Possibly but definitely his discontent with the club definitely started around thw time we were getting Sanchez. I feel Sanchez has really destabilised Pogba. Pogba wants same money as him, lost a good friend in Milkhi, Lukaku seems to be growing a bromance with Sanchez (never saw Pogba & Lukaku in the summer together). This purely all speculation on my behalf but Pogba has had a lot of changes in the past year at the club.
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Possibly but definitely his discontent with the club definitely started around thw time we were getting Sanchez. I feel Sanchez has really destabilised Pogba. Pogba wants same money as him, lost a good friend in Milkhi, Lukaku seems to be growing a bromance with Sanchez (never saw Pogba & Lukaku in the summer together). This purely all speculation on my behalf but Pogba has had a lot of changes in the past year at the club.
Pogba won't leave for a simple reason.. his best mates live in Manchester : Lukaku and JLingz.
Someone somewhere on here said that Pogba and Lukaku had a falling out, not sure of the reason or if indeed true.
Might have something to do with Lukaku ditching Mino and signing for Jay-Z. Mino can’t be happy about that.
It's against Jose's policy of keeping a player (any player) beyond his wish i.e. provided a proper agreeable sum comes up for that player. The man himself said that. Now we'll see...
So many jumping the gun here. Most of the reports seem to come from Spain, so of course Barca try their best to unsettle him. No reliable sports journalist in the UK has mentioned anything, so....
In the end, he'll sign a new contract in October
In the end, he'll sign a new contract in October
Whatever, if all this going to Barca bollocks is true, I’d like to see him gone, it isn’t the first time he’s dicked us about, whether that’s down to his agent who knows but surely an agent wouldn’t act without his clients permission.Think they were joking saying Lukaku replaced Pogba with Sanchez.
Maybe it’s all a stupid fecking game to get more money and if that’s the case, he needs to get his head down and give us a season that warrants the £500,000 or whatever ridiculous amount he wants and think he deserves and if it’s because he doesn’t like mourinho any more, grow a pair and prove the cnut wrong, pull your head out of your arse.
For me, nothing he has done makes me worried at the thought of him leaving, it’s not like we’re losing Keane or Scholes or Robson in their primes.
Going into business with Raiola and Pogba is just a downpayment on this sort of guff. He might end up staying and signing a new deal, but we’ll never be far from this same old guff.
Wasn’t Pogba doing a Man Utd media day yesterday? When would he have had time to go to London, it’s a four hour round trip on the train? Fake news?
That's excellent detective work right there. Except for the fact that your yesterday is clearly August 7th, whereas his tweet is referring to August 6.
Are we going to have “sulky demotivated” Pogba strolling around the pitch (all season? Or until January at least. That’s if Mourinho even plays him - we know how stubborn Jose can be.
Can we really stand in his way if he wants to go? It would be a great move for him.
Can we really stand in his way if he wants to go? It would be a great move for him.
Barcelona can buy pogba from us for another few weeks. Just that we can’t buy anyone after Thursday.
This was exactly the shit situation everyone was worried would happen (if it’s true)
Even if he doesn’t go this week, this story is going to run all month. Cue Pogba refusing to train, etc.
Is he still on the same contract/pay as when he signed?
If he is then this kind of nonsense was inevitable. It'll mean it's coming up to contract negotiation time, and he's just won the world cup...and we signed someonne in January and agreed to pay them much more than him.
We've created a rod for our own back there by agreeing to pay Sanchez silly money. The only way you keep any star player now when it comes to contract time is by offering them parity.
If he is then this kind of nonsense was inevitable. It'll mean it's coming up to contract negotiation time, and he's just won the world cup...and we signed someonne in January and agreed to pay them much more than him.
We've created a rod for our own back there by agreeing to pay Sanchez silly money. The only way you keep any star player now when it comes to contract time is by offering them parity.
So...has Pogba come out yet? A statement from himself would be nice I guess.
I get that, but it's not like we are flush with CM's. Just because their transfer window doesn't close for a while doesn't make it easier for us to sign a replacement in a day.
He has another 4 years on his contract so he can do feck all. He won't sulk for 2 years.
