I am sad that it looks like hes on his way out and he has been brilliant the last 2 seasons. But you cant really blame him for leaving when you actually google his Mrs....
Fair one Dave.
Fair one Dave.
De Gea Contract Situation
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This is bizzare, then why he left Spain in the first place ? If he doesn't have wage or football issue then other issues that require him to be in Spain have been there long time. It't like something just popped up and ' ohhh shit I have to go back'. I still refuse to believe he is leaving but it's just sad. I hate RM
What a shit way to wake up...
As for supporting him, we need to grow up. He's... almost single handedly taken us back to CL, and I couldn't be more grateful. I hope we give him a great reception tomorrow, he, unlike most of our team, has given more than 100% in order to obtain our aims. Without him, we probably would have finished lower than 7th, last year, and about the same, this.
(Assuming the rumours are true)
As for supporting him, we need to grow up. He's... almost single handedly taken us back to CL, and I couldn't be more grateful. I hope we give him a great reception tomorrow, he, unlike most of our team, has given more than 100% in order to obtain our aims. Without him, we probably would have finished lower than 7th, last year, and about the same, this.
(Assuming the rumours are true)
Fair point. I really can't think of any.
Chelsea have had good players in the last 10 years or so.
Carvalho could have left at his peak, but didn't. They did let him go to Madrid, when he was past his peak.
Essien is another, who they could have gone for at his peak. But signed him on loan, when he was past it again.
Drogba is another one obviously. Cech has been linked to both Barca and Madrid for quite some time, but has never happened.
Is correct.
I guess we have to run more like a business, Chelsea and City don't.
To be fair your post was one of the dumbest i've ever read on these forums and wtf is an internet village idiot?
Do you think a 23 year old Roy Keane, Nemaja Vidic, Patrice Evra, Rio Ferdinand, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer or Eric Cantona would look at the contract sitting on the table in front of them from Manchester United, and think "I'm not going to sign that because if I decide I want to leave for Real Madrid half way through my contract, they'll make me sit on the bench"?
No chance. Those are the sort of calibre of players and men we should be signing.
Rather the typical reaction a moron when he makes a silly point gets here. Especially when they behave like pricks and ask others to "wind their neck in". Sorry that deserves another
Let's see if it happens then. If your idea genuinely doesn't suck balls the club will go ahead with it I'm sure. But it does suck balls and they won't so enjoy living in your fantasy world.
There you go. Galactico quality was nowhere missing at Chelsea, and Real Madrid could have gone several times after these guys.
All good players, but none strike me as Galactico signings. None strike me as players that Madrid would tap up for a year plus and get worked up over. They could find their quality elsewhere, as good as they were.
Ronaldo and de Gea are on another level, in that regard.
Hazard will be that guy though.
Also what's de gea doing to get your tits so a rattled? All he's doing is not signing a new contract. The club will either sell him, or play him for a year. I doubt were as angry with him as some of you are. If he do keep him till the end of the contract the sensible thing to do would obviously be to play him next year and use the services of our best keeper.
I think Roy Keane, Vidic, Evra, Ferdinand etc. would not join a club that will punish their desire to move to a different club by intentionally depriving them of football so they are worse when they leave.
They will do what is best for themselves and join a club that acts professionally, they were not born to serve United.
I'm not fond of either tbf but lets hope they crash eh?
Real Madrid were interested in Essien before he signed for Chelsea. Many top clubs were before Chelsea blew everyone out the water with their bid.
Carvalho like Vidic was linked to Madrid for years.
I thinks it all crazy talk saying we should sign British players only. Vidic and Evra both rejected other clubs in their peak to stay with us and we need to sign more players like that. Herrera strikes me as another who won't leave us.
Nobody is talking about punishing anyone. He will paid handsomely for honouring the contract he signed of his own accord. There is nothing more professional than that. I completely disagree with you on the players above and your opinion of their attitudes or desires.
As for depriving him of football, we have deprived a multiple European Cup and Spanish League winning goalkeeper of any football this year without anyone calling for his human rights. The club can select players who are in the best long term interests of the club.
If the club decides to keep him until the end of his contract then of course he will play. He will not be put in the reserves or left on the bench for a whole season. Not unless he acts like a complete idiot and there is a dramatic reduction in his goalkeeping standards.
But this will not happen because he will be sold this summer if he doesn't sign a new contract.
But this will not happen because he will be sold this summer if he doesn't sign a new contract.
@diarm wants the Kim Jong Un football philosophy.
Rather the typical reaction a moron when he makes a silly point gets here. Especially when they behave like pricks and ask others to "wind their neck in". Sorry that deserves another
Let's see if it happens then. If your idea genuinely doesn't suck balls the club will go ahead with it I'm sure. But it does suck balls and they won't so enjoy living in your fantasy world.
Do you want to have another go at actually reading the end of my post and then constructing a legible reply?
The first part of that is incomprehensible and the last part sounds like the playground mockery of a 9 year old.
Nice work on the second smiley face though. Fair play.
The reason is SAF!
Because of SAF, we basically have an anti-player culture. Every clash with SAF resulted in selling the player, even if he was a super star like Beckham who begged to stay. In any other team, the manager would get the sack. In Man Utd we sold the player. It is not a surprise that our players have no loyalty.
diarm wants Manchester United to sign players who respect both Manchester United, and the contracts they are signing.
