Our total wage bill is less than Real and around the level of City,Chelsea. United,City and Chelsea wage bill is around double that of Spurs so players at these clubs must be on bigger wages.
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Our total wage bill is less than Real and around the level of City,Chelsea. United,City and Chelsea wage bill is around double that of Spurs so players at these clubs must be on bigger wages.
So now people started to use "Sillyseason" as their source to make points?
I don't know anywhere else that has reliable numbers. Are they wrong? If so I'm sorry, but I tried to find the wages from other clubs out of curiosity and this is what I found.
I don't know anywhere else that has reliable numbers. Are they wrong? If so I'm sorry, but I tried to find the wages from other clubs out of curiosity and this is what I found.
It is wrong. It also excluded few Bayern few players who are on massive wages, same with Madrid. They have the highest wage bill or second highest, only Ronaldo and Bale in the top 20 is far from belivable. Madrid fan posted here that Kroos is on 300K plus per week and he isn't mentioned in that list.
Also IIRC Dybala wages is post tax, so he isn't on such a low wages either. Anyways there are many rumors that he will be getting 7 Million net per year in the new contract.
How annoying, any site that may be used as a reliable source on wages? It's really difficult to know.
You're on. So for £100 the bet is that Alli will still be part of the Spurs squad after the summer 2018 transfer window has closed and so will still be at Spurs for 2018-19 season. I say he will and you say he won't. OK?
There isn't. Usually Serie A wages are reported by GDS (Post tax).
Perhaps wage details should be difficult to find.
Is it not a touch personal ?
Is it not a touch personal ?
LOL this will be interesting.
I recall at the end of last season or maybe even just earlier in the season I was one of those, 'Spurs will fall back outside the top 4, Utd will somehow (because of its size + money + Mourinho) be challenging for the title/top 4 at the very least'. Oh boy, how wrong was I.
Gotta admire what Poch and Spurs are doing.
I am on but this bet is on whether Alli will still be at Spurs when he steps on the pitch for the opening of your new stadium so if the stadium opening date gets delayed after the 2018 summer transfer window has closed and Alii is still at Spurs, my bet still stands.
Lol are you a bookie?
Bullshit. Since Roman bought Chelsea, they have been the most successful club in England. During that time the only regular homegrown players have been Terry, Lampard and Cahill (and mostly, only 1 or two of them at the same time). Stability of homegrown players is as big as a legend as 'you'll be successful by sticking with the same manager'. Get a good manager with a plan, and good players regardless of their nationality and you'll be good.
I never got this about the new stadium. Seriously, unless the player has been a Spurs fan since he was a kid, why would he give a shit about the stadium? Assuming that he leaves Spurs, he will likely go to some big club like Madrid, Barca, Bayern or United (Chelsea, City and PSG are possibilities too). Take the first four clubs, they already have a bigger, better and more legendary stadium than Spurs will ever have. It isn't like he will go and play in a stadium with 2000 fans each week, instead, he will be playing in a bigger stadium than that of Spurs.
For what is worth, I think that Dele Alli would stay at Spurs for at least the next season, probably the next two. Or at least I would have done so if I was in his position. He is having a very good football education under Pochetino, and while he will lose a shitload of money during those 2 years, by the end of those 2 years he will likely be a better player than joining a new club, having all that period when a new player is trying to find his place in a new club, etc etc. A lot of players prefer to stay at their club until they feel that they are totally ready to make the jump. Neymar could have joined Barca a year earlier, Pogba could have left Juve a year or two earlier, but they stick with that club until they became better, and in the end, it payed off in financial terms getting massive wages when they made the move. If Pogba left Juve 2 years earlier, he wouldn't have got the same wages he is now, and if he had flopped, then things would have turned ugly also financial wise. On the other hand, you have players who make the move too early like Gotze and quite often it doesn't work.
