De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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I've come up with a solution that I can live with.

Offer to sell him back to Atletico for 20 Million and Jan Oblak (he looks to have some potential). This will put him back in Madrid where he can be closer to home and although he'll make less it doesn't seem to be a money issue because we've probably offered him more than Real Madrid have.

At this point, my attitude is "feck Real Madrid" and I don't want to sell to them. We're not going to get what he's worth anyway, so if we have to sell for less than his value, I'd rather it not be to Madrid. Unless they want to offer us Bale in return, we should do everything in our power to keep him away from them.
 
Flying_Hellfish said:
But do us the favour of signing the contract thereby getting us a decent fee, at the very least.
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Such a small time attitude.
F*ck doing us a favour. We're Manchester United. We don't need his charity.

This is getting tiring now.
Put the contract on the table. Tell him he has until the start of the transfer window to sign it.

If he signs, awesome. Good man.
If he doesn't, awesome. Find a replacement, pay what it takes.
Leave him out of the summer tour, give him squad number 47 and his schedule for the reserves next season.

We gain nothing by begging and bending.
We gain nothing by letting him go to strengthen a rival for (in our terms) small money this year.
We gain nothing by leaving him in the first team, unhappy, for the remainder of his contract.
 
Damn. It's really happening. I'm gutted.
 
diarm said:
Such a small time attitude.
F*ck doing us a favour. We're Manchester United. We don't need his charity.

This is getting tiring now.
Put the contract on the table. Tell him he has until the start of the transfer window to sign it.

If he signs, awesome. Good man.
If he doesn't, awesome. Find a replacement, pay what it takes.
Leave him out of the summer tour, give him squad number 47 and his schedule for the reserves next season.

We gain nothing by begging and bending.
We gain nothing by letting him go to strengthen a rival for (in our terms) small money this year.
We gain nothing by leaving him in the first team, unhappy, for the remainder of his contract.
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Stop posting.

In daft layouts and in one line paragraphs.

It gets on my tits.

I agree with your point though to an extent.
 
If he wants a low release clause then it means he wants to leave. No two ways about it. What's the point in getting him to re-sign with those terms? De Gea with a £21m release clause would have dozens and dozens of clubs activating it.

If he wants to leave then he has to leave. No point in keeping him. Get Lloris or Cech. Or go with Valdes. We'll be ok. Gutting to lose him though when it is this club who has moulded him into a world class talent.
 
Should De Gea inform us of his intention to leave, we can use the last year of his contract as access to a plethora of madrids players in return. money isn't the issue for us, its top quality players able to move club. the likes of Bale, modric, carvahal, maybe even benzema or isco could be used as part of a deal dependant on just how much they want spains flagship goalkeeper for the next decade, and the best keeper in the world.
 
diarm said:
We gain nothing by leaving him in the first team, unhappy, for the remainder of his contract.
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That why there would be a gentleman's agreement. The contract would be a technicality.

We don't need the money, but rather that than be mugged off. Real could offer £20m (or less) and we'd be over a barrel. If he signed we could set a price of £40m and negotiate from there.

In the meantime it'd buy us a few moments to negotiate our own targets.
 
Will understand if he goes, it's just the timing which is a shame. We finally look to be moving towards something special, was really hoping we wouldn't have to sort out the GK situation once again. I'm hoping he's seen the potential in our side and is just waiting for confirmation of our CL status, but i think i'm just burying my head in the sand and clutching at straws. I expect i'll make my way through many more idioms before this is sorted.
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
Should De Gea inform us of his intention to leave, we can use the last year of his contract as access to a plethora of madrids players in return. money isn't the issue for us, its top quality players able to move club. the likes of Bale, modric, carvahal, maybe even benzema or isco could be used as part of a deal dependant on just how much they want spains flagship goalkeeper for the next decade, and the best keeper in the world.
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Why would they do that for a player with one year left on deal? They'd just make an agreement directly with de Gea that if he waits his contract out, he'll get a bigger signing on bonus. Real won't be bothered about waiting an extra year if need be.
 
Duffy said:
Stop posting.

In daft layouts and in one line paragraphs.

It gets on my tits.

I agree with your point though to an extent.
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:lol: Is this because I called you out on your misspelling of hear?
Fair play!
 
Flying_Hellfish said:
That why there would be a gentleman's agreement. The contract would be a technicality.