We need to get Bale as part of this deal.
Anything at all. Even some cheaply spun PR bullshit about him being unsure of the future would have been better then this silence besides him being in the best form of his career.
Not really sure why we are even having this discussion, LVG made it clear yesterday itself that we have a list of keepers to choose from if he doesn't sign a new contract which obviously means that he will be sold this summer.
Intentionally depriving a player of football in response to disloyalty is a form of punishment, the fact you see it as acceptable morally nevermind the disastrous business consequences that decision would have is worrying.
Your point regarding Valdes is also dumb.
And when you tell the player if he shows disloyalty to the supreme leader Louis van Gaal then he will be deprived of playing football for the remainder of his contract then what players are going to respect United?
Like I said, their quality could be found elsewhere. I think they were on Madrid's radar, but not 'must sign' players. We know how they act when they identify 'must sign' players.
Hazard will be one in 2016 summer, I think.
I'd love it if this happened (Kevin Keegan style)
It would be great to beat Real in a CL final with one of our academy players scoring the winner. Would be sweet considering the players they have bought from us.
We would look like idiots and cnuts though.
We either play him or we should sell him. Its that simple. We hope that our amateur negotiators will learn the lesson and handle players long term contracts at a time when it would be worth selling them immediately.
It'd just be like players from Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England that would chose an English club over a foreign one even if they were already playing abroad. It's the same as Spanish and Portuguese players most likely grew up wishing they played for a Spanish giant. The same with South American teams, firstly they speak Portuguese or Spanish and/or their footballing heroes played for one of the Spanish giants. Spain just has a lot of advantages over England unfortunately.
It's just unfortunate for us that 1. We're not a CL favorite at the moment and 2. The talent pool between UK and Spain is miles apart.
If David De Gea wants to leave, it makes sense to bring in his replacement as soon as possible. That would be this summer. De Gea took a couple of years to settle. In my opinion, the new keeper should be given that settling in period as soon as possible. The new keeper would be the starting keeper next year as that would be in the best interests of the club. De Gea being made to honour his contract is not an intentional punishment, just a consequence of him not being the most important first choice keeper for the progression of the team. Just as Lindegaard and Valdes weren't this year.
Not selling him to Real Madrid is more about denying a rival a world class player than punishing the individual.
Well argued.
Players who respect contracts and see Manchester United as every bit as big a club as Real Madrid.
There are plenty of players out there who see it that way, even if some of you don't.
Tottenham makes always problems with transfers, they lie to their players that they will let them go with not much fuss if they stay one more season an similar things and even good players still extend contracts with Tottenham.
I boarder line hate Barcelona, which is down to their antics on the pitch (surrounding the ref, diving..etc) probably a lot to do with 2009 and 2011 too but I hope they absolutely dominate Spanish football from now til the end of Ronaldo's and De Gea's career.
Hmm....I have mixed feelings about that TBH. On one hand you're right Spanish, South American players etc would prefer Spain to Britain. On the other hand, Beckham, Mcmanaman, Owen and Bale were all British. The former three were also homegrown talent the ones every one likes because they are sooo loyal etc. That didn't stop them from showing the middle finger to their clubs and join Real one of a reduced fee and Mcmanaman on free.
TBF once Beckham said that he still see United as his home and would love to be part of the club again one day. However that happened once he grew ancient and no one wanted or remembered him
In my opinion its more than just Spain. Real are a brand name which only pick the very best. Its like the Ferrari of football. We're more like the family type of car which is very durable but not very attractive (imagine the Antonio Valencia type of car)
I'd prefer Sam Johnstone to score the winning penalty in a shootout.
@amolbhatia100 @Empire
Out of interest, what would your stance be if Wayne Rooney came out tomorrow and said he wanted to sign for Liverpool?
Out of interest, what would your stance be if Wayne Rooney came out tomorrow and said he wanted to sign for Liverpool?
Because "wind your neck in" sounds like a proper adult. Well done, you.
You don't want to look at the sillyness of your stance, it's not my problem. The club and De Gea have entered into a contract. He wants to move elsewhere. Either we sell now or decide not to and he finishes his contract with us. At no point in time, should revenge and spite override pure merit as the deciding factor of who plays for Manchester United. And that's what will happen if we choose to let the contract run out without selling him. The club isn't going to make strange decisions like the ones you are proposing and let our best keeper sit int the reserves and an inferior one play instead.
Well to be fair:
Bale in my opinion would have came to O.T over Madrid if we were in for him, but Levy would have never let that happen#
Beckham fell out with SAF and was going to bed shipped out so why not go to a team who just won the CL and pretty much had a super star in every position
Owen, well, Liverpool wasn't a huge club during his time there so like all brilliant players he eventually made a move to a big club plus Liverpool would have never sold him to us or Arsenal.
McManaman same as Owen, won 2 trophies in 10 years and moved to a big club.
It's not Liverpool. It's not Manchester City. It's Madrid, there's no need or desire for the club to go all Heinze on him (unless he bahaves like a dick). And I'm sure we wont.
I'd like to know how many people would have an issue if this was a Scholes playing in Germany wanting to play his football in Machester, England.
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