I would not be surprised if that is also part of the reason Ole has given him starting position in the run of the games. Try competing with an excellent, starting Man United keeper, Pickford!
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De Gea was in goal for the game we lost, Henderson in goal for the win at Brammall Lane. Will keep an eye out. I remember Palace tried it at Selhurst Park, he came through the crowd took the ball cleanly and they didn’t bother again.
He's got a tight grip on the position now. 3 or 4 times he was in position to sweep up dangerous moments and I couldn't help but think De Gea wouldn't have been there and we'd be in trouble
I'd be surprised. Pickford doesn't particularly look like being dropped and is (possibly) a better distributor of the ball than the other English goalkeepers, which is (possibly) important to Southgate. If he was gonna get dropped then you'd think it would have been during previous terrible club form on his part. Not like Southgate hasn't had plenty of opportunity to do it.
Seems like Pope is ahead of Henderson in the pecking order too, no? Seems unlikely he'll jump ahead of both in time.
At the beginning it felt like he was a worse keeper than DDG but we were a better team with him there. He's still not reached DDG's level but he's getting a lot closer now.
Are there any stats yet of how many chances/shots we concede with either of them in goal? Feels like it's a lot less with Dean, even if he might not save as many of them.
Are there any stats yet of how many chances/shots we concede with either of them in goal? Feels like it's a lot less with Dean, even if he might not save as many of them.
I'd be surprised if he is England #1 by the summer. Southgate would be daft to go with Pickford though, he is far too erratic. Pope is a much more solid option.
The problem with Pope is he looks shocking with the ball at his feet, likely the result of playing for a team like Burnley. He needs a move to a bigger club where he will be expected to play out more often.
True, he is the weakest of the 3 with the ball at his feet.
That said, Southgate likes to talk a big game about playing possession football, but they rarely seem to against good teams in tournaments. They seem to be more direct, and with an emphasis on set pieces. If I was Southgate, I'd rather have a solid, dependable keeper with iffy distribution, than someone as unpredictable as Pickford just because he can pass. Though maybe Henderson is the middleground between the two?
I reckon if he holds onto the United number one shirt he’s got every chance.
Hasn't he? I feel safer with Henderson in goal than De Gea and i think that's all that matters. Obviously at his peak De Gea was one of, if not the best keeper in the world but those days seem gone sadly.
Yeh I think so. Logically he's the best choice for England at the moment but I suspect that he hasn't earned that trust from Southgate and Pickford will remain the first choice.
His willingness to come off of his line will enable the defence to push higher up the pitch even without a pacey CB
Even during De Gea's peak years when on the surface he was saving/winning us points many of us wondered if the flaws in his game was actually holding us back
Even during De Gea's peak years when on the surface he was saving/winning us points many of us wondered if the flaws in his game was actually holding us back
Don’t know why they left the goal out. That was almost a terrific save. That’s the one thing he hasn’t yet done for us. Pulled off a world class save. The rest of his game looks nice and solid. Especially like his distribution and speed off his line.
The fact he comes off his line is the main reason he should be first choice
I love de Gea but I feel more at ease with Henderson in goal. He may not be able to pull of some of the miracle DDG saves but his calmness, the claiming of crosses and coming off his line more than make up for it.
After years of conditioning I expected Kane to be through on goal at one point with the keeper still on the line but Henderson was off his line perfectly timed to claim it.
After years of conditioning I expected Kane to be through on goal at one point with the keeper still on the line but Henderson was off his line perfectly timed to claim it.
The moments at 20 and 45 seconds I just know de Gea would've been on his line still, or only just beginning to think about coming.
Imo it’s clear the defence feels the same way. I think they feel more relaxed and assured knowing he’s behind them.
it’s more up to the English contingent of the Caf, but from the neutral standpoint... Pickford is just shit. Pope is having a good season, as is Henderson - must be between those two
Pickford has been one of England's best performers in recent years though. His distribution is the best of English goalkeepers as sully mentioned. I get the feeling that Southgate won't be a big fan of Henderson's ultra confident/cocky character either. I thought it was telling that Dean didn't get a single minute in the last break despite Pope's glaring weakness with the ball at his feet.
Taking a shot from the edge of the box or going 1v1, i'd still put my money on De Gea, but everywhere else Dean has surpassed him.
I'm not sure why people are fixated with a GK's ability to make world class saves.
It should be the very last resort to stop a goal. If you can cut out the source of danger before a dangerous situation develops, you never need to make a world class save and still keep clean sheets.
I mean, that's how sweeper keepers work right?
It should be the very last resort to stop a goal. If you can cut out the source of danger before a dangerous situation develops, you never need to make a world class save and still keep clean sheets.
I mean, that's how sweeper keepers work right?
It's so nice to have a dominant keeper back in goal. The best compliment I can give him is that it no longer looks like we need a new CB.
As far as England opponents go, Croatia being one of them, Pitckford being number one sounds good.
I consider him a shit keeper, no 2 ways about it.He's just an all round better keeper than De Gea. Dave makes world class saves but I feel like he causes the situations where he has to make those saves by being a reactionary keeper instead of being proactive about risk.
You'll be waiting a long time because Dean isn't that guy, there are not many that could make some of Dave's saves over the years.
What we have is a keeper who is good at different things but likely not amazing at everything a bit like Ederson in that regard
He's nowhere near De Gea's experience level, but if I remember rightly, De Gea made a lot of errors when he first joined, especially when coming for crosses, and not having the physical strength to compete with big players, he did improve a lot though.
