I don't want Bale, the guy who's totally inapt to play possession football.
De Gea Contract Situation
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I don't want Bale, the guy who's totally inapt to play possession football.
Maybe I'm being a but harsh here....And I apologise if I am but....
Nani....5 year contract with major wages and now when the club wants rid, we cant....
Rooney....Moyes' pet....5 year contract for nothing really
Why the hell didn't Woodword and Moyes sign De Gea to a long term contract? Morons!!
Captain Scouse has done feck all to save us....De Gea has! Yet, Rooney is on eye watering wages as opposed to De Gea.
He's saved us so many times over the last two seasons....When the likes of Captain Scouse is either not arsed or injured.
I dread to think of our league position without De Gea this year.....And last year...
The only thing I'll say is, It's extremely snide from De Gea, after all the crap he talked about Atletico and he said he was one of them...Very two faced and snide
Nani....5 year contract with major wages and now when the club wants rid, we cant....
Rooney....Moyes' pet....5 year contract for nothing really
Why the hell didn't Woodword and Moyes sign De Gea to a long term contract? Morons!!
Captain Scouse has done feck all to save us....De Gea has! Yet, Rooney is on eye watering wages as opposed to De Gea.
He's saved us so many times over the last two seasons....When the likes of Captain Scouse is either not arsed or injured.
I dread to think of our league position without De Gea this year.....And last year...
The only thing I'll say is, It's extremely snide from De Gea, after all the crap he talked about Atletico and he said he was one of them...Very two faced and snide
I can't wait to see a few pig's heads to fly in his direction if he ever has the nerve to join Real and then play at the Vincente Calderon stadium.
We won't get a good fee for De Gea because, if he refuses to sign an extension, he'll have treated the club like shit.
Most players in his position would have signed an extension with an agreement in place to transfer later on, in order to get their current clubs a good fee, like Ronaldo, like Suarez, Reus etc etc.
What should be happening is that if De Gea wants out this summer, he should be telling the board that in good time and agreeing to a contract extension on the understanding that should Real make such-and-such a bid we'll agree to sell him. And so protecting his value and giving us time to scout a replacement. Coming in at the last minute and trying to force us into selling him is majorly cnutish
Most players in his position would have signed an extension with an agreement in place to transfer later on, in order to get their current clubs a good fee, like Ronaldo, like Suarez, Reus etc etc.
What should be happening is that if De Gea wants out this summer, he should be telling the board that in good time and agreeing to a contract extension on the understanding that should Real make such-and-such a bid we'll agree to sell him. And so protecting his value and giving us time to scout a replacement. Coming in at the last minute and trying to force us into selling him is majorly cnutish
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Yeah, genuinely forget about us....The whole "you'll be in my heart forever" shite and then he goes and joins the locals....Thats the worst part of it for me...What a snide cnut!
Never mind United but turning his back on the club who made him and joining their worst rivals? cnut
I'm quite shocked at that
I'm certain we've been trying to sign him up for a long time, but you can't blame him for not signing up last season when his manager was a certain Moyesy, who himself was holding a bloody 6 year contract. I'd be nervous to sign an extension in such circumstances as well.
Ungrateful twat. Atleast Ronaldo signed a contract so that we can get a decent fee, but this prick has gone in sneaky way to leave fecking us over in the process. I hope his career regress like Jonny Evans.
Moyes - Yes! Agree completely.
This year....You can argue about getting into the CL etc, but if it's to be believed, the terms Spanish media are reporting are less then what we offered.
Like I said earlier, I've no issue with him leaving United....For me, it's heartbreaking seeing a genuine world class player leave again (Ronaldo)
But, like I said, he was all for giving it large about how much Atletico means to him, writing letters to their fan clubs etc etc....Yet he's quite happy to join their main rivals.
I think it's very snide and in that case, he's a dick!
For United, he saved us too many times and as a United fan, good luck
I have very little time for any player who decides to leave us in his prime. De Gea can go feck off if he leaves us to join Madrid.