Anyway, Alli staying IMO has nothing to do with their stadium, and all about improving. Spurs are a bit more patient than most big clubs, and he is flourishing there. If he continues his development, he can command a 300k/w wages in two years, and he would still be 23 at that time. A very good position to be on. And while he will be staying for now, he will eventually leave in at most 2 years. Unless Spurs offer him near as much in wages as some potential buyer (which I think is extremely unlikely) and they start winning trophies (which is unlikely too).
For what is worth, I think that Dele Alli would stay at Spurs for at least the next season, probably the next two. Or at least I would have done so if I was in his position. He is having a very good football education under Pochetino, and while he will lose a shitload of money during those 2 years, by the end of those 2 years he will likely be a better player than joining a new club, having all that period when a new player is trying to find his place in a new club, etc etc. A lot of players prefer to stay at their club until they feel that they are totally ready to make the jump. Neymar could have joined Barca a year earlier, Pogba could have left Juve a year or two earlier, but they stick with that club until they became better, and in the end, it payed off in financial terms getting massive wages when they made the move. If Pogba left Juve 2 years earlier, he wouldn't have got the same wages he is now, and if he had flopped, then things would have turned ugly also financial wise. On the other hand, you have players who make the move too early like Gotze and quite often it doesn't work.
Anyway, Alli staying IMO has nothing to do with their stadium, and all about improving. Spurs are a bit more patient than most big clubs, and he is flourishing there. If he continues his development, he can command a 300k/w wages in two years, and he would still be 23 at that time. A very good position to be on. And while he will be staying for now, he will eventually leave in at most 2 years. Unless Spurs offer him near as much in wages as some potential buyer (which I think is extremely unlikely) and they start winning trophies (which is unlikely too).
That's not the bet I'm offering - the bet I'm offering is about Alli still being at Spurs for the 2018-19 season. It's not a bet about stadium opening dates.
Yes - the bet was never intended to be about the stadium opening date, regardless of what @MullerUtd wants to turn it into.
The bet I'm offering is about Alli still being at Spurs for the 2018-19 season (i.e. the season after next), that being when the new stadium is expected to open. There are still no takers for this bet, despite all the posts about the supposed forthcoming exodus of our star players. As I said before, curious that.
I agree with Glaston on this issue. I wouldn't expect Ali to move until the 2019-20 Season. Then he'll be leaving with Pooch to replace Maureen most likely.
A bigger capacity, but not better ... partly because they were all built some while ago and are not state-of-the-art.
I was a bookie back in my school days when I was like 14-18, I did make some serious money back then but stopped after almost getting my future ruined. A Liverpool fan in my school lost £1,500 to me in the 2006/2007 Champions League Final as he bet on Liverpool to win the Cup, Liverpool lost and he refused to pay. I was seriously pissed off as he won like over £3,500 from me and I always pay out. I hired a hustler for £50 and he splashed paint all over that lad's house and nailed a pig head to the ledge of his front grille, was caught and ratted on me. Almost got charged by the police but the case was dropped due to my young age, good testimonial from teacher etc but got suspended from school for 2 weeks.
Cheers mate! Thanks for pointing this out.
When it comes to betting, it's better to make things specific and I'm taking on your bet going by your statement WORD for WORD. This was your original statement:
I've said that I'm willing to bet that Alli steps out for Spurs when we start playing in the new stadium ... but there have been no takers so far. How curious.
Nothing you said here has anything to do with Alli still being at Spurs for the 2018-2019 season but whether he will still be playing for Spurs in your new stadium. Therefore if your new stadium's opening date gets delayed somehow and if the 2018-2019 summer transfer window has closed, technically my bet still stands.
It doesn't stand as far as I'm concerned because that's not the spirit of the bet I intended ... a bet (like this thread) that's all about Alli and not any unexpected potential delays in the new stadium opening date. Even if it's most likely that Spurs will start the 2018-19 season in the new stadium, the bet I intended - and only bet I'm offering is about Alli still being at Spurs for 2018-19.
So, following on from your attempt to change the spirit of the bet - and so potentially spin out the time period until 3 seasons from now - I gave you the specifics. And as of now I'm presuming that you're unwilling to take that bet.