Henderson will only improve by playing, so I would stick with him to the season's end.
With De Gea now becoming a dad, I wouldn't be surprised if he was considering moving back to Spain, but I'm not sure which club he would move to. The top clubs all seem to be strong in the gk department.
He's a Van Der Sar type organiser/motivator as well, which maybe his greatest strength. Sky played a video of him yesterday where you can hear him saying "Well done, you gave him nothing. That's all on you for giving me a chance well done lad" to Lindelof after a save. Van Der Sar said it best years ago. Its not actually a goalkeepers job to makes saves. It things go well, he wont have to make a save.
You got to think Sheffield United's defenders were helped massively from having him behind them, considering they went from a good side defensively, to the worst side in the country almost over night.
You got to think Sheffield United's defenders were helped massively from having him behind them, considering they went from a good side defensively, to the worst side in the country almost over night.
With second place all but confirmed i'd rather Dean was our cup GK for the remainder of the season. Much more solid than DDG.
Really impressed with Henderson. He has the personality of a Utd keeper and that is probably 60% of the battle.
Loved near the end of the game when you could hear him screaming at the defence to push up the pitch. He's a very commanding keeper. No doubt which keeper I'd rather have behind me if I was one of our back 4.
Loved near the end of the game when you could hear him screaming at the defence to push up the pitch. He's a very commanding keeper. No doubt which keeper I'd rather have behind me if I was one of our back 4.
Even the goal he concede, you can tell he did his best to stretch and cover the near post. Its totally different from DDG where you know he can do better. funny how people still keep saying DDG makes world class save...He is declining for like 2 years already. Henderson cover such a big area which helps our slow defender more.
I'm actually quite sure that for example Maguire already has spoken to Ole and made clear who of the two goalkeepers he prefers to play with.
His best game for United but am not in a rush to be wrong. I still want to see better technique at times and him holding onto shots and certainly parrying more out of danger
VDS didn't really make too many world class saves. Not that I can remember anyway.
His all round game was great though and exactly what we needed.
I'm not saying Henderson will ever be as good as VDS, but it might be a case that Henderson never pulls off the wonder saves De Gea used to but all round Henderson is much better suited for us. I already feel more confident with him in net now than the 2021 De Gea.
His all round game was great though and exactly what we needed.
I'm not saying Henderson will ever be as good as VDS, but it might be a case that Henderson never pulls off the wonder saves De Gea used to but all round Henderson is much better suited for us. I already feel more confident with him in net now than the 2021 De Gea.
Yep - there were two balls across in particular where Maguire was done and the striker (I think it was Kane both times) would have been in but Henderson. There was also one where Son would have go the ball ahead of Lindelof a bit wider where he was out like a flash.
Heard him making calls constantly throughout the game, it's no coincidence the defence looks so much better with him behind them
For anyone who didn’t watch — Deano claims he’s the fastest at the club, which sounds like guff that most players say — but more interestingly says that at Sheffield United, broke the club’s record for fastest player across 40 metres which they test every season.
Can some posters please stop with the exaggeration about De Gea making constant world class saves? When even was the last time that happened?
I also want to reiterate my point about Henderson having much better stats in the last 3 season when it comes to shot-stopping. For those saying we concede more chances with De Gea and he has a better shot-stopping %, that's completely false. Not only Henderson actively tries to deny the opposition's chances, but he also saves shots on target at a higher rate.
Just because you keep on repeating the same lie over and over, and over again, doesn't mean it's the truth. I've been much more confident with Dean in goal almost from his 2nd or 3rd game in the starting 11. It's glaringly obvious how much he improves our defensive structure, I'd even go further and say that he has made our team go up a level.
I also want to reiterate my point about Henderson having much better stats in the last 3 season when it comes to shot-stopping. For those saying we concede more chances with De Gea and he has a better shot-stopping %, that's completely false. Not only Henderson actively tries to deny the opposition's chances, but he also saves shots on target at a higher rate.
Just because you keep on repeating the same lie over and over, and over again, doesn't mean it's the truth. I've been much more confident with Dean in goal almost from his 2nd or 3rd game in the starting 11. It's glaringly obvious how much he improves our defensive structure, I'd even go further and say that he has made our team go up a level.
This.
It's his time. Ole has managed the passing of the gloves from de Gea well I think.
Fans are hyping him up now, but the next mistake he makes, they will be the first ones asking him to be sold and calling him "overrated".
De Gea was a god in goal for us for years. From 2013 to 2018, he was top 3 in the world, and probably our only world class player in the squad for a while. People were actuall saying here "He deserves to go to a club where he can win trophies, wont blame him if he does". Ofcourse football is a game where recency bias is a huge thing. So all that is forgotten.
Henderson rn is not even close to peak De Gea. But Henderson is the better keeper on current form. He seems like a solid 8/10 keeper. Hope he keeps that up.
De Gea was a god in goal for us for years. From 2013 to 2018, he was top 3 in the world, and probably our only world class player in the squad for a while. People were actuall saying here "He deserves to go to a club where he can win trophies, wont blame him if he does". Ofcourse football is a game where recency bias is a huge thing. So all that is forgotten.
Henderson rn is not even close to peak De Gea. But Henderson is the better keeper on current form. He seems like a solid 8/10 keeper. Hope he keeps that up.
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