Basically this. That is my main gripe. What exactly has happened over the last couple of months which would have pushed him towards Madrid? He could have made his intentions rather clear long ago so that we could have already have had a replacement in line. Now every club will try to fleece us knowing full well that we are desperate for a new GK.
Wait, you lot are upset because you believe something The Daily Mail wrote?
Let me help you, Tomamtos won't give you Cancer, Princess Charlotte isn't the second coming, chocolate won't give you cancer, Polish gay Muslims are not coming to steal your dogs , de Gea has not signed for Madrid and using an iPad won't give you cancer.
I didn't realise Redcafe was populated mostly by my Nan. Hi Nan.
Let me help you, Tomamtos won't give you Cancer, Princess Charlotte isn't the second coming, chocolate won't give you cancer, Polish gay Muslims are not coming to steal your dogs , de Gea has not signed for Madrid and using an iPad won't give you cancer.
I didn't realise Redcafe was populated mostly by my Nan. Hi Nan.
I can understand as you don't watch LvG's press conference, no reason for a Chelsea fan
and no need to play wum with your analogies
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It's not the Mail quotes which people are agonizing over. What LVG said during the presser is more damning.
The end of it is that he genuinely hasn't made his mind up yet. Which makes him both whipped and a total moron.
He's made up his mind, everyone knows he's off. This was probably done months ago
Valdes signing was a shrewd one. He allows us to bid for DDG alternative without looking desperate. I shiver at the thought of ending up in the same shit we were in when we needed to replace Schmeichel and VDS.
However this advantage would melt away if we give Valdez the nod only for him to mess things up. Valdez has zero experience of the EPL, he had suffered a bad injury and he's at an age when its difficult for him to adapt. I think that Falcao and Shevcenko's experience had taught us that its difficult to teach an old dog new tricks.
Under such circumstances we need a plan B (or A).
However this advantage would melt away if we give Valdez the nod only for him to mess things up. Valdez has zero experience of the EPL, he had suffered a bad injury and he's at an age when its difficult for him to adapt. I think that Falcao and Shevcenko's experience had taught us that its difficult to teach an old dog new tricks.
Under such circumstances we need a plan B (or A).
I believe he's leaving. Lets face it guys, we haven't been able to stop players going to Real at the peak of our glory days let alone now. The fact that he's Spanish doesn't help.
DDG is going back home and the fact that we brought Valdes in is an indication that we suspected this move for quite some time.
Better players left before and the club was still standing, good luck to him wherever happens. It's easy to be insulting and ungrateful but DDG has been a rock for 3 seasons now. Latin players, specially if they're fantastic, are always susceptible to leaving for Spain.
If LVG truly believes he's off to Real Madrid he should be dropped immediately and removed from the first team squad. I don't want to be watching a player who doesn't want to be here.
It's not difficult to understand him if he decides to leave us. It's football today - players leave teams and join the rivals of their previous ones and no one is actually surprised. By the way, how can anyone be angry at him for doing this (leaving United)? He's been our best player for the second year in a row and the rest does very little compared to what he does in every game. I would say he deserves to make any decision right now.
And what about his replacement? Well, I guess that it is not going to be Valdes (I don't know whether it's because I'd love someone younger or not, but it would be too easy, right?).
And what about his replacement? Well, I guess that it is not going to be Valdes (I don't know whether it's because I'd love someone younger or not, but it would be too easy, right?).
Not every player that considers leaving the club deserves such a treatment. Some of them are cnuts (Tevez), some of them have deserved to make such a decision. There's no point in punishing de Gea for choosing Madrid...
I'll miss him, but he's going home to one of the biggest countries in the world.
Good luck to him.
Good luck to him.
Not sure that would help ongoing negotiations. Also quite petty really.
Its only a matter of replacing quality with quality. We have seen an erosion in quality at the end of SAF's reign. Quality players who left weren't adequately replaced (ex Cristiano Ronaldo) while the old guard grew old and quality replacements weren't brought in (Smalling replacing Rio, Jones replacing Vidic, Cleverley replacing Scholes etc). LVG had tried to re balance things up however losing DDG now will be a massive hit. We wouldn't be at 4th place without him + next year we will be having the CL to think about.
