Yes except we didnt conclude business did we? we still need a midfielder, we didnt need a 29 year old 24m striker, in fact we didnt need another striker at all.
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Yes except we didnt conclude business did we? we still need a midfielder, we didnt need a 29 year old 24m striker, in fact we didnt need another striker at all.
Well put.
Fergie seems to be the only one who doesn't see it that way.
And Twigg, but ... you know.
In your eyes maybe.
Anderson / cleverley / scholes / carrick / giggs / possibly fletch is enough in his eyes perhaps?
in your opinion
we concluded the business he wanted to do. Its clear as day that Ferguson is happy enough with his central midfield options for now, so not sure why people keep beating this drum.
16m for Javi Garcia is really cheap. There won't be any CM's left by the time we decide that we need one!
Maybe because even Fergie said at the start of the summer that we need to improve our central midfield? I don't think Kagawa playing behind the striker changes anything with our midfield.
Fergie is hardly immune from mistakes, and not many share his sentiments on midfielders, a position that he has a pretty terrible track record with and has long had troubles getting right.
The logic that "Fergie knows best" simply doesn't hold up when it comes to our midfield, it was diabolical at times last season and we had to bring a 37 year old back from retirement to fix it, and in general we haven't had a solid midfield combination since 06/07.
maybe whoever he has in mind is not available?
reading these threads, its like people are on crack, wanting to get their hit by SAF signing a midfielder, any midfielder will do
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Do spurs have some sort of training for car-window transfer interviews?
Do spurs have some sort of training for car-window transfer interviews?
Bullshit, lots of good midfielders have moved this Summer, a lot of whom would make us better.
Is Pablo Hernández any good? An upgrade on Sinclair? I remember him scoring against us a couple of years ago but can't say I've seen much of him since.
Wonder how QPR will do now with all the new players signed. Is Carvalho done too?
Fernandes, the owner, is his ambition to make them in to a top 4 club or how much money could he put in to the club?
Fernandes, the owner, is his ambition to make them in to a top 4 club or how much money could he put in to the club?
A lot of very good midfielders have moved or are moving and at very decent prices so it's not like we can blame a lack of value this time.
in 2 years, jack wilshere, 35 million. Fergus patiently waiting.
What a twat ,shouting out players names so the trained Spurs sheep can shout hoorah.
I was praying just one would shout 'caaannntt!'
Not sure why you think he has a poor track record when it comes to midfield.
Giggs-Scholes-Keane-Beckham
ok, you may argue that 3 of those were homegrown, but that didnt happen automatically, it was Fergusons development of them (even going to Giggs 14th birthday party to get him to sign!)
It was Ferguson that bought Ince & Keane. Webb would have been good were it not for injury crocking him
He has a much better record with midfield than you give him credit for
and as for your point about Scholes, if one of the greatest players in the history of the PL tells you he's made a mistake and retired too soon, youre hardly going to tell him to sod off are you? He ended up being one of the best CM in the league last year so not sure how that equates to fixing something.
My only criticism of SAF is that he places too much faith in Anderson (and possibly Cleverly) due to injuries. Were they out of the equation I feel that he would sign someone but he clearly rates them highly and feels that his options as they are will stand him in good stead going into the season
All gone a bit quiet...
For those watchign SSN - did the S'hmpton manager just say their new signing won't be able to play against us on Sunday?
yeah, I think he said he said they missed the 12pm deadline for that.
cricket? wtf is this, something good could be happening in Stoke right now!
We had terrible luck with Anderson and Cleverley. Fergie does not know best indeed, but he aint that bad.
Yeah. there is no chance in hell of a cm coming into the club as long as we have those 6(and Jones).
I expect next summer will be the time when it finally happens though. Giggs or Scholes if not both will likely retire. I suspect the Anderson experiment will finally reach a happy ending with him leaving the club. And so it will begin.............
Carrick is the only good midfielder he has signed in ten years, I'd say that's a pretty poor record, personally. I discount home grown players entirely because they're not the sort of players we're discussing, we're discussing players you purchase (it's transfer deadline day in the transfer forum).
Regarding Scholes, my point was that if we'd sorted our midfield out we'd have never brought him back in the first place, but our midfield was in such a dire situation at the time that we did. I doubt if we had a fully functioning midfield at the time (as in, not using Rooney and Jones there) that it would've ever been suggested.
No he doesn't.
Have to be a bit blind not to see how good some of those players are in contrast to what we have, though.
Can't wait to see Carrick and Cleverley get a run together in midfield, especially with Kagawa in front to dictate the play.
So Ramirez signs for Southampton and Pablo Hernandez for Swansea.
It's much more to do with the likes of Jimmy Ryan, Eric Harrison and co. You don't think Fergie was scouring the Sunday leagues and just happened upon them do you? Of course once they became of age, the rest of their development would've been down to him and his coaching staff. But his record of buying midfielders doesn't look all that impressive. Very few (Ince, Keane, Carrick) have gone on to be pivotal players for us, and even Carrick has been a divisive one amongst United fans. Then you look at the likes of Anderson, Veron, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba etc.
You cant discount homegrown players. You said he has a terrible track record for midfielders. He developed that midfield meaning he didnt have to spend on it for years. How can you not get that?
As for Scholes, it was the player himself who asked to come back, not Fergie begging him to come back.
SAF obviously believes in Anderson,Powell,Scholes,Giggs,Cleverly and most of all Carrick to see us through , whether it's blind faith we will just have to see.
On a side note - where is our lil Chilean striker? Has he been confirmed? Does he need to be before the window closes?
Ferguson put them in the team and showed faith in them. Ferguson watched the reserve matches and had a bigger say in those lads than you give him credit for.
You are also missing the point. Cina said he has a terrible record of midfielders. By developing them he didnt have to spend
QPR fans must be close to exploding. There's only so much muppet one can handle.
Yep. Let's just hope we don't regret it when we end up losing a lot of midfield battles this year.
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really in 10 years? Ronald, park, hargreaves, nani, valencia...
unless your talking about just central midfield and then its mainly hargreaves who had poor luck with injury
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