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If we cannot get him for circa 40 million, then he is not worth it. 90 million, jesus.
To the Bissouma thread.
I’m not averse to signing anyone who is a better version of McT and Fred.But signing a DM isnt adding nuance, its changing how we play. What use is Rice when Maguire and another are stepping beyond him with the ball?
We also play 4-2-3-1 and in that formation neither midfielder can be a sitting DM. In a 4-3-3 we would use Rice but thst isnt how we play. We need better versions of Fred and McTominay, not a Declan Rice.
What have they been smoking down there???
There are plenty of cheaper options from other leagues. Proven premiership quality has some value, of course. £90m sounds steep.Surely there's a better option from another league for half the price.
They can go and shite for 90m.
his value probably go down during the Euros
Given how we operate it's possible but doesn't make any sense as Pogba isn't a DM and we have been playing him LW, and Van de Beek barely plays at all and when he does it's usually as a #10.
I've just read the article, and Matt Law is reporting that it will cost at least £90m to sign him and the player's preference is to join Chelsea over United and City . He goes on to say that Chelsea will attempt to use Tammy Abraham in a potential deal, and if that fails, they will turn to Aurelien Tchouameni or Julian Weigl as cheaper alternatives.
Nothing wrong with Weigl.I'd take him.I've just read the article, and Matt Law is reporting that it will cost at least £90m to sign him and the player's preference is to join Chelsea over United and City . He goes on to say that Chelsea will attempt to use Tammy Abraham in a potential deal, and if that fails, they will turn to Aurelien Tchouameni or Julian Weigl as cheaper alternatives.
his value probably go down during the Euros
For £90m you get two VdBs.If the £90m figure is even close to being true forget it. There are some valid concerns about Rice anyway, and we could legitimately get two good level midfielders for that.
Reminds me a bit of when Leicester wanted £80m for Maddison. Would've improved us a bit at the time but wasn't exactly the missing piece either. Thankfully we ducked that one and went on to sign Fernandes for a more reasonable fee.
It had to be be 4-2-3-1 to get the best out of Bruno though. If you have Rice sitting and Bruno supplying the strikers then we will lose every midfield battle to a midfield 3. City with their false 9 will destroy us, for example.I’m not averse to signing anyone who is a better version of McT and Fred.
However, we only play so called 4231 because of the personnel we have. Even so, the two can comprise one more defensive player and one more attacking or all-rounder type.
A DM is rather useful if you have a CB who runs into the oppo box, especially a Rice type who can play CB and drop in there temporarily.
Or two Fabinhos. Or three Bellinghams.For £90m you get two VdBs.
Or nearly 20, N'golo Kante's, if you go shopping in the French league.For £90m you get two VdBs.
Kante comes in pairs so 40. For the price of 20. Damn.Or nearly 20, N'golo Kante's, if you go shopping in the French league.
The scouts will have the reports on numerous players from around Europe and the world. But it depends on Solskjaer if he wants us to take a chance on Declan Rice or a Aurelien Tchouameni from Monaco, if I was to use one example.Imo this one is completely gone with the combo of suggestions he'd cost £90m, a lot of recent suggestions that Lingard will be returning to Utd, and now Chelsea are interested again. Time for our scouts to do some serious work. Find an unknown gem. I'm sure there are plenty of great talents for this role in less well-followed European leagues. It will be more of a risk but frankly there are no great players available in this position if Rice and Ndidi are not options, so if we were to take a risk in any position it should probably be this one.
That's true..Kante comes in pairs so 40. For the price of 20. Damn.
Sounds like your idea of how we would play with Rice is different to what I imagine.It had to be be 4-2-3-1 to get the best out of Bruno though. If you have Rice sitting and Bruno supplying the strikers then we will lose every midfield battle to a midfield 3. City with their false 9 will destroy us, for example.
The scouts will have the reports on numerous players from around Europe and the world. But it depends on Solskjaer if he wants us to take a chance on Declan Rice or a Aurelien Tchouameni from Monaco, if I was to use one example.
Here’s hoping!Or nearly 20, N'golo Kante's, if you go shopping in the French league.
He's had a very good season and has shown remarkable consistency in performance. He would likely cost less than half of what West Ham are asking for Declan Rice imo.Tchoumeni would have been my first recommendation tbh so I would hope he'd be open to going for him, especially if available for a reasonable price.