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Originally posted by lchk:
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It's not about the mode of payment, it's the vastly inflated price of 7.5 million pounds for a "striker" of the calibre of Forlan

As usual, we got the other clubs' bank managers laughing at our follies</strong><hr></blockquote>

7.5m will seem reasonable for him in the long run.
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Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>I think Fergie was being too arrogant by putting Forlan, who's still a rookie, in as sole striker instead of Ole as being only 2-0 up with a full 45 minutes left was a gamble not worth taking!

We can laugh now & say 3 points is 3 points but if that Bayer header had gone in instead of hitting the post, Fergie wud have been slaughtered by the press this morning!

And the poor chap's performance showed, with him running around aimlessly & miscueing so many of his passes which put the defence under further pressure, altho' I must say he did really try very hard in a position unfamiliar to him! ( I wonder what damage that wud have done for his confidence? )

Kinky, Ole has played so many times for United & Norway as sole striker to good effect & wud have been able to hold on to the ball to relieve the pressure & with the acres of space afforded by the Bayer defence, he wud have converted from at least one of the many chances to run at the Bayer defence & which Forlan fumbled with! ( we have seen Ole break through the defence on a run so many times & convert! We don't have to give examples I'm sure! )



Darko, much better qualified people than you or me have said so, altho' to be fair, I think he ironically improved tremendously during the final games of his career at OT & I was sad to see him go at that stage! :( </strong><hr></blockquote>
Or alternatively the ref would have correctly given a penalty, and after Forlan scored from it they'd be both hailed in the press.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I think South American players should be given a full calendar year before we can expect any decent evaluation as to their long term compatability with the club.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe in Forlorn's case but not so in Veron's he's been playing in Europe for years...
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Maybe in Forlorn's case but not so in Veron's he's been playing in Europe for years...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Playing in Italy isn't exactly playing in England though. The cultural and linguistic differences, as well as different climate etc are still factors. Some players adapt to these faster than others. Some never do.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
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Playing in Italy isn't exactly playing in England though. The cultural and linguistic differences, as well as different climate etc are still factors.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And they are different countries too
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Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Some never do.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hit the nail on the head there I think.

As I am sure you are aware, I was chatting to a mate at LFC the other day who informed me that we were offered Veron for £20m a month before you blew £28.1m - Houllier chatted with Eriksson about it, he said he was too lightweight for the Premiership. Interesting that Demento didn't have a similar chat...
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Hit the nail on the head there I think.

As I am sure you are aware, I was chatting to a mate at LFC the other day who informed me that we were offered Veron for £20m a month before you blew £28.1m - Houllier chatted with Eriksson about it, </strong><hr></blockquote>


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insiders eh?
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Hit the nail on the head there I think.

As I am sure you are aware, I was chatting to a mate at LFC the other day who informed me that we were offered Veron for £20m a month before you blew £28.1m - Houllier chatted with Eriksson about it, he said he was too lightweight for the Premiership. Interesting that Demento didn't have a similar chat...</strong><hr></blockquote>

The verdict is still out on Veron imo. He hasn't been as good as many hoped, but he hasn't necessarily been bad either. Just average imo. Certainly many of us expected more, but then again its been just over a year, and many players have had bad one off years in otherwise stellar careers.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
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The verdict is still out on Veron imo. He hasn't been as good as many hoped, but he hasn't necessarily been bad either. Just average imo. Certainly many of us expected more, but then again its been just over a year, and many players have had bad one off years in otherwise stellar careers.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Didn't Veron have a poor final year for LAzio?
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Hit the nail on the head there I think.

As I am sure you are aware, I was chatting to a mate at LFC the other day who informed me that we were offered Veron for £20m a month before you blew £28.1m - Houllier chatted with Eriksson about it, he said he was too lightweight for the Premiership. Interesting that Demento didn't have a similar chat...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm sure spending £20m a month would have put him off too.
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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I'm sure spending £20m a month would have put him off too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You are obviously :confused:...
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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insiders eh?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well done...
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Hit the nail on the head there I think.

As I am sure you are aware, I was chatting to a mate at LFC the other day who informed me that we were offered Veron for £20m a month before you blew £28.1m - Houllier chatted with Eriksson about it, he said he was too lightweight for the Premiership. Interesting that Demento didn't have a similar chat...</strong><hr></blockquote>


so you brought rocks like diao and diouf and the new zidane,solid all of them
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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What happened to the famous scouse sense of humour? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Where was the joke? ;)
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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so you brought rocks like diao and diouf and the new zidane,solid all of them</strong><hr></blockquote>

It would have been the previous summer..

