Dippers to top the league by New Year?

United fans to sack Klopp from their "wanted list" after this defeat?
 
I think we all lost the run of ourselves a little for a minute there. We'd make good scousers!

Yep. Liverpool may be "Liverpool Football Club" but their players aren't that good and while they have the best manager in the league (imo), he can't take them from 5th to 1st in less than half a season. They will challenge for 4th with Spurs while the title is reserved for the least sh!te of Arsenal, City and us.
 
You can believe that if you want to, but I am confident in predicting you won't. Your goalkeeper is significantly worse than the keepers at United, Arsenal and City, your defence is similarly lagging behind, the midfield is not even close to the level of that at Arsenal and United, your wide options are simply average when compared to those at Arsenal and City, and you cannot place Coutinho and Sturridge in the same league as Aguero and Silva.

If Sturridge stays fit, you'll challenge for the top four.

As I said in response to the idea Liverpool will challenge for the title. It's as though people were allowing legitimate concerns about Van Gaal turn into compliments for Liverpool. I didn't say the above just because I can't stand Liverpool; I said it because it's actually true.
 
Only just saw this thread. Was too big an overreaction to a few good performances. They'll probably challenge for top four but they are still plagued by inconsistency, just like the rest of the league.
 
I think this over-reaction isn't just cos Liverpool fans got ahead of themselves, but the media was dying to get it's "Liverpool are back" narrative moving.

In other news, they're seemingly not bored with the "United are boring" narrative either. I'm pretty sure it's not for that to be announced as a fact on 5 Live! As a match-going United fan, I think I'm entitled to draw those sorts of conclusions. Anyhow, if we had anyone who could finish, I think things would be very different.

(See also "Leicester are amazing" narrative, which could easily be a "the strength of the top 4 is crap" story)
 
I think this over-reaction isn't just cos Liverpool fans got ahead of themselves, but the media was dying to get it's "Liverpool are back" narrative moving.

In other news, they're seemingly not bored with the "United are boring" narrative either. I'm pretty sure it's not for that to be announced as a fact on 5 Live! As a match-going United fan, I think I'm entitled to draw those sorts of conclusions. Anyhow, if we had anyone who could finish, I think things would be very different.

(See also "Leicester are amazing" narrative, which could easily be a "the strength of the top 4 is crap" story)
It was the majority of the United fans who were shitting themselves after our midweek game at Southampton who got ahead of themselves, not the Liverpool fans on here.
 
I think Coutinho is so key to them in attack - their Silva

Also, Klopp's teams tend to do better in the "difficult" fixtures where they can counter attack rather than the "easier" ones where they have to break the opposition down
 
This is sad but true.
It's not entirely true. The media started creaming themselves, and by reports of people on here, most Liverpool fans did as well.

As for the Utd fans on here, they've become incredible drama queens so it's not that shocking. But it's not true that only Utd fans started that narrative after the Saints game.
 
It's not entirely true. The media started creaming themselves, and by reports of people on here, most Liverpool fans did as well.

As for the Utd fans on here, they've become incredible drama queens so it's not that shocking. But it's not true that only Utd fans started that narrative after the Saints game.

Given that a United fan started this thread, it's clear that there's now an element on here that adore Klopp. It's sad, really sad actually. The whole Klopp-love-in is media driven but there's also a-lot of pandering on here, too.
 
It's not entirely true. The media started creaming themselves, and by reports of people on here, most Liverpool fans did as well.

As for the Utd fans on here, they've become incredible drama queens so it's not that shocking
. But it's not true that only Utd fans started that narrative after the Saints game.

Truer words never spoken
 
It was the majority of the United fans who were shitting themselves after our midweek game at Southampton who got ahead of themselves, not the Liverpool fans on here.

I meant generally, not so much on here. Any United fans getting worried at that want their heads seeing to!

Like I said about narratives, a couple of wins & the pundits will be giving you all the cups. They'll then take 'em off you 3 days later after a bad result!
 
The quality of the manager is always more important than the quality of the squad. It's football hipster logic.
Seems you and Fergie are on different wave-lengths then ;)

Sir Alex Ferguson is in no doubt that Jurgen Klopp will produce a huge upturn in Liverpool'sfortunes.

Former Manchester United manager Ferguson, who led the Red Devils to 13 Premier League titles and five FA Cups, says he does not want to see the Anfield side successful but finds it hard to speak negatively about the former Borussia Dortmund boss.