We don't need the money, but rather that than be mugged off. Real could offer £20m (or less) and we'd be over a barrel. If he signed we could set a price of £40m and negotiate from there.

In the meantime it'd buy us a few moments to negotiate our own targets.
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If Real Madrid want him for free after a year without games, they can have him.
 
I think there are only two scenarios. Either he's waiting to see if we qualify for CL or he's already made his mind up wanting to be close to his gf.
 
Sad Chris said:
I disagree:

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I like a bit of meat on them.
 
Damien said:
Why would they do that for a player with one year left on deal? They'd just make an agreement directly with de Gea that if he waits his contract out, he'll get a bigger signing on bonus. Real won't be bothered about waiting an extra year if need be.
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I don't think they want to wait, when somebody wants a shiny new toy, and cost isn't a factor for them, they can quite easily pay the premium cost for the easiest access to that toy. say for example a new game is being released online on steam/origin at midnight for 50 quid and the choice is to buy it then and spend 30 mins downloading it then playing instantly, or you can order a boxed retail copy for 25-30 quid from amazon and wait a couple of days for delivery. if we negotiate properly i dont think we will get completely mugged if he goes.
 
Woody needs to dress up as a fan outside the ground after a game asking for autographs, only when he signs it's actually a 15 year contract.
 
diarm said:
:lol: Is this because I called you out on your misspelling of hear?
Fair play!
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:lol: Nope, it just seems to be a bad habie that recent newbs promotees have, you're not the first I've challenged on it. Saw it a lot during the World Cup and it really got on my nerves. Nothing personal! ;)
 
bucky said:
AS reporting it means nothing. If cadena ser or cadena cope are reporting it then it's happening.
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Not that particular report, just the culmination of grumblings and us looking at alternatives.
 
I always kind of assumed that he would end up going back to Spain if he made it here. Always seems to be the way with young Spanish players. And, who can blame them really? Madrid, Barcelona or Manchester...hmm tough one.
 
bucky said:
AS reporting it means nothing. If cadena ser or cadena cope are reporting it then it's happening.
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Cadena ser and As are the same group(as Cope and Marca are related), some of the periodists with José Ramón de la Morena write later in the newspaper, besides Relaño, As director uses to talk in Ser sometimes.
 
Well if he is off i will lost all respect to him and all faith in buying young promising players. We gave him opportunity when he looked like a headless chicken in goal, helped him to became one of the top goalkeppers and after 4 years he is off. Where is then the point in buying young promising players then.
We can match all what can other clubs pay to him. And if he love Madrid so much why he even left Atletico then.
 
Jerch said:
Well if he is off i will lost all respect to him and all faith in buying young promising players. We gave him opportunity when he looked like a headless chicken in goal, helped him to became one of the top goalkeppers and after 4 years he is off. Where is then the point in buying young promising players then.
We can match all what can other clubs pay to him. And if he love Madrid so much why he even left Atletico then.
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It is the nature of football, and it happens to us far less often than it does to clubs who are a step below us.

Do you also have no respect for the young players who we buy due to the fact they are choosing to leave the clubs that gave them an opportunity? Or do we have some special right to keep hold of such players?
 
Of course De Gea (as a Spaniard) will choose to leave if he is given the chance to sign for Barca or Madrid and become their Number #1 keeper. How fecking stupid and deluded do you have to be to think he would prefer to stay here?
 
The title got me worried, until I realised its the usual bollocks, why not quote what the express has to say in the title.
 
I'd hate Dave to leave, but we've had great years together. If we haven't been able to secure his services for the future it's mostly our bad. I doubt we'll be able to find a replacement of the same quality, but that's just because Dave is a real diamond. Imo he's developing better than I've ever seen a keeper develop.

On the other hand, our team and our system are developing quite well, too. I think if we strengthen our defence this summer, we could even cope with a top ten keeper (and NO, Joe Hart is not on this list).
We obviously have the training staff that will improve any keeper with the talent to become a beater. And having experienced the importance of great keepers, I'm certain we'll find a more than decent solution.

So in the worst case we lose one of the best keepers in the world, who I'd love to keep for his whole career. But on the other hand we have the money, the staff and a bright future to ensure that we'll get over it sooner rather than later. With or without Dave.
 
Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn't sign a new contract, what would the caf think of us sticking him in the reserves next season and letting him run his contract down? I am just a little sick and tired of Real coming and cherry picking our players. Honestly, unless the offer from them is 30M pounds or more, or we can get a good player swap, then I would prefer to stick to our guns. If we want to be seen as the biggest club in the world, then we can't be their feeder club.

But maybe I am just being petty.
 
diarm said:
Such a small time attitude.
F*ck doing us a favour. We're Manchester United. We don't need his charity.

This is getting tiring now.
Put the contract on the table. Tell him he has until the start of the transfer window to sign it.

If he signs, awesome. Good man.
If he doesn't, awesome. Find a replacement, pay what it takes.
Leave him out of the summer tour, give him squad number 47 and his schedule for the reserves next season.

We gain nothing by begging and bending.
We gain nothing by letting him go to strengthen a rival for (in our terms) small money this year.
We gain nothing by leaving him in the first team, unhappy, for the remainder of his contract.
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Rightly or wrongly, I like the cut of your jib...I would absolutely love us to take this stance.
 
Jerch said:
Well if he is off i will lost all respect to him and all faith in buying young promising players. We gave him opportunity when he looked like a headless chicken in goal, helped him to became one of the top goalkeppers and after 4 years he is off. Where is then the point in buying young promising players then.
We can match all what can other clubs pay to him. And if he love Madrid so much why he even left Atletico then.
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He was the most highly rated very young keeper in the world back then, and there were already people who were saying that he'll be the best in the world. In fact, his manager back then (Emeri) called him the best keeper in the world.

So, De Gea wasn't a guy that we found in the streets and made a star. He was a very talented and highly rated keeper that we signed for massive money. What did you expect to do with him when he was having a difficult time? Sell him for half the money and lose a potentially great keeper?

I also don't understand how people in this case expect loyalty. De Gea was a massive fan of Atletico. And left them when he was only 20, having had only 2 senior seasons.
 
simonhch said:
Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn't sign a new contract, what would the caf think of us sticking him in the reserves next season and letting him run his contract down? I am just a little sick and tired of Real coming and cherry picking our players. Honestly, unless the offer from them is 30M pounds or more, or we can get a good player swap, then I would prefer to stick to our guns. If we want to be seen as the biggest club in the world, then we can't be their feeder club.

But maybe I am just being petty.
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If we're keeping him, play him. He could win us titles.
 
simonhch said:
Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn't sign a new contract, what would the caf think of us sticking him in the reserves next season and letting him run his contract down? I am just a little sick and tired of Real coming and cherry picking our players. Honestly, unless the offer from them is 30M pounds or more, or we can get a good player swap, then I would prefer to stick to our guns. If we want to be seen as the biggest club in the world, then we can't be their feeder club.

But maybe I am just being petty.
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There's no point. If De Gea wants to leave this summer but LvG decides to keep him next year anyway it's because he wants to play him.
 
rednev said:
It is the nature of football, and it happens to us far less often that it does to clubs who are a step below us.

Do you also have no respect for the young players who we buy due to the fact they are choosing to leave the clubs that gave them an opportunity?
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We can match all what can other clubs pay to him.
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Clubs who are step below us can't offer money we can, can't offer competiton for trophies, can't offer CL football and these clubs usually buy players to sell them couple of season later for a profit. They know it in advance they are a stepping stone to bigger clubs.
We bought him to be our long term solution for GK spot and gave him the opportunity because of that.

There is big difference between those clubs and us, we can ofer him all he want. But as SAF said once: "The grass is always greener on the other side."

But i can't stand people making excuses for him. There is no excuse, if he signs the contract than fair enough, if he doesn't i won't have the best opinion on him.
 
simonhch said:
Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn't sign a new contract, what would the caf think of us sticking him in the reserves next season and letting him run his contract down? I am just a little sick and tired of Real coming and cherry picking our players. Honestly, unless the offer from them is 30M pounds or more, or we can get a good player swap, then I would prefer to stick to our guns. If we want to be seen as the biggest club in the world, then we can't be their feeder club.

But maybe I am just being petty.
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We might feel good about it, and tell to ourselves that we're awesome. And lose 25m or so in the process (transfer and wages). And look a bit of cnuts. And make other players (especially those who are highly rated) to think twice before they sign with us.

So no, I think it is a terrible idea. If he doesn't extend his contract, either sell of keep him cause we think that it is better for us if he'll be our keeper for next season rather than getting 20m for him.
 
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