Hopefully his best comes soon
Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances
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Go to hell Sitting Bull
that sounds good to me.
Didn't he say this last season
I expect to get torn apart, but a striker whose best is yet to come at the age of 29(!) has obviously done something wrong in his career.
He was talking about his career with United.
As you can see from the title of the thread.
He means for us, this season.
Though Drogba is 30 and this season might be his best for Chelsea yet, so anything is possible.
I don't enough players have hit really top gear this term for us to pin Berbatov down and blame him. Most of the time we've just been getting by.
The title is not a direct quote from Berbatov, though.
Berbatov has improved in comparison to last season but I don't believe there's much more to come. It's his second year at United and he has already played for some years in the Premier League - so adaption shouldn't be an issue anymore. And from 29 on, footballers usually don't get better, it's just like it is.
would love for him to come out his shell and make a lot of you eat your words. He is under appreciated and judged soley on his goals and transfer fee which is a a tad unfair, when you consider where he is asked to play and what he contributes to the team when he plays. If ferguson played him further forward he would get more goals and then people would get off his back. His confidence must suffer as in all big games fergie drops him n plays rooney up top alone.
I would love for any player to do that, the problem is, they have to do it. He gets played far enough forward, Rooney drops back enough and he takes up the position, but he is not an out and out goalscorer.
It will not happen, we have over-rated and over anticipated his ability to play for us and do things we thought.
Really?
Nor does he say "the best is yet to come", if you want to be pedantic.
There's every chance that his second season at United will be better than his first, which is usually the case with all new signings - no matter how old they are, or which league they came from. He's also clearly talented enough to improve on what we saw in his debut season.
Hence, it's not unreasonable to assume his best - in a United shirt - really is still to come.
Mind you, if the rumours in the Bulgarian press are true, and he needs to take three months out for knee surgery, then the poor bloke is going to find this season as dissapointing as the last.
What are people problems with Berbatov as a whole? I mean we all knew he wasn't a goal scorer and certainly isn't in the positions he has been played over the last 2 years.
I am not a massive fan of the guy, which you can probably grasp from my name, but he hasn't been that bad for us. He wasn't amazing last year, but he was settling and finding his place in the squad. With Ronaldo and Tevez going, the attack has been thrown up in the air again, he has got to settle again, and find his new position in the team. He was never going to get us 30 goals a season, because thats not the kind of player he is.
I am not a massive fan of the guy, which you can probably grasp from my name, but he hasn't been that bad for us. He wasn't amazing last year, but he was settling and finding his place in the squad. With Ronaldo and Tevez going, the attack has been thrown up in the air again, he has got to settle again, and find his new position in the team. He was never going to get us 30 goals a season, because thats not the kind of player he is.
fans are spoilt, ultimately if ferguson is happy with him we should be content with that.
Not an automatic starter.
Only 4 goals so far this season.
His partnership with Rooney, or others, isn't direct breathtaking.
He's seems to lack confidence playing for a big team like United.
For Spurs Berbatov was an excellent player and scoring 20 goals/season, well worth his pricetag (£10m I think it was).
What do you want for a forward who cost us £30m ?
If you think that headline is taken out of context, look at the Suns one!
Berba: Pressure is massive
DIMITAR BERBATOV admits he is struggling to live up to his huge £30.75m price tag
These papers have no shame.
Some of you lot are fecking first class cnuts.
The notion of being a "supporter" is fecking lost on some of you.
feck it. I'm just gonna jump on the bandwagon. Instead of showing a bit of patience, lets ditch the twat and sign the proven Karim Benzema.
The notion of being a "supporter" is fecking lost on some of you.
feck it. I'm just gonna jump on the bandwagon. Instead of showing a bit of patience, lets ditch the twat and sign the proven Karim Benzema.
If you see me at the game, I'm behind the lad 100%
If you see me on here in a discussion about the virtues of the lad, I'll give an honest opinion. I support the club and it's best interests, not a player passing through for a temporary period of time
Berbatov himself has just confirmed half the things 'critics' have been saying about him!!!