The 73-year-old has been impressed by Klopp's personality and is confident there will be a big impact at Liverpool.

"I am worried about him because the one thing United do not want is Liverpool to get above us," he said at the TechCrunch Disrupt London event.

"I know him quite well from the coaching seminars. He is going to make a difference at that club with his personality, drive and knowledge. Things are looking up there.

"He is a fantastic personality, with those big white teeth always showing. Even at Newcastle when they lost the second goal he goes over to Steve McClaren to congratulate him. That is class, that. And the work he did at Borussia Dortmund."
 
9 points now mate. It was 6 when Klopp took over though.
True. But it's important to look at the big picture and not a single person could tell you we are worse off than with Rodgers in charge. Yes yesterday was horrible, it was one of those matches were you knew what was going to happen after 10 mins and we were just waiting for the car crash (got to feel sorry for Moreno though, lovely goal that would've looked hie on his CV).

However it's important to look at the progress and not get carried away one way or the other, Rodgers' had 3 wins (in 9) in the PL this season; Stoke, Bournemouth and Villa, Klopp's (in 6 matches) are Chelsea, Man City and Swansea. It's inevitable that there are going to be hiccups along the way as it's a learning curve for both team and manager. I do like how he calls it like it was after each match though .. none of the BS we'd get from Rodgers or worse still Hodgson. When we were shite that's what he states, unequivocally.
 
However it's important to look at the progress and not get carried away one way or the other,

You haven't been better against shitty oppo than under BR, though. Ridiculously much better v better teams on the other hand. But, again, Klopps critics always said those matches were his strengths and buses not so much. Good to know there are a lot of buses in the Pl when facing the top teams :)
 
Yep. Liverpool may be "Liverpool Football Club" but their players aren't that good and while they have the best manager in the league (imo), he can't take them from 5th to 1st in less than half a season. They will challenge for 4th with Spurs while the title is reserved for the least sh!te of Arsenal, City and us.

Very well said. The quality of the premier league is pretty shit at the moment.
 
Seems you and Fergie are on different wave-lengths then ;)

Sir Alex Ferguson is in no doubt that Jurgen Klopp will produce a huge upturn in Liverpool'sfortunes.

Former Manchester United manager Ferguson, who led the Red Devils to 13 Premier League titles and five FA Cups, says he does not want to see the Anfield side successful but finds it hard to speak negatively about the former Borussia Dortmund boss.

The 73-year-old has been impressed by Klopp's personality and is confident there will be a big impact at Liverpool.

"I am worried about him because the one thing United do not want is Liverpool to get above us," he said at the TechCrunch Disrupt London event.

"I know him quite well from the coaching seminars. He is going to make a difference at that club with his personality, drive and knowledge. Things are looking up there.

"He is a fantastic personality, with those big white teeth always showing. Even at Newcastle when they lost the second goal he goes over to Steve McClaren to congratulate him. That is class, that. And the work he did at Borussia Dortmund."

I don't think Fergie is necessarily talking about this season, in the long term yes Klopp will no doubt improve Pool vastly
 
I don't think Fergie is necessarily talking about this season, in the long term yes Klopp will no doubt improve Pool vastly

Ferguson is clueless. Teams have worked Klopp out. Now and in the future. I hope we can get Pep in the summer.
 
Ferguson is clueless. Teams have worked Klopp out. Now and in the future. I hope we can get Pep in the summer.

Have teams not worked Pep out also?

Yes he walks the Bundesliga but the CL hasn't been pretty..
 
Trashing Southampton tonight, they have a fairly decent league run in before the end of the year.

6-Dec Newcastle (a) 2:0 loss
13-Dec West Brom (h) 2:2 draw
20-Dec Watford (a) 3:0 loss and counting
26-Dec Leicester (h)
30-Dec Sunderland (a)


The usual media clowns that love LFC are already daring to speak of winning the league.

2016 could be a very rough year if they dont hit a run of bad form soon. If you believe in any form of higher power, it could be time to start saying some prayers.

Good stuff. Will be surprised if they beat Leicester with the form both teams are in.
 
Top of the alternative league table, and that's all that fuchen matters laaa.
 
Sometimes one has to wonder if posters even bother to check their facts before they post.

So, just to clarify, you think that LFC will be top of the table on New Years Day?
Next time I suggest you follow your own advice. ;)