Irrespective of whether he wants to stay or not, we can't drop him now simply because we can't afford to. He's vital to our chances of picking up 3 points every game, and we still need to pick up 6 points and hope Arsenal will slip, so we can avoid UCL playoffs.
It's kind of sad how this has panned out. There's no issues with him leaving for Real, it's understandable why he'd leave, but leaving us in a spot of bother by going for peanuts and without a proper replacement ready is disrespectful to the club who nurtured him and turned him into what he is.
Aye, the Valdes deal has bought us some breathing room and a reasonable enough option to fall back on if our attempts to recruit another keeper go awry. Not a bad move on our part.
The writing has been on the wall for months. I am surprised that some people are surprised. Surprising.
We still have third place to fight for this season so we need him. But if Madrid try to lowball us with a poor offer then I wouldn't mind replacing De Gea this summer itself but not selling him.
I think it's now well past the stage of "ongoing negotiations".
It's a surprise alright.
Agreed, the Valdes signing looks intelligent right now, barring the scenario you've mentioned. Which leads us to wonder how long LVG was aware of De Gea's reluctance to sign a new contract to make such a signing. Did De Gea, like Ronaldo with SAF, tell LVG to potential replacements in the remainder of the season? If yes, I think it was wise not to make it public, too.
Ronaldo had the decency to sign a new contract.
Good Bye De Gea. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
at people blaming Moyes.
Good Bye De Gea. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
at people blaming Moyes.It will be a massive hit and whoever will replace him as the number 1, it will be a massive drop in quality. Maybe we should try to get Petr Cech but no way will Mourinho allow that to happen.
I dont think that DDG had the same relationship with LVG as Ronaldo had with SAF TBH. However LVG is an old dog who has been around for many years and had coached numerous European clubs. Its not as if he only managed United and some small club in Scotland or Liverpool. He won't be taken surprise by a 24 year old something that's for sure.
That's the beauty of having an experienced manager whose been coaching around for many years. Ah + the fact that players would rather sign for him than some idiot who only coached Swansea, Reading and Liverpool
Yep, can't blame him for want to go to such a big country. I bet Spain is twice the size of the UK, that's hard to resist.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Even if he's going to Madrid there's still likely to be a lot of detail left to iron out. This won't be the last we see of DDG's agent either so maintaining positive relationships is important.
Plus then there's the effect on the team's morale to consider. A fallout with DDG is hardly what the club wants, nor is watching Valdes struggle after being thrown in to the PL too early.
The way DDG's departure gets handled is important to the club, so it really isn't a good time for getting our score settling in first.
That would make him a colossal cnut then.
To have made up his mind but not inform the club for months.
Well, Mourinho is also a continental sort of manager so I can't see him complaining too much if Cech had to sign for us. This 'rival club' mentality is mostly a British thing. In Italy for example its normal for players to move at rival clubs and some top quality players (ex Baggio, Vieri and Pirlo) can claim to have played for all the top three clubs throughout their entire career.
The club would of known, would of been kept hush hush until the summer. He's a footballer, they're all cnuts I'm afraid
It looks like he's going to trade the relative security and support of United for the basket case, white hanky brigade. A place where managers come and go on a bi-annual basis and where the slightest failing is treated like a personal slight against the King of Spain. Even Ronaldo seemed to miss the consistency and warmth of OT after a couple of seasons of that lunacy. More fool De Gea if he expects anything different.
If he genuinely is moving back there for lurve (and making himself a hate figure among Atletico's fanbase in the process) he'll soon be missing United. Especially when his missus is chewing his nuts about him leaving his dirty trainers piled up beside the front door.
If he genuinely is moving back there for lurve (and making himself a hate figure among Atletico's fanbase in the process) he'll soon be missing United. Especially when his missus is chewing his nuts about him leaving his dirty trainers piled up beside the front door.
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