If you see me at the game, I'm behind the lad 100%
If you see me on here in a discussion about the virtues of the lad, I'll give an honest opinion. I support the club and it's best interests, not a player passing through for a temporary period of time
Berbatov himself has just confirmed half the things 'critics' have been saying about him!!!
Brad mate, that's fair enough. If you see my numerous posts on Berbatov then it's clear that I'm capable of giving him a balanced appraisal. I've been at pains to point out that I too thought that he was below par last season.
But the last week or so it seems like the anti-Berba stuff has really started rolling again. I find the timing of this strange given how little he's actually played in the last 2 months.
Let's face it. The Caf specialises in finding a scapegoat after defeat. But it's quite shocking when the scapegoat is a player who came on at the end for the last 25 mins (against Villa).
In fairness, I don't think there's many having a go at him for Villa
Before the game someone posted the stats of his goal scoring since he's been here, that's what seemed to start the ball rolling again on this issue
Yeah, but it's just a really strange time to have posted something which was bound to elicit criticism.
Way I see it is that he was really starting to get going. He got his goal against Blackburn, having scored a few other important ones as well. Then he's just been completely out of the picture thanks to his knee.
I hope he's fit tonight and proves a point. He's doubtful though apparently.
I'd like to see him get a run with Owen.
Rooney struggles to form a partnership with Berbatov and Rooney struggles to form a partnership with Owen.
Maybe the problem is Rooney.
Rooney struggles to form a partnership with Berbatov and Rooney struggles to form a partnership with Owen.
Maybe the problem is Rooney.
Truth is, he's not a scapefoat for the Villa game....BUT...Rooney in particular had an off day, and you'd like to think a club like ours would have another striker who could be relied on to show up and make up for Rooney by saving us some points. How confident, truly, was everyone on here that Berbatov would be able to do that?
The 'problem' is our best player?
The Shearer Interrogation. All it lacked was a dangling light bulb.
It is all very worrying. I admire the way some posters keep looking for anything positive Berba does and cream themselves and post multiple threads when he makes a half decent pass.
But Jesus the guy is a shadow of his former self. He has no confidence when playing with Utd in and around the goal. This explains why he takes so few shots unless he has no other option but to have a go, and also explains why he is still scoring freely for Bulgaria. He clearly does not feel the same pressure on international duty. Which when we signed him, nerves is something I did not think he would suffer from. The similarities to Veron's tenure are uncanny. And it is almost tragic how such a cool customer has become almost a nervous wreck with Utd.
Nobody doubts his ability. But the only thing that matters is what you do for 90 mins on match day. I would take Saha, Tevez or Ruud back in a flash to replace him. Berbatov technically is a better player than all three. But He would be last on my list to bring on to help the team earn a point or a win.
But Jesus the guy is a shadow of his former self. He has no confidence when playing with Utd in and around the goal. This explains why he takes so few shots unless he has no other option but to have a go, and also explains why he is still scoring freely for Bulgaria. He clearly does not feel the same pressure on international duty. Which when we signed him, nerves is something I did not think he would suffer from. The similarities to Veron's tenure are uncanny. And it is almost tragic how such a cool customer has become almost a nervous wreck with Utd.
Nobody doubts his ability. But the only thing that matters is what you do for 90 mins on match day. I would take Saha, Tevez or Ruud back in a flash to replace him. Berbatov technically is a better player than all three. But He would be last on my list to bring on to help the team earn a point or a win.
This is true last season, less so this time round.
If I had to point out one big difference between the Berbatov of last season and the opening weeks of this season it would be his willingness to take on a shot. That and him getting into much more advanced positions (ok, two differences!)
At the end of the day, he's talking a good game but talk is (obviously) cheap. So far on the pitch he's looked to have put words into action and is clearly more of a goal-threat than he was last season. Let's cut the guy some slack and see if this trend continues, before deciding that last season was the best we're ever gonna see from him. Is that really too much to ask?