So we bought the likes of Riise and Dudek who have been superb
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Where was the joke? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>
Don't worry, I can understand why you're not in a good mood, it must be pre-match nerves. ;)
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Originally posted by Davo:
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It would have been the previous summer..

So we bought the likes of Riise and Dudek who have been superb</strong><hr></blockquote>

im not talking how good they are

talking about how he said you didnt buy him because he was lightweight
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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im not talking how good they are

talking about how he said you didnt buy him because he was lightweight</strong><hr></blockquote>

He is

and he has to date been a poor signing...no matter how much many of you are convinced that he'll "come good"
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Originally posted by Davo:
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He is

and he has to date been a poor signing...no matter how much many of you are convinced that he'll "come good"</strong><hr></blockquote>

your boring

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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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so you brought rocks like diao and diouf and the new zidane,solid all of them</strong><hr></blockquote>

Diao is a squad player, Diouf is a 21 year old forward with more goals from open play than anyone in your squad, Cheyrou is a quality young creative player.

The transfer fees for all three don't even make £20m let alone the £28.1m you blew on Veron... but lets not turn this into a Man Utd v Liverpool thread eh Ruddy, can you try that?
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Don't worry, I can understand why you're not in a good mood, it must be pre-match nerves. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Whio said I'm not in a good mood, I'm looking forward to the match but call me picky I'd like to see some element of a joke in a 'joke' response... ;) :p
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Whio said I'm not in a good mood, I'm looking forward to the match but call me picky I'd like to see some element of a joke in a 'joke' response... ;) :p </strong><hr></blockquote>
Not my fault you're not intelligent enough to spot it. :p ;)
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I ran it by Stephen Hawkin and he didn't get it either, he reckons you misread the original post and are a bit :confused: ... ;)
 
Originally posted by R A Softlad:
<strong>I ran it by Stephen Hawkin and he didn't get it either, he reckons you misread the original post and are a bit :confused: ... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>
Who's Stephen Hawkin? I think you might be a bit <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Originally posted by Kinky Melinky:
<strong>Come to think of it, Ole is not much better up front on his own as Forlan is. The only one who seems to be able to pull his weight up front on his own is Ruud.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Mid-season 2000/2001 says different.
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Oh Livvie, come on, you`re just being a Muppet and a Glory Hunter and Day Tripper and every other cliche some posters can muster. Oh and don`t forget to Feck Off, too.

Remember that everybody is welcome to their opinion so long as it echoes those of a few self-appointed politburo posters. :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Mid-season 2000/2001 says different.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He played on his own up front when we beat you...


When I say "played" I mean he was on the pitch..
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Originally posted by Davo:
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He played on his own up front when we beat you...


When I say "played" I mean he was on the pitch..</strong><hr></blockquote>


I never claimed we won every game. :rolleyes:

Nor did I claim that he's the greatest at playing the lone striker role. Just that he has done it successfully.

We all know that none of our players are as good as yours.
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Originally posted by Davo:
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Didn't Veron have a poor final year for LAzio?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not really.....no poorer than any other lazio player (exception of Nesta) when they failed to hold on to the serie a title.Also,they were affected by Sven's decision to leave half way through that season.

Just to intervene with my tuppence worth in this spat between you mancs and scousers,my analysis of Veron is :

a)He is used to being the playmaker....Keane and him in same side doesn't work

b)The team doesn't play to his strengths

c)He never wanted to join in the first place.His heart is with Lazio (failing that,some other italian club or even with his argie mates in Valencia)and you can tell from his body language that he just doesn't want to be in England (let alone the grim north!)

Maybe he will settle down after SAF is replaced at the end of this season by his ex Lazio manager and Keane goes to Celtic!!
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Or alternatively the ref would have correctly given a penalty, and after Forlan scored from it they'd be both hailed in the press.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Forlan wouldn't have taken it.
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Originally posted by R A Softlad:
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Hit the nail on the head there I think.

As I am sure you are aware, I was chatting to a mate at LFC the other day who informed me that we were offered Veron for £20m a month before you blew £28.1m - Houllier chatted with Eriksson about it, he said he was too lightweight for the Premiership. Interesting that Demento didn't have a similar chat...</strong><hr></blockquote>

:rolleyes:

Eriksson was the one who recommended Veron to chose United as he thought he'd be suited to play for United and in England.
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So why would he lie to Houllier? He's been spot on with his assessment so far...
 
"I have a mate who told me Liverpool were offered Veron for 20 mill"

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Your obviously delusional
 
Righty oh... <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
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