You are right. Automated sprinkler coverage, VR tours and NFL franchises are much more important to players than size and attendance.
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Maybe try focusing on the substantial aspects of the new stadium rather than just being silly? Just a suggestion.
PS. There's a distinction between bigger and better - a distinction made in the post I replied to originally. Have a bigger capacity does not automatically make for a better stadium. Ask West Hams fans if you doubt that.
Spirit of the bet?
did you just invent this new betting terrminology? I don't mean to be pedantic but this involves money so everything has to be in black and white. Go have a look at some of the specials outright bet offers on bookmakers like Bet365 or PaddyPower, everything is very specific and feck me sideway if they somehow decide to change their terms, the outrage from the public would be massive. This bet involves Alii anyway so I don't see what is the issue. As I've already mentioned, I'm willing to take on your bet but going word by word of your original statement so it seems that you are not willing to take on that bet with me; and instead somehow reword it to the end of the 2018-2019 summer transfer window which you didn't show the slightest hint of mention in your original statement.Spirit of the bet?
2018-19 was clearly implied in my original wording, since that is the widely expected opening date for the new stadium. But I am not entering into a bet as desired by you that hinges in part on potential delays to construction schedules.
The bet is - and is supposed to be - about Alli and Spurs, not construction timetables. Of course you know this, but decided to try it on anyway. This is not Bet365 or PaddyPower.
I'm not a Spurs fan and I don't follow your club closely so I wouldn't know what is the expected opening date of your new stadium. All I know is I am taking on your bet word for word and you decide to reword it and I'm not keen to take up a bet with someone who changes his terms of the bet so quickly. If you are so confident Alli would still be at Spurs, why would you be bothered by the fact of the delay of the opening of your new stadium. Perhaps deep down inside, you know that he might leave. Are you chickening out now? Aha caught you!
The proposed bet was about the next 2 seasons. Beyond that is too far ahead for me to bother betting about anything - whether it be Alli, Levy continuing to be a baldie or the UK not sliding under the sea.
I'm with Muller on this one. You said you're willing to bet that Alli is a Spurs player when you start playing in the new stadium. That leaves yourself exposed to possible construction delays. Own up to your mistake and take the bet.
I'm with Muller on this one. You said you're willing to bet that Alli is a Spurs player when you start playing in the new stadium. That leaves yourself exposed to possible construction delays. Own up to your mistake and take the bet.
I've said all I'm going to say on the subject. If you don't agree then too bad.
There's no such thing as implying a bet!
I mean come on..
I mean come on..
Ashley Cole was there for about 7 years too. Joe Cole stuck around for a while. Seems a pretty significant chunk.
Probably at spurs next season... but if he repeats this season probably gone for a crazy amount of money
What kind of bid would it take to prize him away? No-brainer if remotely possible.
We'd have to move our club to a different country because there's no way he goes to anyone inside the EPL
Because he wasn't raised in the Spurs youth setup and did not dream of playing for Spurs since he was a toddler and has no special allegiance to the club other than enjoying his footie for a couple of years?
£100m and Levy would take it - no matter what any Spuds fans say on here.
How much would it take to get Alli realistically? £100M + ?
Signing a new contract just ensures the club get a massive fee, not worth the paper they're written on and this guff is based on someone asking him if he'll be at Spurs next season and him replying "You never know ", not exactly evidence he's going to be there is it?
As for your bet, @MullerUtd is 100% correct, he agreed to the bet and then glaston changed the wording, the bet was him playing in the new stadium NOT playing in a certain year.
I was talking about evidence that Alli is "unhappy, or soon to leave Spurs" - the quote you mentioned is not evidence of either. The bet I'm offering - pertaining to the start of the 2018-19 season - is open for you to take up if you wish.
Why would he, when the most important thing for him is to keep Pochettino happy? Besides, Allli's sale value may well to go up again next season, so that's another reason for not selling now.