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The issue with Rice is primarily that we would be overpaying massively, which would leave less funds for other players. Realistically, we need about four good additions to be competitive for Top 4 next season, so going all-in on Rice would be shooting ourselves in the foot.

Better to let him go elsewhere if £100m is the price, and go for other players.
 
He won't ever be anything more than solid. That isn't a £70m+ midfielder.

Good at what he does but west ham never win any midfield battles. I just don't see it with him.
 
We need at least 4 signings alongside him, why the hell the club is insisting on breaking the "piggy bank" on him ?
 
With all the positive noises about changes elsewhere, I'm unwilling to believe we'd be so stupid as to spend that much on Rice this summer. For now I'll assume it's just Ogden linking us to known names for easy clicks. Ditto any Harry Kane stories.
 
This is the kind of signing for 100m+ that the club would’ve made in a heartbeat under Woodward at the expense of filling out other needs...

Hope we've moved passed that as a club but these new reports make me fear that we're seriously trying to talk ourselves into it. Tidy player but not worth the asking price given everything we need this summer
 
This is completely at odds with the new structure in place at the club.
It must be bollocks, I feel as though lots of journalists have lost sources in this big shake up.

I dont think we’ll go anywhere near Rice for that cash. In my opinion he ends up at City and good luck to him.
 
TrebleChamp99 said:
This is completely at odds with the new structure in place at the club.
It must be bollocks, I feel as though lots of journalists have lost sources in this big shake up.

I dont think we’ll go anywhere near Rice for that cash. In my opinion he ends up at City and good luck to him.
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Is it? We are yet to see what they are about
 
This definitely sounds like a made up article to big up Declan Rice. So we have 200 million transfer budget but we are willing to buy just one player for 100 million? Doesn’t make sense and don’t even want him here. Overrated
 
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Cassidy said:
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It was reported in the Athletic that The two head scouts we just saw leave and Matt Judge we’re encouraged to leave so to speak due to the investment of over 1Bln with little to show for it.

You don’t do that then go and spend 100m+ on one player in a rebuild who will likely need to be convinced to joking with astronomical wages.

Nonsense story.
 
Should have signed him last summer, United MUST bring him in ASAP and build around him as our new midfield dynamo.

For all those doubters, wait and see.
 
I would give uv the club if United broke the bank for this overhyped british player. Same if we gave Pogba the 500k per week contract or renewed Lingards contract.

On the other side i can see United changing so all this bs is probably paper talk
 
Mark Ogden has been a bit poo with United transfer news in recent years and hopefully this is no different

Rice would be a very good signing on paper but with so many incomings needed, I don’t see the point in blowing the whole budget on one player

Can consider him a Matic replacement. Need to also replace Pogba, Greenwood & Cavani.
 
We never learn. Not that I'm against Rice but spending 100m on him is sheer incompetence.
 
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Bizarre if true. No one is interested because the fee will be ridiculous. He's a good player but not even close to a £100m player and I'd argue no DM is close to that mark either.

I think he's a good player and think he'd be a good fit but the price tag should mean he's not even in the thinking this summer.
 
saivet said:
Bizarre if true. No one is interested because the fee will be ridiculous. He's a good player but not even close to a £100m player and I'd argue no DM is close to that mark either.

I think he's a good player and think he'd be a good fit but the price tag should mean he's not even in the thinking this summer.
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I love Declan - have wanted him for years - but nobody else going for him this year is a positive. It means we can wait a year when he’ll be 30m cheaper and sort our shit out elsewhere. Unless we do have a huge kitty this summer and can raise another 100 plus million we have too many holes to fill to be able to spend this sort of money on one player. Ditto for Kane.
 
City have a structure in place which took years to develop and all designed for one coach. Last season Pep wanted to spend the GDP of Ireland on signing Grealish and Kane.

If we get Rice in for a ton of money(Which I really don’t think will happen)that doesn’t suddenly mean these recent changes in club are now pointless.
 
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choccy77 said:
Should have signed him last summer, United MUST bring him in ASAP and build around him as our new midfield dynamo.

For all those doubters, wait and see.
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If it takes 150m as quoted by Moyes, still a MUST ASAP in your opinion?
 
Think this is dependent on Pogba. If he is staying, we will spend our midfield budget on Rice. If not, we will move on and sign cheaper alternatives.

Just pure assumption.
 
Seemed to be a waste of 100 million. For that fee you want someone who will be among the best few players in the entire league.
 
When City overpaid for Grealish last season they already had a title winning side and were looking to improve quite literally one or two areas. If we were in that position then given our resources it might be justifiable to overpay for the luxury of getting your money-no-object first choice pick in a given position.

In our case though, we have near an entire team to build across multiple transfer windows. At that point transfer efficiency becomes vital as overpaying is the difference between improving another area of the team this season or not. And whatever about Rice as a player, he's one of the least transfer-efficient purchases we could make this summer.

There isn't a chance in hell that across all of world football no other midfielder could be brought in to do a high-level job for us in that same position for 50m or less. And opting for that other option could be the difference between being able to sign another first choice player in CB, CM, RB, RW, wherever.

For Rice to justify not only that extra money over all other options but also that opportunity cost at the very start of a rebuild, he would have to prove to be arguably the best midfielder in Europe. Anything less and it's difficult to justify hamstringing the first step of a rebuild by committing so much of our limited resources into just one player.
 