United should not even think to put a new contract in the table for another 18 months. We hold all the cards.
Difficult to distinguish bs from fact given the volume of traffic. I don’t believe Pogba is willing to torch his relationship with the club in order to renegotiate his contract, there are far better ways to do this and enhance your reputation in the process. He wants to play in a system that suits him, and for a manager that won’t keep undermining him. Sell (no less than £150M) or prepare to part company with the manager in order to reintegrate him and any other potentially disenfranchised players.
Yes we can stand in his way. The guy has 3+1 on his contract, a contract he signed and let's not forget that he turned down Real Madrid to sign for United! Would you not class Real as a great move for him at the time?
As nonsensical as having to choose between the manager and player is, I still picked Pogba to stay in the other thread, but if there's the slightest hint of him refusing to train or that kind of insubordination, we should get rid pronto.
Yep, this will definitely happen.
I can believe there is some substance to the stories. It’s clear pogba and Jose don’t get on. Whoever’s fault that is is largely irrelevant but does highlight again Jose’s inability to deal with certain personalities.
Would rather Jose left than pogba tbh.
Actually, I think you are completely off track with my post. Sometimes with me, you have to look a little deeper.
Seems strange not to have had a single pap snap, it’s not like Picadilly is Fort Knox but okay.
If he really wants to go then fair enough. Just get massive fee for him. Jose prefers 4-2-3-1 and he’s had to alter that to suit Pogba: To ‘unlock’ Pogba as they like to say.
The squad will be weaker without Pogba but, unless he’s willing to do for Mou what he did for Deschamps, United may be more tactically coherent.
Pogba is essentially United's show pony right now. Strong WC topped with being a champion. In a sense he is the biggest pulling power. Mourinho veritably isn't anymore. His antics and brand of football have burned that bridge. Pobga must be wondering if the upcoming season will be Mou moaning and taking digs at him and add to that tumescent football. No fun on or off the pitch.
At WC you could see he was hell bent on playing for his team. Chasing and running up and down constantly. Doing the dirty work. So far cry from the Paul who strolled around quite a few matches last season in mid.
That is the player United wants to show up in a couple of days. But has Pobga been on record saying things since WC will be giving his all the coming season, rallying troops to cause, determined to show what kind of player he is? He has been completely silent. At the moment there is no clue which Paul plays on Friday.
I would be very concerned about the signs and vibe concerning Pobga if I where a United fan. If he leaves what else United has to offer for other prospects? Come and play with Fellaini and Herrera? There are only wages to entice them then.
At WC you could see he was hell bent on playing for his team. Chasing and running up and down constantly. Doing the dirty work. So far cry from the Paul who strolled around quite a few matches last season in mid.
That is the player United wants to show up in a couple of days. But has Pobga been on record saying things since WC will be giving his all the coming season, rallying troops to cause, determined to show what kind of player he is? He has been completely silent. At the moment there is no clue which Paul plays on Friday.
I would be very concerned about the signs and vibe concerning Pobga if I where a United fan. If he leaves what else United has to offer for other prospects? Come and play with Fellaini and Herrera? There are only wages to entice them then.
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I have no idea if it happened or didn't, I was just responding to the notion that there's something implausible about the timeline.
Apparently he was happy and positive at the media day yesterday, which I'd say isn't the actions of somebody desperate to leave or unwilling to pull on the shirt ever again. I've seen a video of him having a laugh with Bailly, smiling with that guy that posted the Instagram story saying he's going nowhere. Mandy Henry made it sound like he was fine.
I trust this sort of stuff over these stories from nobodies on twitter. We heard all the same shit last year and Pogba made it clear it was bollocks then. I think we have a policy of ignoring this stuff as a club and not dignifying this stuff with a response.
What I will say is that I think Pogba needs to start feeling the love from the fans. He strikes me as being a bit like Ronaldo in that it brings out the best in him. The negativity and OTT criticism probably does wear him down. It must cross his mind that if his own fans don't believe in him then what's the point. Hopefully there's more positivity this season but the last few weeks say the opposite, which is stupid because we are just creating more problems for our own team.