Again I'm guessing the timing had to do with Owen having just scored a hat trick in the Champions League. It's Berbatov that's keeping him out of the team usually, albeit not last weekend where we decided it was better to play one up front at home
But what's that got to do with anything? How he's played last year is worse then he's played previously. He's not talking about improving his all round game, he's talking about getting his from up to the level it was at for Spurs.
If he did that we'd be sorted, and there's very little reason why he shouldn't. He's got similar players surrounding him and he's got a fantastic manager.
Every player has their downside. Up until now no-one's found the perfect partner for him, and there's still questions about where his best position is from top level managers.
Rooney's been part of the reason why we haven't played 4-3-3 consistently IMO, and I've said that for a long while. He's not suited to play in any position in a 4-3-3, not yet at least(but Sir Alex's moulding of him is helping). Yet for probably every other player besides our front three, it's a great formation to play in. It suits our midfielders. Giggs and Valencia work well there, and it'd possibly benefit Nani to be closer to the goal and have that extra midfielder in the team to allow him to be more adventurous.
No one doubts Berbatov's class. I think its even more certain that Veron's. And to be honest, Veron is still the issue here and not Berbatov. For so many of us feel that signing is still vividly raw and we dont want to go through it again. But that history is totally unfair on Berbatov.
I remember back to when we signed Gary Pallister for a then record £2.3million and it took him a full 18 months 'to settle' and the rest is history. The same is true for Keane, Rio, Ronaldo and several other big signings we have made.
I still think he will come good and when he does it will be beautiful. And its coming to a screen near you very soon.
I remember back to when we signed Gary Pallister for a then record £2.3million and it took him a full 18 months 'to settle' and the rest is history. The same is true for Keane, Rio, Ronaldo and several other big signings we have made.
I still think he will come good and when he does it will be beautiful. And its coming to a screen near you very soon.
Keane settled in right away and looked like he had played for Utd all his life.
Although you are right about Pallister. He was rubbish in his 1st season. Ronaldo can easily be forgiven as he was 17, but showed more than enough promise to still know he would produce.
Also Andy Cole took about 3 years to get going. So maybe there is hope. But I still think it is unlikely with Berbatov unfortunately
Although you are right about Pallister. He was rubbish in his 1st season. Ronaldo can easily be forgiven as he was 17, but showed more than enough promise to still know he would produce.
Also Andy Cole took about 3 years to get going. So maybe there is hope. But I still think it is unlikely with Berbatov unfortunately
If Berba scores tonight I will jump up and down and screaming. To critize a player isn't the same as stop supporting him. If you feel something extra for a player or you see that he has more inside him you get frustrated.
During a game I'm allways behind every United player, no matter what! But this is a forum for opinions.
During a game I'm allways behind every United player, no matter what! But this is a forum for opinions.
selective memory. He played in Ince's shadow for the majority of his 1st season.
bollocks. veron came from a title winning lazio where his class was appreciated worldwide..moreso than berbatov.
IMO veron was/is more talented than berba, and has shown more for united. Mind you, veron did not fit in with what we we had already and the english game. Berba suffers from the same issues of not being a good fit for any of our strikers.
lol
What's Giggs got to do with it?
Rooney isn't a good fit with any of our strikers, Berbatov fit just fine with Owen in preseason.
your right in a way
our most consistant attacking player this year has probably been giggs
he's 36 not that you could guess it
we need more from rooney/berbatov/nani/valencia and owen
Care to jog my memory of the opposition we played in pre-season. When we did play better opposition in Valencia, Rooney and Owen's connection was absolutely marvelous. It was like the good ol' England days. When we played Bayern I don't think Berba and Owen linked up well at all. If I remember correctly Berba was too deep and Owen was too far forward.
Even when Owen came on against Birmingham earlier in the season the connection was instant, we all remember Rooney's lovely chest pass. They certainly can play together, it's the infrequency which is the problem.
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