led_scholes
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How about no.
Aside from the poor shot stopping stats and not commanding his box…Dyche would do well to sell Pickford for a fortune after a huge Euros and pick him up for free. He’d be perfect for how they most often play.
He was treated horrifically and has every reason to be mad about it.Sounds deluded. The one responsible for his departure was he himself.
I mean, I fully understand if he's disappointed about the manner how he was let go, I would agree that the way it was handled was not handled well. He deserved better.
But if he really thinks that he was still performing well enough to justify not being replaced, and that he should be brought back, then he's delusional.
It's not a direct quote from him.I’ve been thinking for a while that DDG has been acting like a deluded ex-boyfriend convinced that their former lover will take him back as soon as they come to their senses. This comment makes me think that even more. He really needs to get over it and move on with his life.
I'd very much argue the opposite. Most top athletes, footballers and otherwise, have a hunger to constantly improve themselves. They don't make it to that level without that. They know they're damn good, sure, and when in a slump they believe in themselves to be able to get back to form. But they're also normally acutely aware when they are not performing to what they can do, and strive to rectify it. They usually don't sit there, tell themselves that their performance stats are lying, that their employer was wrong to let them go, that the world is wrong and unfair and they are still as good as they were in their heyday. That there is nothing to fix, nothing to improve.A delusion pretty typical of professional footballers.
Because, unsurprisingly, responding to setbacks by thinking "my critics are wrong, I'm still an excellent footballer, I can still play at the highest level," is a hell of a lot more useful to them than thinking "my critics are right, they were right to let me go, I'll never reach that level again". Self-belief is useful, often more so that realism.
Also, that "delusion" can only have been reinforced by him finishing the season with the most clean sheets, and his teammates voting him their POTS just the season before that. We can downplay the value of these things, but if you're David De Gea that's fairly reasonable fuel for thinking "actually, I haven't been that bad recently and didn't need to be let go"
Agreed, I still think it was quite classless from a club of our statureNope.
How the departure was handled was abysmal and he has every right to be miffed but thinking he would be welcomed back after a year of literally doing nothing is sheer delusion.
I remember when being desperate to play for Man United above any other club was considered a good thing. Now it’s just an excuse to pile on a player for being delusional.
It has to be remembered that we offered him that deal many months before he tried to sign it. It's not the clubs fault that he waited until the last week of the season, obviously trying to either force the club to increase the offer or get a better offer elsewhere, and instead it backfired on him. During that time the club was always going to be looking at other options (it would have been incompetence of the highest order not to), and his poor form at the end of the season combined with his incompatibility with what top teams want in their goalkeepers these days meant that the club (mostly ETH I presume) changed their mind. Until such time that both sides sign a contract, we were well within our rights to do so. That's the risk De Gea took when he didn't sign the contract much earlier when we first offered it to him.David De Gea needed to be moved on. But we agreed a deal and then pulled it. You can argue with their the initial decision to re-sign him, but you cant argue with the way they dealt with it. That was a disgrace to treat anyone like that, let alone someone who'd been here for 10 years. He was shit on my the people in charge at the time.
As a deluded ex-boyfriend waiting for my ex to realise she can't find anyone like me again, that hit right in the feelsI’ve been thinking for a while that DDG has been acting like a deluded ex-boyfriend convinced that their former lover will take him back as soon as they come to their senses. This comment makes me think that even more. He really needs to get over it and move on with his life.
Considering how quickly Spain binned him, I think Real would've been far more ruthless.How different and trophy laden would his career be if the fax machine had worked. Such a sad ending to his career.
He's such a well known name because in the early to mid 2010s he was world classConsidering how quickly Spain binned him, I think Real would've been far more ruthless.
They have no time for timid passive players. If anything, the reason DDG is such a well known name is because of Woody and Co. keeping him around for so long.
I'm not sure I agree with some of the comments about how badly De Gea was 'treated'. The situation wasn't ideal but that was largely of his own doing...
Around half way through the season, Ten Hag thought we should prioritise strengthening other positions in the upcoming transfer window, so he gave his blessing for the club to give De Gea a new deal. The club offered De Gea a new contract but (crucially) nothing was signed. De Gea then kept dropping clanger after clanger and Ten Hag came to the realisation that he needed replacing, so the club pulled the deal.
What was the 'nice' alternative? Proceed to give De Gea an expensive new contract despite his performances not warranting it?
He deseved a send off from the fans but sometimes circumstances don't allow for that - just look at Beckham. I'd imagine he was offered a testimonial but was too sulky to agree to it.
Yes he agreed a contract with himself, and then whipped it off the table before he could sign it on his way own.Sounds deluded. The one responsible for his departure was he himself.
I agree the club should've come to that realisation sooner than they did. I was saying he needed replacing back in 2022. But alas, this is the same regime that thought it was the correct decision to pay 80m for Antony, so it's fair to say that they weren't exactly on-the-ball. It's hardly surprising that they didn't notice De Gea's decline sooner. Then the Sevilla, West Ham and Man City games happened, and at that point, any idiot on the planet could recognise that keeping De Gea was a bad idea.The "nice" alternative was understanding that De Gea was an issue, understanding that the end of his contract was the natural point for him to leave, and letting him leave at the end of that contract in much the same way we just let Varane go. He gets a nice send off, he also gets months' notice to plan his next move, we get a new goalkeeper, nobody can complain.
As opposed to wrongly deciding that replacing him was so low down on the priority list that he should be given a brand new contract, only to then change their mind just a few months later off the back of some poor form that shouldn't have told them anything about De Gea they didn't already know.
He stayed at the top and only dropped of during his last couple of seasons for us.Considering how quickly Spain binned him, I think Real would've been far more ruthless.
They have no time for timid passive players. If anything, the reason DDG is such a well known name is because of Woody and Co. keeping him around for so long.
He dropped off around 2019. There was a reason Dean Henderson became our number 1 by the end of the 20/21 season and it wasn't because Henderson was quality.He stayed at the top and only dropped of during his last couple of seasons for us.
Yes he agreed a contract with himself, and then whipped it off the table before he could sign it on his way own.
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Yeah thanks but no thanks Dave
He didn’t exactly excel at doing the basics of goalkeeping like coming out for crosses and commanding his penalty area, Christ he couldn’t even command his six yard box.Sorry for a naive question but… is it really that hard to learn how to kick a balla at the age of 30? Given he was souranded with top coaches I think he could have worked on that element of the game