leicester flying at the top, United and Liverpool can't buy a win, Chelsea in 15th, Watford and Crystal Palace challenging the top four.
I think the famed 'T.V. money' that's percolated down to the 'smaller' clubs really has made for a more exciting, unpredictable league.
One down, two to go.
Two down, one to go.
Noticeable effect was surely the Chelsea and especially the City away wins. The City win especially was the biggest going over I can remember City taking in the league since they won the lotto.
Has got a very limited squad though. Anyone can see that
Quick, someone create the Leicester to win the League by Easter and United to get relegated by the bank holiday threads!
Wow. How sad, it's only taken you nearly 3 weeks to bother to answer my post. Clearly waiting to see which way the tide was running and no guts to come out and say anything before now. Did you perchance have my post open in a separate tab and were waiting for an opportune moment to launch a riposte ? And let's be 100% clear on this - I didn't say anything about us topping the PL on NY's Day. You're in fantasyland lad.So, just to clarify, you think that LFC will be top of the table on New Years Day?
Next time I suggest you follow your own advice.
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It's a real conundrum though because you can't win games like those by those score lines (and 1-6 at Southampton) without doing an awful lot right ..... and then we totally fecked it up against the teams we were supposed to beat. The lack of fighting spirit shown is really frustrating though. Still, there's a long long way to go and Leicester will need to keep their very small squad fit, injuries could sabotage their title tilt, it'd be sensational to see them win it though I still believe they'll eventually finish 5th or 6th. The PL is absolutely nuts this season.
I remember those post that said LVG took 18 months to do nothing but Klopp already have Pool playing entertaining football.
I love football.
I love football.
This, absolutely this. I think the technical quality of the squad is decent, but Rodgers assembled a side in his own image - completely bereft of leaders and defiant winners. Like an even more gormless reflection of Wenger's Arsenal.
Henderson is our captain and even worse Milner is our vice-captain ffs (to be fair to Hendo, he only looks gormless). All of them love a good crumble when they under pressure and there are very few who will just stand up and play their game when they are up against it.
Coutinho, Henderson, Sturridge, Ibe, and Ings, maybe Clyne too, have it. Everyone else are happy to pass the buck to someone else when games need to be won against the odds and the team isn't playing well. Sakho has it too, but as the weekend showed, his jimmies can be rustled. Everyone else are only too happy to crawl back in the shell when it gets tough.
Aye, I think football, in general, these days are full of primadonnas. Even at United, especially since SAF left, have we often accused our squad of lacking inspiration, fighters & leaders.
Gone are the days you had the likes of Schmikes, Keane, Hughes, Cantona, Bruce, Ince etc all in our team. It's probably a huge reason we love Schweinsteiger so much, even though his forms not been great. A lot of that mentality stems from, not only belief from winning, but form the manager as well. It seems Klopp has those qualities, so maybe with a few transfer windows he'll be able to rectify it.
Southampton were awful that night as well
Isn't that what we always wanted?
Why do you want to jinx Leicester?
So that we win the league as a result of the 'United to get relegated' jinx?
They do a pretty good job of jinxing themselves.
I was chatting online with an LFC friend after NUFC beat them recently - we were chatting about Klopp mainly, but my mate was still harbouring dreams of them winning the league this season .
Personally I think they've historically (for more than a decade) turned over too many players in the transfer market - not just loosing their good ones which is clearly beyond their control and unhelpful, but every year they buy so many new players. It's a team in constant transition. Whoever is in charge of player recruitment should to take a deep breath, calm down, get a grip, and then limit themselves to 1-2 high quality incoming players per season.
. Personally I think they've historically (for more than a decade) turned over too many players in the transfer market - not just loosing their good ones which is clearly beyond their control and unhelpful, but every year they buy so many new players. It's a team in constant transition. Whoever is in charge of player recruitment should to take a deep breath, calm down, get a grip, and then limit themselves to 1-2 high quality incoming players per season.
Is Klopp struggling to adapt to the Premier League?
According to caftards, LVG has said these things take time with his philosophy/process nonsense, whereas Klopp had come in and instilled his tactics within weeks.That's how easy it was. Apparently.
Well, it's not. You have to have the players to pull off success stories. Klopp has the same players as Rodgers did and is producing the same, actually worse, results than he did. People forget how important the players are. In fact, relying on his defunct attackers is seemingly going to cost LVG his job.
With regards to Klopp failing to adapt, I don't think you can say that so soon, but what I'd say it is, is a reminder that simply showing some charisma, having ideas that have previously worked, hi-fiving fans and celebrating draws with them to build goodwill, doesn't get you success. A lot of factors go into winning titles and creating great teams, and Klopp has A LOT of work to do to achieve his 4-year goal. No amount of posturing and fan-happiness/attitude will replace that work that needs to be done.
Struggling to adapt to average players.
Any chance of you creating a "ManUArfa won't win a jackpot on the premium bonds" thread?
Klopp is working with what he inherited, I'd be judging them at the end of next season.
Sht. Skrtl s njrd fr sx wks.
Anything that keeps Lovren and Sacko at the back is fine by me. Sakho had me chuckling throughout the Watford game, such an entertainer.
He won't be here, they lost their last game.
How surprising then to find that you recognise a lot has to be done and that a lot of facets are required to come together to be successful, and yet at the same time criticise Klopp for trying to inspire the fans to get behind the team, surely one of the foundation stones of any successful team. Fans inspire the players with their backing who then find that extra 10% due to that vocal support during the match. Arguably a key reason in the relative success of teams like Leicester, Watford and Bournemouth. Anfield's been a library for much of the season, we might have only drawn with WBA but the crowd found their voice and it's possible that that backing was the reason the team fought so hard to the end and maybe why they grabbed a point.
One of the strangest performance I've seen from a defender in a long time.
Celebrating draws like you've won a cup isn't the way to "inspire fans". Not in my book anyway. It's just a pretentious sense of achievement.
Your team worked hard because the fans cheered a bit? Problems seems bigger than I thought.
Lazy lazy assumption - even though you already know better.
Oh you're so droll *rolls eyes*