I trust this sort of stuff over these stories from nobodies on twitter. We heard all the same shit last year and Pogba made it clear it was bollocks then. I think we have a policy of ignoring this stuff as a club and not dignifying this stuff with a response.
What I will say is that I think Pogba needs to start feeling the love from the fans. He strikes me as being a bit like Ronaldo in that it brings out the best in him. The negativity and OTT criticism probably does wear him down. It must cross his mind that if his own fans don't believe in him then what's the point. Hopefully there's more positivity this season but the last few weeks say the opposite, which is stupid because we are just creating more problems for our own team.
I doubt he will play on Friday.
I am a huge Pogba fan, but I am looking forward to him maturing.
I would swap him in a heartbeat for a young Paul Scholes.
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I'll be very shocked and surprised if he refuses to train/play etc. can't see that happening at all, I'm sure Mino would like him to do it, but I don't see Pogba agreeing to those sort of antics.
Would damage his brand...
It's obvious boys and gals finally one of our players is using other club's to get a new contract. To be honest I hate this side of the fence but it's not as humiliating as when you think you are about to sign someone only to find that they signed a new contract.
The idea of a player using Barca to get a contract renewal with us makes me feel warm inside, sort of.
He won't play Friday because he is just back from vacation but this will just add to the speculation and will be used by the media. In a way, I hope more of the World Cup players are rested on Friday as this will make it a bit more credible that the late return is the reason, rather than transfer speculations.
In my mind it is a good strategy by him to ignore any type of rumours. If he were to deny the Barca speculation now, he would have to deny every bit of media from now on. If not, the next rumour he doesn't deny will be seen as true. If he seems happy during media days and he is taking part in training, laughing with the other players, then this is a better piece of evidence than the constant twitter noise from the media.
In my mind it is a good strategy by him to ignore any type of rumours. If he were to deny the Barca speculation now, he would have to deny every bit of media from now on. If not, the next rumour he doesn't deny will be seen as true. If he seems happy during media days and he is taking part in training, laughing with the other players, then this is a better piece of evidence than the constant twitter noise from the media.
Whilst I agree, I don’t think it would ‘damage his brand’ in the long term.
As long as he is playing well, the biggest and best clubs will want him.
Tell that to Adidas.
One of their main marketing guys, refusing to train and play for his club?
Yeah, it would damage it/him alright.
Course, Barcelona and Madrid would want him. Will end up playing for both
Why don't we just let a council of our star players decide who the manager should be, keep the managers on a monthly contract so they can vote him out at anytime. What could go wrong!?!
He has four years though, and he hasn't exactly set the world alight with us. Ronaldo used to do this with us every summer and we usually caved because his improved his performances season on season. I don't see why we'd offer him a new contract now. Besides, isn't he already our next highest paid player after Sanchez?
I am coming round to the idea that this is all bollocks, just Spanish media trying to unsettle him for whatever reason.
We have seen nothing concrete from reputable journos over here, I think at most he wants a new contract.
We have seen nothing concrete from reputable journos over here, I think at most he wants a new contract.
A player with 4 years (3+1) left on his contract throwing the toys out the pram and downing tools in training to move after his current club's transfer deadline has already shut...
I mean, if he did that I'd keep him in the u23s for not one but two whole seasons. feck the money.
I mean, if he did that I'd keep him in the u23s for not one but two whole seasons. feck the money.
It's all about money to make him the highest paid player in the club.
https://www.totalsportek.com/money/manchester-united-player-salaries/
He's currently on 290K/week compared to Alexis' 350k. I recall how rumours circulated when Sanchez arrived from the Pogcamp that Pogba was unhappy that Alexis is indeed the highest paid player in the club.
The guy won the world cup, perfect to negotiate a bumper deal, he has an agent that would do everything to get the money, him to Barca is all smoke to get him a better deal at United.
https://www.totalsportek.com/money/manchester-united-player-salaries/
He's currently on 290K/week compared to Alexis' 350k. I recall how rumours circulated when Sanchez arrived from the Pogcamp that Pogba was unhappy that Alexis is indeed the highest paid player in the club.
The guy won the world cup, perfect to negotiate a bumper deal, he has an agent that would do everything to get the money, him to Barca is all smoke to get him a better deal at United.
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