Maybe, especially in England, but he isn't worth it right now, as he isn't that good (I am not talking about potential).
With Sterling you would need to wait and hope that he will fulfill his potential.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Maybe, especially in England, but he isn't worth it right now, as he isn't that good (I am not talking about potential).
With Sterling you would need to wait and hope that he will fulfill his potential.
If he wants a release clause, it's obvious that eh wants to leave. Would be a shame.
a few things:
1. even if deGea will go back to his home country in one day, he won't want to go in cheap. especially for madrid. it's not just for financial reason but he also requires guarantee of 1st place of pecking order in the position. just like coutois back to chelsea.
2. a new big contract serves the interest for both deGea and united
3. if this is the player's agent to jeopardise the contract because of another contract issue involved another player, the agent does not act professionally since he doesn't act on behalf deGea well to maximize deGea's interest
3. an english paper would not know what a spanish giant club really wants to do. and we would not produce such a story neither. so such madrid wants him free story can only come out from the player's agent to push through their own agenda
4. if deGea really left the club in summer of 2016, we should stop doing any business with that particular agent due to his non-profession. i don't care how many latin footballing stars are under his control. but i really don't think this will happen. most likely it's still under a bargaining process.
5. if this really happened, we should launch a campaign to investigate the current footballer's transfer market. to me, the current market is nothing more than a slavery market and those agents are indeed involving in human trafficking. i don't see those footballers living in an environment different from a prostitute controlled by an international human trafficking group. the numerous tevez transfer saga best tells the story. you might argue those footballers are more rich though.
6. imo, if you want to put a 250m break clause in a five year contract, you can only do so if the pay also worths 50m a year for five. and the value of the break clause diminishes when the remaining time of the contract lapses. i doubt the validity of a contract with a break clause (or so called release clause) worth more than the remaining value of the contract if it is presented in front of a court. this is simply because it means the contract is not signed in equity to reflect the true value of both parties, which is the main form of a slavery contract. what it needs is just another bosman case to rule
1. even if deGea will go back to his home country in one day, he won't want to go in cheap. especially for madrid. it's not just for financial reason but he also requires guarantee of 1st place of pecking order in the position. just like coutois back to chelsea.
2. a new big contract serves the interest for both deGea and united
3. if this is the player's agent to jeopardise the contract because of another contract issue involved another player, the agent does not act professionally since he doesn't act on behalf deGea well to maximize deGea's interest
3. an english paper would not know what a spanish giant club really wants to do. and we would not produce such a story neither. so such madrid wants him free story can only come out from the player's agent to push through their own agenda
4. if deGea really left the club in summer of 2016, we should stop doing any business with that particular agent due to his non-profession. i don't care how many latin footballing stars are under his control. but i really don't think this will happen. most likely it's still under a bargaining process.
5. if this really happened, we should launch a campaign to investigate the current footballer's transfer market. to me, the current market is nothing more than a slavery market and those agents are indeed involving in human trafficking. i don't see those footballers living in an environment different from a prostitute controlled by an international human trafficking group. the numerous tevez transfer saga best tells the story. you might argue those footballers are more rich though.
6. imo, if you want to put a 250m break clause in a five year contract, you can only do so if the pay also worths 50m a year for five. and the value of the break clause diminishes when the remaining time of the contract lapses. i doubt the validity of a contract with a break clause (or so called release clause) worth more than the remaining value of the contract if it is presented in front of a court. this is simply because it means the contract is not signed in equity to reflect the true value of both parties, which is the main form of a slavery contract. what it needs is just another bosman case to rule
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I think it's just a safety net of sorts. If we don't sort ourselves out and start properly challenging for the biggest titles, he'll leave. Can't become the best unless you're winning it all.
Barney's right fwiw. Keepers, fairly or not, are valued much lower than outfield players. We can't expect to make Ronaldo money off him, let alone Di Maria money. If we sold DDG for £45m, he'd be the most expensive keeper in history by about £13m. That's not a bad deal at all.
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But in that case the clause can activate if we don't reach the CL, otherwise he just wants to leave.
Don't know what's funnier, Ogden still pretending he has sources at United or the Mirror suggesting we'd put a buyout clause on De Gea's contract.
Hopeless idiots. I mean anyone on the planet could write that Ogden article off the bat, has nothing new in it at all, just common fecking sense dressed up to look like news. Well, except for the obvious fact that De Gea going on a free transfer is quite likely to attract more than just one interested party.
Hopeless idiots. I mean anyone on the planet could write that Ogden article off the bat, has nothing new in it at all, just common fecking sense dressed up to look like news. Well, except for the obvious fact that De Gea going on a free transfer is quite likely to attract more than just one interested party.
I'm starting to get worried. Why the hell is it taking so long, ffs.
Where is all this talk of £45m coming from???
