De Rossi Up For Sale

Not really similar at all considering De Rossi is one of the best midfielders in the world and Ambrosini isn't even close to anything like that.

I'd be shocked if he left and don't believe for one moment he wants to. Chelsea would be the obvious destination. A loyal player that's stuck by Roma through thick and thin. We need people like him in the game. Age doesn't matter either, still one of the best around and able to fit in numerous different systems. Still easily the best defensive midfielder in the world.

I highly disagree with that post. He's never been the best defensive midfielder in the world. Certainly isn't now. Wasn't even a nailed on starter last season.
 
I highly disagree with that post. He's never been the best defensive midfielder in the world. Certainly isn't now. Wasn't even a nailed on starter last season.


That was more personal/disciplinary wise than actual ability he is still Roma's best most important midfielder. The Ambrosini comparison is a bad one imo. He is more of a box to box central midfielder he does not play as deep as Busquets, Makalele, Carrick etc. He contributes a lot defensively but he goes forward also.
 
That was more personal/disciplinary wise than actual ability he is still Roma's best most important midfielder. The Ambrosini comparison is a bad one imo. He is more of a box to box central midfielder he does not play as deep as Busquets, Makalele, Carrick etc. He contributes a lot defensively but he goes forward also.

It's not a bad comparison. Ambrosini is a highly capable player. Recently captained AC Milan. I'm assuming he was let go for the same reason that De Rossi is available for a fee. To free up space on wage bill. Both are center midfielders and both take active part in play whilst their main focus being a link between midfield and defense. You talk like Busquets, Carrick and De Rossi don't participate in attack. Those three mentioned are also all different players despite playing the same position, much like Ambrosini and De Rossi. How about that.
 
It's not a bad comparison. Ambrosini is a highly capable player. Recently captained AC Milan. I'm assuming he was let go for the same reason that De Rossi is available for a fee. To free up space on wage bill. Both are center midfielders and both take active part in play whilst their main focus being a link between midfield and defense. You talk like Busquets, Carrick and De Rossi don't participate in attack. Those three mentioned are also all different players despite playing the same position, much like Ambrosini and De Rossi. How about that.

It is for me, if Ambrosini was as good as De Rossi he would not have been let go by AC also Ambrosini is quite old so I think that is also a factor Milan have gotten rid of all their deadwood the last two seasons they want to have a young team that can grow. For me comparing them is simply odd not because of role but because De Rossi is comfortably the better player Ac would keep Carrick and Busquets also. Ambrosini was let go because he was old and not that good he was no pauper but De Rossi is one of the better midfielders in the world Ambrosini is not in that class. The role of Carrick and Busquets in attack is minimal in general and in comparison to De Rossi at Roma.
 
De Rossi is better than Ambrosini ever was though, and he is only 29 whereas Ambrosini is 36.

Milan just didn't want Ambrosini but De Rossi is still Roma's best midfielder and if he gets back to his form from a few years ago he's without doubt one of the best midfielders in the world. Last season was problematic with their new manager but he got sacked after a few months and De Rossi was back in the team, then looked good in the Confederations.
 
De Rossi is better than Ambrosini ever was though, and he is only 29 whereas Ambrosini is 36.

Milan just didn't want Ambrosini but De Rossi is still Roma's best midfielder and if he gets back to his form from a few years ago he's without doubt one of the best midfielders in the world. Last season was problematic with their new manager but he got sacked after a few months and De Rossi was back in the team, then looked good in the Confederations.

Basically this snow.
 
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It is for me, if Ambrosini was as good as De Rossi he would not have been let go by AC also Ambrosini is quite old so I think that is also a factor Milan have gotten rid of all their deadwood the last two seasons they want to have a young team that can grow. For me comparing them is simply odd not because of role but because De Rossi is comfortably the better player Ac would keep Carrick and Busquets also. Ambrosini was let go because he was old and not that good he was no pauper but De Rossi is one of the better midfielders in the world Ambrosini is not in that class. The role of Carrick and Busquets in attack is minimal in general and in comparison to De Rossi at Roma.
You're completely missing the point. I didn't compare them as equals. I said the reason for De Rossi being available for a fee is a similar reason to why Ambrosini was let go. Age and cost. It makes sense on both accounts to sell them. Roma are not in a good financial position and De Rossi is costing them more than he is worth. They finished 6th. Didn't get into Europe. The season before that they finished 7th and before that 6th. All with him in his prime as supposedly one of the worlds best in your opinion.
Last season he was benched. You say disciplinary problems. Is that a positive thing from the home grown vice captain? Certainly not something that rallies the troops.

It only makes sense to try and cash in. If not now they'll lose him on free or keep him on his monster salary that hasn't been crucial to their non-success in recent years.
 
De Rossi is better than Ambrosini ever was though, and he is only 29 whereas Ambrosini is 36.

Milan just didn't want Ambrosini but De Rossi is still Roma's best midfielder and if he gets back to his form from a few years ago he's without doubt one of the best midfielders in the world. Last season was problematic with their new manager but he got sacked after a few months and De Rossi was back in the team, then looked good in the Confederations.

Did I say anything differently?
 
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You're completely missing the point. I didn't compare them as equals. I said the reason for De Rossi being available for a fee is a similar reason to why Ambrosini was let go. Age and cost. It makes sense on both accounts to sell them. Roma are not in a good financial position and De Rossi is costing them more than he is worth. They finished 6th. Didn't get into Europe. The season before that they finished 7th and before that 6th. All with him in his prime as supposedly one of the worlds best in your opinion.
Last season he was benched. You say disciplinary problems. Is that a positive thing from the home grown vice captain? Certainly not something that rallies the troops.

