I'm loving the Berbaman right now, hopefully he keeps up his good form, consistency is key, stats say otherwise but he's been very up and down this season.
Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances
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He got on the end of lots more chances, which proves it. You'd have to be mental not to have spotted it. You'd have to be... You.
Actim stats have him 15th, our 4th best player overall this season behind Rooney, Evra and Valencia.
Mcfeckwit strikes again.
I almost don't have the heart to prove you're being a spacker, yet again.
Amost...
Now remind me, which of those two games involved him playing higher up the pitch?
Okey dokey. All the editing has made the last few posts really confusing anyway!
Have fun training. Are you sure it;s not snowing?
I wanted to go for a run but the place was covered in snow. Gym had to do!
Fair enough.
He was shifted for the best player in our team. He is currently the best player in our team. Fergie wont shift him around for anyone.
Watch Berbatov prove to everyone that he can do it in the big games. If he gets the same service, as shown against Bolton at the weekend, he will score goals in the next couple of games. Come on Berba, we need you!
Yep, if the midfield and defence do their jobs, berbs will do his.
I don't have any doubt that he'll score if he gets the service, but providing service was something we didn't manage to do awfully well yesterday. If we suffer the same problems in that respect against Chelsea then we can't expect many goals.
berbatov had a good game vs Bolton but just a few days before the game FErgie had said in an interview that he was not convinced about berba playing as alone striker in a 4 5 1 formation.
And Bayern and Chelsea are not Bolton for sure
I hope I m wrong on this
He'll be fine up top. Hopefully he gets decent support behind him so we can him linking up well.
Key will be in the support to him. I would like to see him shoot more outside the box though, he can do it just doesn't show it often enough.
Maybe that was to delude Bolton into thinking we were going to play a 4-4-2. You know Fergie, he does like to lay false trails for the opposition.
Exactly, I would love it if he got the winner against Chelsea to prove once and for all that, as good as Rooney is, we are not a one team
That was a once off. It won't happen against Chelsea. The service to the front players has been pretty amazing this season, from both wings and through the middle. We should be back on form at Old Trafford
In 4-4-2 creativity has to be shared across the 4. Unless you have one or two wide playmakers. Hargreaves is more of harrier than a creator. He keeps things simple. Which means only 3 midfielders will be doing the creating. Which is far from ideal in a 4-4-2. I'd only play those 2 in the middle ina 4-4-2 if we signed a wide playmaker like Silva.
"Best" still to come?
Not sure personally. I wouldn't hold my breath.
I watched United v Chelsea on Belgian TV and even their analyst harped on and on about Berbatov's lack of movement. I don't usually agree with Belgians.......
Not sure personally. I wouldn't hold my breath.
I watched United v Chelsea on Belgian TV and even their analyst harped on and on about Berbatov's lack of movement. I don't usually agree with Belgians.......
I don't think anybody can defend him just strolling around Chelsea's back four during the game buy you never know with the stat boys on the caf.
I didn't think that he had that bad a game to be honest - he was up against two of the more aerially effective CBs around. Then and again I was distracted by my mate loudly texting everyone in his phonebook everytime Chelsea scored, despite anyone who remotely would care being in the room with us at the time.
Scholes and Carrick in 06/07 is something that I'd like to try and emulate (although we'd be needing a forward to play in the Saha style)
Unfortunately my staunch defence for berbs is starting to wear thin (maybe I'm just deflated by the results of last week) but at this moment in time, I'd happily swap him for a powerful, pacy striker a la Saha.
I would drive him to the medical.
Almost 2 complete seasons now, and I can't see any significant improvement in that time. We're talking about a 29 year old International, not some raw teenager. Difficult to offload without incurring a big financial loss, so I guess we are stuck with him.
Also amuses me one post suggesting Macheda was one-dimensional. Are you joking? The kid scores goals, has a pair, and gets stuck in. What else do you want from an 18 year old?
Also amuses me one post suggesting Macheda was one-dimensional. Are you joking? The kid scores goals, has a pair, and gets stuck in. What else do you want from an 18 year old?
I've been on the pro-Berbatov side of the fence for some time now but my patience is wearing thin.
He slows our attacks down, isn't particulary good in the air and has the workrate of a snail. He doesn't score enough for me, either.
We need a powerful, pacey striker who can give Rooney good support.
He slows our attacks down, isn't particulary good in the air and has the workrate of a snail. He doesn't score enough for me, either.
We need a powerful, pacey striker who can give Rooney good support.
I dont think he had that bad a game tbh. If the midfield was not there to support him, what do you expect him to do? I said it before the game, he would do fine, if he got adequate midfield support, and tbh, he didnt get much, if any, til Nani came on and stretched Chelsea from both sides...
Berbs is just inadequate. His ambling pace gives opposing defenders enough time to regroup. There just doesnt seem to be any urgency about him. Had high hopes, but tired of him now.
The problem is that United won't fit to Berba's style of play and Berba won't adapt to United's style of play. United are known for their face paced counter attacks. But Berba is just too slow to fit that bill. He can't go through defenders, can't go around them nor can he beat many of them aerially. He can't play up front on his own. So I don't see Berbatov being much use to us.
More probably United are used to playing with Berba in the hole and not as a lone striker. Suddenly Rooney's out and the team are expected to adjust to a completely different type of main striker. Takes some time that.
I wanna know why it was up to Fletcher to chase down the Chelsea defenders and Cech on Saturday, that point when his pressuring Cech won us the throw-in it was like he'd gotten fed up and decided to take it upon himself to close them down. Berbatov will hardly ever do that sort of thing and it gives the opposition to much time on the ball, Rooney would have done it from the first minute to the last. Just show a little fight and determination please Berba.
What feckin pisses me off about Berbatov is that, fair enough he comes deep (at times he plays like he's in midfield...but thats not the point), lays the ball off and tries to create something and make things happen. I have no issue with that.
But when there is a winger on the wing...dont feckin amble around 20+ yards from goal. Bust a feckin gut to get in the box and when you get there, stick your boot through the ball and don't just side foot it. Make sure it goes in.
And stop missing headers from 6 yards - you're supposed to be good in the air.
Rant over.
But when there is a winger on the wing...dont feckin amble around 20+ yards from goal. Bust a feckin gut to get in the box and when you get there, stick your boot through the ball and don't just side foot it. Make sure it goes in.
And stop missing headers from 6 yards - you're supposed to be good in the air.
Rant over.
After 2 seasons here he's not about to start now trying to bust a gut to get on the end of a cross. He feels it's beneath him.
Well, we are historically a team who play with good wingers, and rely on good crossing. If he thinks its below him, then maybe he should look for another team.
Try watching the Chelsea game again.
And put myself through that dire performance of him strolling around the pitch, don't worry I'll look at some stats to convince me he did a good job.
Completely agree. But also agree with the point that we are asking him to play out of position. Berba plays in the whole and now we keep asking him to play elsewhere. Berba is class if he has someone ahead of him at all times. But doesn't have the pace (among other things) to do so on his own.
You tell him Boss!
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