Park has scored goals when he's played in the hole. He may not be perfect for the position but if he gets on the scoresheet that helps Berbatov and ourselves out a lot.
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Park has scored goals when he's played in the hole. He may not be perfect for the position but if he gets on the scoresheet that helps Berbatov and ourselves out a lot.
Carrick and Fletcher should be enough... but its the problem of having to face Robben and Ribery, Fergie may be fearful of going 4-4-2.
I too think Park is average in that role on his displays thus far.. the fact he's been our trequartista is saying quite abit about our current resources.
However Park and Fletch's presence in conjunction to Carrick sitting, could allow us to press them high up the pitch as well as giving the team some defensive solidity.
He has to show some muscle on the ball if he does start on Wednesday... his touch has to be good and he has to make the ball stick, I'm not worried about his runs off the ball or even his finishing, but he has to be good in general play if we are to build a consistent platform for mounting attacks.
Quite obviously you haven't been watching him over the last couple of months. He's moved up a gear, maybe not Rooney-gear, but he's getting better.
He will definitely be here next season and will be a bigger factor than he has this season. Thing is, I expect if he does well, it will simply annoy his detractors more.
I'd rather see Berbs playing there(in the hole) as he seems to be in that position whether he's meant to be there or not and has a lot more vision passing wise than Park does. He can also tackle a bit which tends to go unnoticed on the caf. Much better than playing Berbs up front as he takes twice as long as everyone else to get there. Also Kiko is a bit of an unknown quantity which could really surprise the Germans. Doubt it'll happen tho.
Agreed, would love to see kiko playing upfront , and berbs in the hole,
I'm fairly sure Dans has some kind of visual impairment where he sees everything Berba does in super slow motion.
He's not lazy and I was so sure that the muppets on here got over that myth at about the time that he started visibly creating attacking moves by winning the ball back off the opposition (like against Wigan, or in the Carling Cup Final). He won the ball 4 times in the attacking half against Chelsea - more than any of our other players. Only Gary Neville and Nemanja Vidic won more tackles during the game, so get to feck with this lazy business. He is visibly, and statistically no where near as lazy as some people (mainly Dans) are making out in this thread.
Rooney didn't get torn into this way after equally ineffectual games against Everton, Aston Villa, Fulham and Liverpool, and frankly I find it ridiculous that after quite visibly pulling his socks up this season (he's already beaten his league goals tally from last season) the senseless Berbabashing continues.
He's not lazy and I was so sure that the muppets on here got over that myth at about the time that he started visibly creating attacking moves by winning the ball back off the opposition (like against Wigan, or in the Carling Cup Final). He won the ball 4 times in the attacking half against Chelsea - more than any of our other players. Only Gary Neville and Nemanja Vidic won more tackles during the game, so get to feck with this lazy business. He is visibly, and statistically no where near as lazy as some people (mainly Dans) are making out in this thread.
Rooney didn't get torn into this way after equally ineffectual games against Everton, Aston Villa, Fulham and Liverpool, and frankly I find it ridiculous that after quite visibly pulling his socks up this season (he's already beaten his league goals tally from last season) the senseless Berbabashing continues.
I think he has 12 goals and 6 assists in 25 starts in all competitions. That's obviously piss-poor by Dans's standards.
all comps? Doesn't he have 12 goals in the league?
He's not scored in any of the other competitions, and depending on what sources you read its either 6 or 8 assists (some sources count whoever is fouled to earn a freekick that is scored directly from as an assister so Nani v Wigan and one other - I think Giggs v Spurs)
Wow, I never knew that, what if someone wins a Pen and somebody else takes it?
That's generally always counted as an assist, whereas the freekicks thing depends on which source you're reading.
He's only made 5 non-league starts
I think most people want the 20+ goals he got at spurs which seems fair enough. Was he two years at spurs? He always started slow but got goals. Hes had a good run of late but he's still only scored 12/13....which ain't good
Carrick, Scholes(this decent season aside his best for awhile), fletcher, Park, Nani, Anderson
, Gibson (though he has shown potential), giggs ...none will get you double figures. That's a problem.
Carrick, Scholes(this decent season aside his best for awhile), fletcher, Park, Nani, Anderson
, Gibson (though he has shown potential), giggs ...none will get you double figures. That's a problem.He's improved dramatically and to be fair I've never been his biggest fan. If Fergie persists on leaving him on his own up front he'll get bashed almost every time cos it just doesn't suit his style. Hopefully Fergie will sort this sooner rather than later and risk Kiko (as inexperienced as he is, we don't have anyone else till Rooney gets back) up front. Could well be the making of the lad.
I'm not convinced Berbatov knows what he's doing there to be honest. I can't help but feel he's about to lose money at that roulette table...
He's one cool looking fecker isn't he.
I reckon he would make a good James Bond.
