Don´t really need another Shaw to keep the physios company.
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He is only 20 though and these types of muscle injury happens at this age.
He is going to be our future RB. Sadly, you wouldnt see that for at least 3 years.
Hes going to oust wan bissaka who is 1 year older? I doubt it.
I just don't see it. With Laird and Williams coming up fast he's going to have to take his chance soon!
I was under the impression that as you get older, your likelihood of injury increases.
When I was 20, I had zero injuries and felt bullet proof. As I got older, I did get injuries and it took a while for me to learn how to warm up correctly and be aware of the signs of approaching injuries.
There isn't anything wrong with having 2 x top RBs available to choose. We play a lot of games and plenty of injuries may occur meaning that both players would get ample chance of playing games.
The issue with Dalot is that he isn't good at defending, though he is good at crossing. I'd use him as a RW only. So instead of using Lingard or Mata (who are useless in that position), put in Dalot for a few games and see how he does.
I don't think he's ever had a game where I thought afterwards that he was brilliant (maybe when he came on against PSG). Hasn't really shown why we bought him yet and having injuries like this so young is not a good sign.
Problem playing him as a winger is that his positional play sucks. I honestly prefer Pereira there (better cross too, Dalot's is very average IMO)
Dalot would be most effective as a RWB used in matches where we go 352 (AWB could easily slot at RCB on said occasion).
Dalot would be most effective as a RWB used in matches where we go 352 (AWB could easily slot at RCB on said occasion).
Problem with playing him as a winger is that he offers absolutely nothing going forward. He doesn’t seem very fast, he doesn’t have a great technique, he isn’t a good crosser, and his passing is mediocre at best. And he is a bad defender.
I agree with this. He's not a good enough defender to play full back against a decent side and going forward he's incredibly limited. Wan Bissaka is better on the ball and better at attacking positioning. AWB also seems to be a better crosser than him too, judging on appearances this season.
Weirdest thing for me is that I thought his best performances came when we tried him on the right wing, he's meant to be a full back but I'm not sure I can see his long term future being there.
In terms of when they are playing at fullback I would say Dalot is better on the ball, attacking positioning and just bringing the ball forward in general. Dalot has struggled when he's started games on the wing (although he's also had a couple of very good games there when he's come off the bench).
He's caught in between positions. He's not good enough defensively to be a full back, and he's not good enough offensively to be an out and out winger. He is decent on the ball and has a good cross, I think he's best position is wing back in a 3-5-2 formation. Here his defensive faults are hidden, when he plays full back he seems to be always caught of position and seemingly always in a state of chasing usually quite a few yards behind the opposition winger. Going forward as we improve the squad, I see very limited action for him.
Our new Fabio
He is perfect for the AWB/Young role in a 3-4-3 (or 3-4-1-2) formation.
Not for AWB, he could certainly do the Young role, but that's a position we are surely looking to strengthen. Young, Shaw and even Dalot can't be viewed as long term solutions to the left back/wing back position. AWB pretty much has the right full back/wing back position sewn up. I'd like to see more of Williams this season at left back. We've a decent run of games coming up, I thing this would be a good time to start easing him into line up.
If he flops it's going to be a tremendous disappointment. As most said, he is considered one of the world's biggest potential players since u16. Wouldn't be the first player to stall at senior level, though.
The biggest stall ever on the Portuguese football history was Márcio Sousa: from being considered the biggest talent on his age in the whole world (you read it right: world. Maradona himself considered him his possible successor after watching the Euro 2003 final
), having dozens of Europe top clubs trying to hire him which he refused because he wanted to make his senior debut at Porto, and he flopped massively. I mean, he wasn't even good enough for Championship level as a senior.
The biggest stall ever on the Portuguese football history was Márcio Sousa: from being considered the biggest talent on his age in the whole world (you read it right: world. Maradona himself considered him his possible successor after watching the Euro 2003 final
), having dozens of Europe top clubs trying to hire him which he refused because he wanted to make his senior debut at Porto, and he flopped massively. I mean, he wasn't even good enough for Championship level as a senior.Christ he’s twenty. Give the lad an opportunity to develop.
At 20, you came to conclusion that he is not good enough defensively? And he is not a winger not sure how this narrative keep coming.
I see him as a better prospect than AWB. If we get someone like Poch, he would prefer Dalot than AWB.
Why cant? Its not like AWB is pulling up trees attacking wise. He is just great defensively .
Both are very exciting talents and it would be very immature to judge who will have a better career .
I really don't see his attacking positioning being a strength it's fairly poor, and he's usually in the wrong spot. Dalot can carry the ball better and beat a defender on the ball, but they aren't really that useful for a full back.
Since Mensah is a bit in a football limbo, he should play. Not much of a choice really.
