Deadline Day! | Confirmed Signings in OP

I'd love it if Spurs got Moutinho. Not sure why.

Maybe the last whiff of Jim White is still dissipating through my pores.
 
It's almost as exciting as when it was reported earlier that a helicopter was landing at Spurs Lodge :lol:
 
So basically Levy gets a reward for spending the entire window dicking around to save a tenner here and there until the last day when he goes mental? Seems fair.
 
It makes perfect sense if they have the documents in confirming a deal is imminent but for the logistics of paper work.

It'd be daft if it was extended for negotiations but if they couldn't finalise the deal because paperwork and signatures was still being faxed between clubs and governing bodies then it's just daft to refuse it.
 
Think I've seen it before where the right documents were sent through before the window shut so a couple are able to go through a bit later.
 
Didn't the whole Gallas/Ashley Cole transfer go through well after the window shut as well?
 
It makes perfect sense if they have the documents in confirming a deal is imminent but for the logistics of paper work.

It'd be daft if it was extended for negotiations but if they couldn't finalise the deal because paperwork and signatures was still being faxed between clubs and governing bodies then it's just daft to refuse it.

Why? If the deadline is 11pm and you have to have everything completed by 11pm, if you don't have everything completed by 11pm then why should you get til 1am? They've had all day, all summer in fact. They've had plenty of time to complete it. If they'd completed negotiatons sooner then they wouldn't be scrambling around sending faxes late would they?
 
It makes perfect sense if they have the documents in confirming a deal is imminent but for the logistics of paper work.

It'd be daft if it was extended for negotiations but if they couldn't finalise the deal because paperwork and signatures was still being faxed between clubs and governing bodies then it's just daft to refuse it.

Yeah, I think there's something called "an intention to buy/sell" (which means all the negotiations are over) which can apply if both parties formally lodge that with the FA ... don't know if that's what happened in this case tho'.
 
Seems odd to set an extra deadline though. If everything was sorted and they were giving allowances you'd think they'd just allow the deal to go ahead. Why 1am, if everything is agreed?

Why set a deadline at all?
 
Steven Nzonzi for £3million is great business for Stoke.
 
Why? If the deadline is 11pm and you have to have everything completed by 11pm, if you don't have everything completed by 11pm then why should you get til 1am? They've had all day, all summer in fact. They've had plenty of time to complete it. If they'd completed negotiatons sooner then they wouldn't be scrambling around sending faxes late would they?

I always thought the only thing that needs to take place before the 11pm deadline is the agreement between the two clubs for the transfer of the players registration, everything else can be sorted after i think
 
I always thought the only thing that needs to take place before the 11pm deadline is the agreement between the two clubs for the transfer of the players registration, everything else can be sorted after i think

How does that make sense? You could be negotiating with someone after 11pm, who would know other than those negotiating?
 
I always thought the only thing that needs to take place before the 11pm deadline is the agreement between the two clubs for the transfer of the players registration, everything else can be sorted after i think

Exactly. If everything has been agreed and the FA have been notified that the transfer will happen, why should everyone get their knickers in a twist over the fact a number of lawyers, chairman, agents, financial backers, banks and trustees of the clubs involved are still signing and passing on documents. Makes no odds to me, if they have agreed a deal I see no problem in the formalities being done after the window.

It'd be the FA biting their nose off to spite their face if they made these transfer windows too strict. Why lose out on a number of star names coming to their league because it's a logistical nightmare to get a number of signatures sorted on the last day. If the transfer is agreed it should be allowed time to go through.
 
Exactly. If everything has been agreed and the FA have been notified that the transfer will happen, why should everyone get their knickers in a twist over the fact a number of lawyers, chairman, agents, financial backers, banks and trustees of the clubs involved are still signing and passing on documents. Makes no odds to me, if they have agreed a deal I see no problem in the formalities being done after the window.

It'd be the FA biting their nose off to spite their face if they made these transfer windows too strict. Why lose out on a number of star names coming to their league because it's a logistical nightmare to get a number of signatures sorted on the last day. If the transfer is agreed it should be allowed time to go through.

So, what you're saying is that all deals should be completed by 11pm, apart from those which aren't completed before 11pm, which can be completed anytime thereafter.

Guess that works.
 
How does that make sense? You could be negotiating with someone after 11pm, who would know other than those negotiating?

If you make a bid for a player at 10.45 that the other club accepts, does he have to have a medical, agree personal terms and sign all the contracts and paperwork inside 15 minutes?
 
If you make a bid for a player at 10.45 that the other club accepts, does he have to have a medical, agree personal terms and sign all the contracts and paperwork inside 15 minutes?

If there is an 11pm transfer deadline then I'd say yes, he should. Or you should have the deal sorted earlier.

Isn't that the whole idea of a deadline? Perhaps you should look the word up.
 
So, what you're saying is that all deals should be completed by 11pm, apart from those which aren't completed before 11pm, which can be completed anytime thereafter.

Guess that works.

What I'm saying is that 11pm is the deadline, because you have to have a deadline somewhere. Any club that is trying to sign a player but can't get all the paperwork in on time should have the right to appeal for an extension. It's a universal rule, plenty of clubs have done it in the past just not in such high profile transfers.

Why have a deadline? Because it was decided that you have to in order to give clubs the chance of a settled squad through a season. The hour/day extra extensions to allow clubs to get things sorted doesn't have any impact on the intended function of the rule so there is no reason to be pedantic about it.
 
If you can't get the paperwork in on time then tough shit, you've missed the deadline. Should have had it done earlier. Sign him in January.

It's not being pedantic, it's sticking to a deadline that was predetermined, and that everyone knows about.
 
If you can't get the paperwork in on time then tough shit, you've missed the deadline. Should have had it done earlier. Sign him in January.

It's not being pedantic, it's sticking to a deadline that was predetermined, and that everyone knows about.

A deadline is a deadline. An extension is an extension. Every club is allowed them if they have followed the rules. Same rules for everyone.

As I said, transfer windows were imposed to allow clubs to have settled squads for both halfs of the season, granting a club a bit of time to sort the paper work out has zero effect on the function of the transfer window. It's not like they are allowing Spurs a transfer in November, they are just giving them the chance to complete a transfer they had already notified the FA was being finalised.


I think it's a good use of common sense, fair enough if you disagree but you have to admit that if every club is allowed to do this its a fair rule and there is no problem.
 
Well but if the deal is off than it makes no sense to have been given the extension, at least according to what I read in that article...
 
Yeah, of course if it's a rule for everyone it's fair, and I know it is. I'm just saying if the deadline is 11pm then either complete deals by then or not at all. I don't see why deals can't be agreed before the deadline. It's not like clubs/players/agents aren't aware of the deadline.