That should be an absolute fashion disaster. And yet it isn't, he pulls it off
I think if he single handidly brought back 70's shorts we'd be a hell of a lot more forgiving of his poorer performances. Losing I can't handle... losing in style I can. And nothing says stylish like a pair of shorts that perfectly displays your package in all its glory
It upsets me to think I will never look that sexy when pumping fuel into my car
If he performed as well on the pitch for United as he does in some of these pictures he'd be a fecking superstar!
Nothin stylish about that mate, ask any woman! (the one in the orange shorts)
That should be an absolute fashion disaster. And yet it isn't, he pulls it off
I think if he single handidly brought back 70's shorts we'd be a hell of a lot more forgiving of his poorer performances. Losing I can't handle... losing in style I can. And nothing says stylish like a pair of shorts that perfectly displays your package in all its glory
Dimi approves of this
Or maybe its an erection?(to the right!)
Maybe what's an erection?
I can't believe you've barely broken 500 posts in 6 years, and one of your contributions is "or maybe its an erection"!!!
I can't believe you've barely broken 500 posts in 6 years, and one of your contributions is "or maybe its an erection"!!!
In the shorts obviously! Maybe he likes his friend?
Haven't been unemployed up till now, was on 370 at xmas so doing much better this year. Don't put me off
What the hell kind of erections are you getting!?!
Normal one's, just depends on whether it gets caught on something. Missus never complains anyway!
If I had a dick that developed a sharp right angle on erection, I reckon my missus might not be as understanding as yours!
Are you shagging her side on?!
Are you shagging her side on?!
Well this thread got sidetracked slightly.
Berba smirks.
Berba smirks.
I think all we have to do is to look at the goals Tevez has scored in the league this season. Compared to Berbatov, Tevez is inferior in almost every department of the game. However, when a striker keep making runs, closing down defenders and put in a high workrate, it is going to make things very difficult for opposition defence, and the goals will come. Berbatov is all fancy and no substance. He drops deep, doesn't make runs, and beats the first defender and rarely the 2nd. Its very easy to mark him out of the game, when he is always rooted outside the box, instead of trying to find space to put the finishing touch to moves.
You first. After all you're the one in here imagining Berba would ever give a shit about what you think.
Writing in caps lock won't make it appear any less stupid for claiming Berbatov was the cause of our attack looking so toothless vs Chelsea.
You first.
It's not my fault you can't read properly. I don't have the time to bandy words with you convincing you of the bullshit folks have been saying in here. You included:
Below is just a snippet of the bullshit:
Sure. The same Rooney who was left just as isolated and under serviced on Wednesday as Berba was on Saturday. How absolving of Berbatov this comment is.....Boss said:
Sure. It was because of him they couldn't create any clear cut openings. Just like was the case on Wednesday with Rooney playing. Surely this is proof Berba is blameless in their eyes when it comes to why we got beat on Saturday.Boss said:
Right. So if he had 'made an effort" everything would have been fine eh? Just like it was with Rooney in the side on WednesdayDans said:
you hit the nail here, you can like or dislike Berba but you need to rember how wank our midfiled can be at times if you want to be fair in your criticism towards strikers be it Rooney or Berbs.
You first. After all you're the one in here imagining Berba would ever give a shit about what you think.
Writing in caps lock won't make it appear any less stupid for claiming Berbatov was the cause of our attack looking so toothless vs Chelsea.
You first.
It's not my fault you can't read properly. I don't have the time to bandy words with you convincing you of the bullshit folks have been saying in here. You included:
Below is just a snippet of the bullshit:
Sure. The same Rooney who was left just as isolated and under serviced on Wednesday as Berba was on Saturday. How absolving of Berbatov this comment is.....
Sure. It was because of him they couldn't create any clear cut openings. Just like was the case on Wednesday with Rooney playing. Surely this is proof Berba is blameless in their eyes when it comes to why we got beat on Saturday.
Right. So if he had 'made an effort" everything would have been fine eh? Just like it was with Rooney in the side on Wednesday
You actually comparing the match in Bayern where we couldn't even make three passes to the second half of the game against Chelsea where he constanty had them on the backfoot. The midfield performances can't even be compared.
I think Match Of The Day highlighted the differences between the space which Rooney runs in to and the lack of movement from Berbatov perfectly on sat nights show.
Berba may do as much running as the rest when it comes to yards covered (debatable as it is), however if this is ineffective running like it appears to be, then it doesn't mean shit.
The guy did nothing on Sat that helps his cause, he was just stood up front and was very ineffective.
I think the guy is a 30m mistake. Why Tevez left is a mystery to me, greed, not starting enough games, not being wanted etc, etc, im sure we all have an option on the Argie tw@t. However one thing that cannot be disputed, is that 99.9% of us would rather have Tevez in the team over Berbatov every time.
Berbatov is a posing cnut! and I thought Ronaldo and Beckham were bad. ********* is on another level.
It upsets me to think I will never look that sexy when pumping fuel into my car
If he performed as well on the pitch for United as he does in some of these pictures he'd be a fecking superstar!
Looks like some Italian Mafia or something.
Or a villain in some the action movies.
Never has a pose screamed 'imagine this hose was my penis, and this car a beautiful woman' more that that. Never
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