It only makes sense to try and cash in. If not now they'll lose him on free or keep him on his monster salary that hasn't been crucial to their non-success in recent years.

Oh k my first post I said he was younger and a better player you seemed to brush that aside hence why I kept mentioning it, if your talking financially I see your point. I think you confused a few people in that sense.
 
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You're saying the Ambrosini comparison is a good one, when it is a shite one.

Did you read my original post in this thread? I compared the reasons for him being let go by Milan compared to Roma being willing to sell De Rossi. I didn't compare their abilities as players.
 
Oh k my first post I said he was younger and a better player you seemed to brush that aside hence why I kept mentioning it, if your talking financially I see your point. I think you confused a few people in that sense.

He is a younger and a better player and is a better player than Ambrosini ever was. Ambrosini was however an important player for AC Milan. Not an irreplaceable one but an important one non the less. Much like De Rossi. Ambrosini is also as close as a home grown player as you can get. Spent his entire professional career under contract with Milan, bar the first season. A lesser version of De Rossi if you will.

I wouldn't recommend Ambrosini for a purchase however. He's simply too old.
 
Did you read my original post in this thread? I compared the reasons for him being let go by Milan compared to Roma being willing to sell De Rossi. I didn't compare their abilities as players.

Yeah but I think the reasons are completely different.

Ambrosini might end up retiring for all we know, he wasn't young or good enough for Milan anymore so they let him go. With De Rossi all that's effectively been said is that a huge fee will get him, it isn't the case that Roma want rid of him in the same way that Milan want rid of Ambrosini. He isn't being forced out the club and if the transfer fee isn't huge he won't leave.
 
Yeah but I think the reasons are completely different.

Ambrosini might end up retiring for all we know, he wasn't young or good enough for Milan anymore so they let him go. With De Rossi all that's effectively been said is that a huge fee will get him, it isn't the case that Roma want rid of him in the same way that Milan want rid of Ambrosini. He isn't being forced out the club and if the transfer fee isn't huge he won't leave.

I also didn't say it was the same. I said it was similar.

Amrosini is still good enough. MoM performance against Barcelona in the CL suggests you're good enough. He's probably not consistently good enough to merit a starting lineup (well he probably is with the current Milan side but probably not with the direction they seem to be going) but that doesn't mean he can't do a job. It's simply not worth it long term if it's costing them that much. The Italian clubs (bar Juventus) aren't exactly swimming in money.
 
I also didn't say it was the same. I said it was similar.

Amrosini is still good enough. MoM performance against Barcelona in the CL suggests you're good enough. He's probably not consistently good enough to merit a starting lineup (well he probably is with the current Milan side but probably not with the direction they seem to be going) but that doesn't mean he can't do a job. It's simply not worth it long term if it's costing them that much. The Italian clubs (bar Juventus) aren't exactly swimming in money.

Agreed.

I'm trying to think of a good comparable situation at another club but it's pretty hard. The closest I can think to Ambrosini (aging club legend who wasn't retiring) is that Chelsea were very close to deciding that Lampard was past his best and that they didn't want him anymore, so weren't offering him a new contract.

Both those cases wouldn't be the same as a team saying that one of their star players if available for a huge fee IMO.
 
i was about to post something on the lines of "Vasco da Gama reaches India", but I realized this is fresh speculation!.
As others have pointed out this seems to be the story every year.

I wouldn't mind him now that we no longer can depend on Fletcher. Yep I chronically under-rate him on the basis of his performances in the Champions League (especially against us).
 
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I think he's underrated, possesses fantastic character.. a true battler but with an astute tactical mind for the game - very composed and has the presence of a big player, technically sound.. he's very comfortable in tight spaces and can pass the ball with either foot, if he hadn't wasted his years in Rome, his reputation would be alot higher. His record for Italy speaks for itself. I for one rate him higher than Carrick and reckon had De Rossi moved to a top side, he'd be regarded alot more highly.
 
I think he's underrated, possesses fantastic character.. a true battler but with an astute tactical mind for the game - very composed and has the presence of a big player, technically sound.. he's very comfortable in tight spaces and can pass the ball with either foot, if he hadn't wasted his years in Rome, his reputation would be alot higher. His record for Italy speaks for itself. I for one rate him higher than Carrick and reckon had De Rossi moved to a top side, he'd be regarded alot more highly.

no you over-rate because he looks the part. however, he isn't better than Carrick, infact Fletcher at his peak would beat him in midfield battles.
 
Rumours I'm hearing might lead me to be getting one of these...

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So now that Strootman has signed for Roma these De Rossi rumours might have some credibility. I would hate him to go to Chelsea, but it would make sense as their central midfield is pretty weak bar Ramires.

Great player though, I would be really interested to see how he handles the Premiership.
 
He'd actually be a great signing. He could still give us 2-3 years at a high level, has leadership skills and is basically a very good footballer too.
 
I love how it's the Italian media outlets reporting that both the club and the player himself "turned us down," as if it's some kind of moral victory for Italian football.
 
I would love him here, he is on huge wages though. Think he is the highest paid in the whole of Serie A
 
I am starting to think that Edward 'Radio-Face' Woodward is somewhat used to being rejected; persistence is his strength! My only fear is it could also explain why he is single.
 
Panic button well and truly pressed it seems.

Am fervently refreshing my mail just in case I get an offer too.
 
thank god for that we dodged a bullet there.
 
He is not worth more than 12 million, Roma want to sell him, on loan as well, due the high wage and bad performances with the club.