Given that he is out of contract after next season, his value in the summer is basically the equivalent of a season-long loan fee, whatever that would be for a top keeper. Similar to what we are paying for to Monaco for Falcao this season I guess
Given that he is out of contract after next season, his value in the summer is basically the equivalent of a season-long loan fee, whatever that would be for a top keeper. Similar to what we are paying for to Monaco for Falcao this season I guess
Said this before, I'm fairly confident that the £45m release clause is dependent on us failing to qualify for CL. No worries in that case, and fair value for both player and club imo.
It's coming from the story that he's going to sign a new deal with a £45m release clause.
Sterling for 35M is a bargain.
Yeah and Barkley for 50 and so many other English players.....
Havw seen it enough times before.
Mendez is not happy that we are not signing the had been for 40m.
Erm, no. Actually, I was talking about Sterling. Raheem? Liverpool? Biggest English prospect? Ah, forget it.
I know, but I am talking about the hype.
Let's put it this way, if I would be Liverpool manager, I would never sell Sterling for 35mil, but also as a Real (or who ever) manager I would not pay 35mil for Sterling. Not even in this market as Sanchez was cheaper and right now he is twice the player Sterling is.
He isn't that good at the moment, especially not this season.
None of the reliable sources I have seen so far indicate a release clause. We've never put 1 in a contract before have we?. I think it would more likely be a secret agreement with Madrid if that was the case.
Just because Sanchez was cheaper doesn't mean that Sterling isn't worth 35M, there aren't always deals like the Sanchez one available and normally you'd have had to pay way more for Sanchez.
The whole Liverpool team isn't as good as last season, but Sterling is one of the brighter players also this season.
That everyone seems to know about?
No ones suggesting that. Where I was disagreeing with him is his claim Sterling is worth more. I don't see how Liverpool could get £45 million for him.
35mil is a lot of money (you can buy really good players for it) and Sterling right now isn't playing close to that value (if we can put value on that). He had quite a dip in form this season, then improved again.
Liverpool isn't good as last season because of Suarez and Sturrige missing (but mainly the first one), so again it raises the question how good is Sterling (and I mean the whole package, not just running and dribbling). Januzaj was one of are brightest points last season (without as much freedom) and he was still not worth 35mil, not even 20 at the time. Again, I wouldn't sell Januzaj for 35mil, but also wouldn't spend as much on him as it is a risk, a big risk right now.
I don't think the amount of money really matters. Whether we sell him for £45m or £4.5m, we are still just as unlikely to get a goalkeeper who is anywhere near as good as De Gea, so losing De Gea is always going to be bad value for us. His replacement will be a downgrade, as Neuer and Courtois are completely unattainable. Lloris might be more realistic, but even then, I see him as being a level below De Gea.
Yep, world class players we can't afford to sell or lose. If De Gea really does want to leave then we need to get maximum money just like we did with Ronaldo.
Not now, no, but Sterling's ceiling is higher.
New keeper + hummel and a top cb will cover his loss
45 can get us 1gk ans 1 top cb
45 can get us 1gk ans 1 top cb
It doesn't exist in any case. Mirror.
Oh right, that would be a good result if we could secure it.
Can't see United inserting release clauses into contracts. We haven't ever done that before as far as I know.
De Gea for Ramos and Bale would be good
I think Real would laugh that one off, however those two would certainly ease the pain of losing De Gea
It seems pretty clear we don't need the money for him, so why on earth would we consider selling him? He's been the only consistent performer in the squad for over a year now and if we did sell him who on earth is going to replace him? For me it would be insane not to do everything possible to keep him happy right now, he's probably the most important man in the squad. And if Madrid get him, we need someone like Bale or Ronaldo coming the other way to make it worth the while at all, and even then I'd be more concerned about our performance on the pitch than ever.
We can't know for sure yet though, and it's a reasonable thing for De Gea to want in his contract imo. He's one of the best goalkeepers in the world, from his perspective it'd be a bad career move to sign a long-term contract with a club that is potentially declining. From our perspective we want to do anything we can to keep him, because he's great and we believe that after this season we'll be back in the CL as per usual. The logical compromise is a release clause dependent on the team's results.
Hopefully we'll find out soon either way
As much as I want to keep him, I imagine Woody will be far better than Gill in getting a deal that is good for us.
I can't see Real letting Bale or Ronaldo go, maybe Varane.
How can you be confident of that?
If Sterling signs a new contract we get £40m+, easily.
These stories won't go away. Saw another in the Telegraph today about Real waiting until De Gea is out of contract. Someone's stirring up shite all right.
You really are the archetypal Liverpool fan of the last 20 years. All Liverpool players are class and worth a shit ton, and all United players are pants and worth feck all.
If Sterling was worthy of a £40+ million 'easy' price tag all the big teams would have been after him by now, because that's the price tag of a top player. He's had a good season last time around, not playing that great this season and could well end up as nothing more than a promising player that never quite made it.
It's just such an easy story for journos to speculate on. It'll all go quiet after he signs.
Along with the majority of 'talented' English youngsters.
They hype them up, they believe their own hype, they amount to no more than a 'good' PL player.
Hope so, but Real just love to play these infuriating games. Best to ignore them I suppose.
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