The thing is...AWB has been a senior pro going on a full two seasons as the first choice RB (Palace and now United). He's also been called up to his national team, while Dalot cannot say the same for club or country.
AWB isn't a prospect. He's a fully fledged first choice, first team player. Dalot is not. Dalot is exactly like you said, a prospect.
yes I've watched him play. That's my views on him on what I've seen so far. Rashford is 21, a mere 1 yr older, and I don't think he's a centre forward, think he's better coming in off the flanks. Can, will Dalot improve, possibly, but I'm talking right now and he's not good enough defensively to play full back for us, simple as. I then said that he could play wing back where his defensive lapses aren't as noticeable, and his crossing ability might be better utilised. No-one said he's a traditional winger but he has been played there by us in the past.You can make assertions on players based on the here and now.
Yeah very immature to have an opinion. Bizarre.
Besides awb has probably been our best player this season (low bar sure). I'd rather a full back be solid defensively and learn to attack than the other way around.
I've just seen little to suggest dalot will be the better player. I'd suggest that in spending 45 million on a 21 year old to start ahead of him means ole and united feel the same way.
So if you have good crossing capabilities, we should try as a winger ? Is that the criteria now ? We are a mess . So it doesn't tell you anything if we actually tried him and he failed there. Does this apply for full backs like Robertson or Digne when they were at the same age ?
Robertson was playing in a Scottish third division at 19 .
Works both ways mate. Yes, very bizarre to doubt someone's opinion that Dalot will have a better career.
Spending 45m by united or Ole means feck all. Our transfer dealings are shambles and doesn't imply anything.
I said wing back, not winger,they are different positions. Right now he can't play full back for us in my opinion, he's not good enough defensively, his positioning is awful. I suggested in a previous post, he might be more suited to wing back as it masks his defensive frailities, and he's decent at getting forward and crossing. I also said I don't see him getting much game time as we continue to strengthen our squad over coming windows. Other poster suggested he could replace Young as a wing back, like we played v Liverpool. I merely agreed. No mention of him playing winger, in fact in my first post on this thread I said catergorically he's not talented enough offensively to play as an out and out winger, as some on here claim he could. Not sure why you getting so upset about criticism over a player. yes he's young, but he came with a lot of expectations and he hasn't lived up to them. If and when he does live up to these, he will get the credit he deserves. I can only comment on what I've seen so far, and it hasn't been great. You mention Robertson at 19, at 19 he was playing for Hull in premier league. Prior to that he's been playing regular first team football in Scotland. Dalot played 6 first team games for Porto. He's very inexperienced at all levels. Wan Bissaka is 1 yr older than Dalot, yet seems on another level.He needs game time, and right now it looks like even in this poor team we have, that he's not going to get regular football.
Is he ever fit longer than few weeks? We really can find fit defenders...
Him, Jones and Shaw are actually in the same class
Jose once said that our club was full of unfit players that can't run (he took the example of Robertson)
The longer we stick with these players that are always injured, the more we will be sh**
Sorry, but we should get rid of him if he doesn't improve his fitness, but also his quality
Jose once said that our club was full of unfit players that can't run (he took the example of Robertson)
The longer we stick with these players that are always injured, the more we will be sh**
Sorry, but we should get rid of him if he doesn't improve his fitness, but also his quality
At this moment in time I haven't seen much to show me he is a going to be a quality player. However, he is only 20 and has had many unfortunate injuries. Willing to give him time and maybe a loan elsewhere may be the best move.
I'm confident Dalot will come good.
Surprised to see many of our fans seem to have written him off already.
Hope he manages to regain fitness soon.
Surprised to see many of our fans seem to have written him off already.
Hope he manages to regain fitness soon.
He doesn't fill me with confidence. Positionally, he's very suspect and doesn't seem to have either pace or stamina to make up for his weakness. On top of that, he can hardly remain fit.
I think he has potential as a right wing back, or even a right sided midfielder.
Things like positioning can be coached in to a young player too. He was very highly rated in Portugal and I think that is for good reason.
He seems a good dribbler of the ball with a high take-on success ratio (if I recall correctly) and is also a good crosser of the ball.
I’m willing to give him a chance anyway and I think there is a good player in there. The injuries certainly aren’t helping though of course.
Injured again?
We have way too many injury prone players. I'd be ashamed to earn millions and barely play all year.
He was injured when we bought him and has rarely been fit since.
He’s fortunate that Laird also picks up fair amount of injuries. If Laird stays fit I think he will get himself ahead of Dalot, I can see him being sent out on loan and not coming back.
We have a bunch of Darren Anderton’s (Injury wise ) compared to any other team in the PL
I'm not. Our fans are generally idiots.
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