Rice isn't close to being the player we need at the price he would cost. We need to bring in 4+ players who will transform the energy levels and direction of the club, not a single "star player" and a couple of cheapo players we are compromising on because we don't have the money. If things are going much better at the end of next season we can talk about putting serious money into individual players. He simply doesn't represent good value for money if we are moving in the directing I hope we are.
 
sullydnl said:
When City overpaid for Grealish last season they already had a title winning side and were looking to improve quite literally one or two areas. If we were in that position then given our resources it might be justifiable to overpay for the luxury of getting your money-no-object first choice pick in a given position.

In our case though, we have near an entire team to build across multiple transfer windows. At that point transfer efficiency becomes vital as overpaying is the difference between improving another area of the team this season or not. And whatever about Rice as a player, he's one of the least transfer-efficient purchases we could make this summer.

There isn't a chance in hell that across all of world football no other midfielder could be brought in to do a high-level job for us in that same position for 50m or less. And opting for that other option could be the difference between being able to sign another first choice player in CB, CM, RB, RW, wherever.

For Rice to justify that not only that extra money over all other options but also that opportunity cost at the very start of a rebuild, he would have to prove to be arguably the best midfielder in Europe. Anything less and it's difficult to justify hamstringing the first step of a rebuild by committing so much of our limited resources into one player.
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It hurts me so much seeing Liverpool consistently sign players for under £50m who come in and instantly improve their squad. Diaz being the latest. Yet watch us fixate on £100m players.

If we were recruiting a profile of player to operate within a system, we should be able to come up with lists upon lists of potential signings. Instead, with us, our scouting seems to be done watching MOTD.

I was never convinced by Rice but this season he has grown. However, has he grown so much that we should spend £100m on him. Knowing that might stop us from making other badly needed buys? No.
 
choccy77 said:
Yup

Rice is the complete player we desperately need to take hold of that midfield.
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In that case are you content with leaving other areas of the team not strengthened, since it is likely 150m will take almost, maybe even our whole budget?
 
Decided I would actually like him here but the price is surely a no go for anyone
 
 
darioterios said:
In that case are you content with leaving other areas of the team not strengthened, since it is likely 150m will take almost, maybe even our whole budget?
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This argument has been used for last 2 seasons.

The squad is very poor, the first 11 is even worse.

The main area we have neglected has been Midfield constantly.

Id rather bring in a quality midfielder this summer and then slowly build around him then buying 35+ strikers over and over who barely do anything aside from collect paychecks.

If the club got rid of the rubbish and saved money on wages and new extention fee's, we would have enough money to build over the next 4 windows to become a threat.

We can't do everything at once, but let's do it right and make that midfield the core.

If Rice wasn't English, the majority of criticisers on this forum would be masterbating over him hourly.
 
choccy77 said:
This argument has been used for last 2 seasons.

The squad is very poor, the first 11 is even worse.

The main area we have neglected has been Midfield constantly.

Id rather bring in a quality midfielder this summer and then slowly build around him then buying 35+ strikers over and over who barely do anything aside from collect paychecks.

If the club got rid of the rubbish and saved money on wages and new extention fee's, we would have enough money to build over the next 4 windows to become a threat.

We can't do everything at once, but let's do it right and make that midfield the core.
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I agree with this, seems odd so many are advocating bringing in 2 or 3 cheaper players who more than likely will end up being named in the deadwood threads in a year or twos time rather than bringing in quality

That being said 100m for Rice is still mental
 
choccy77 said:
This argument has been used for last 2 seasons.

The squad is very poor, the first 11 is even worse.

The main area we have neglected has been Midfield constantly.

Id rather bring in a quality midfielder this summer and then slowly build around him then buying 35+ strikers over and over who barely do anything aside from collect paychecks.

If the club got rid of the rubbish and saved money on wages and new extention fee's, we would have enough money to build over the next 4 windows to become a threat.

We can't do everything at once, but let's do it right and make that midfield the core.

If Rice wasn't English, the majority of criticisers on this forum would be masterbating over him hourly.
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If he wasn't English he wouldn't be quoted at 120m pounds...
 
choccy77 said:
This argument has been used for last 2 seasons.

The squad is very poor, the first 11 is even worse.

The main area we have neglected has been Midfield constantly.

Id rather bring in a quality midfielder this summer and then slowly build around him then buying 35+ strikers over and over who barely do anything aside from collect paychecks.

If the club got rid of the rubbish and saved money on wages and new extention fee's, we would have enough money to build over the next 4 windows to become a threat.

We can't do everything at once, but let's do it right and make that midfield the core.

If Rice wasn't English, the majority of criticisers on this forum would be masterbating over him hourly.
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So you'd rather spend £100-150m on a £60-70m CM whilst ignoring our holes at CB, RB, LB and ST? And that's without factoring in the dozens of inevitable departures. That's HORRIFIC squad planning it would be 2 steps forward two steps backwards.
None of Liverpool, Chelsea and City spent over £60m to buy a DM to improve their teams, with Scouting it's not a hard position to find solid players in the £50-60m range while spending in other areas.
We need an overhaul, spending nine figures on a DM isn't the way to solve this problem.
 
charlenefan said:
I agree with this, seems odd so many are advocating bringing in 2 or 3 cheaper players who more than likely will end up being named in the deadwood threads in a year or twos time rather than bringing in quality

That being said 100m for Rice is still mental
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Our big purchases in the £70-90m category have been so successful haven't they?:rolleyes:
 
RkkMan said:
Our big purchases in the £70-90m category have been so successful haven't they?:rolleyes:
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What an utterly stupid response

I could A- easily name countless signings who cost less that 70m who have been equally as shit and B- point out players who cost 70m or more other clubs have signed that have resulted in periods of success

oh and before I forget

:rolleyes:
 
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