Nope your post was idiotic all on it's own.
Doesn't look like he is competing with you.
Bolded is nonsense and proves who actually could do with help.
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Thought we where after a left footed CB.
Yes, he is competing with you. It's not a contest btw, you are on your own.
Thought this died with LVG?
Lot of reports that we are looking for one. At least there were lot of reports, maybe they all reported when Ole and Ake's video went viral.
He shows some flair and can pull off the odd nerve-racking turn in his own box but he's behind Maguire in pretty much every aspect of actual defending.
And somehow they're both winning.
Yes, you.
Now please us know how Bailey is our "best CB" given you did a woeful job of it at first attempt.
Romero = not injury prone. Is actually wanted by a few clubs due to great shutout records over the years with us. £2m to £4m.
Dalot - £10m to £12m. Possible loan with option to buy
Jones - loan with option to buy
Rojo - likely free or low fee (£2m to £4m)
Smalling - Looks more like we want a total of £23m, but I guess we accept less if cash now.
Lingard and Andreas. £12m each. Possible loans with option to buy
About £65m total in this market but very few of them will be bought outright now. Clubs have no money. They will offer to take most of them on loan. Perhaps we can raise ready cash for 1 or 2: Smalling and Romero.
Regarding Bailly: it's difficult to make a proper judgement on him due to his injury record being rubbish. He seems to pick up injuries and niggles ridiculously easily, which is not what you want from a centre back. Imo, your centre backs (actually, no, your entire back five) should rarely be changing since you want them to develop some sort of understanding with each other. You want them to instinctively know where each other are so that they can drop back together, push up together, know who is marking who on set pieces, know who has who covered on crosses, etc. There needs to be an almost-telepathic type of link between them.
Whichever defender comes in next needs to have an exemplary injury record, imo. Need to be available for near enough every game. We have to stop chopping and changing every week based on who is injured and who isn't. Form is a bit different, however. I was one of those who was happy that we had Maguire and Lindelöf playing together most weeks, for the simple fact that we've given them both a go and given that partnership a chance of being fruitful. If it doesn't work out in the long-term, at least we can confidently say that it's been tested and it has or hasn't worked.
I'm not willing to give the Bailly experiment another try. He's had four years at the club, which is plenty of time to establish himself. He hasn't done so. Needs to be moved on and somebody else needs to be brought in to have their chance. If we keep Bailly for another year, we will be in the exact same position as we are now, only with him being a year older. It's about time this club were more ruthless, as top clubs should be.
Whichever defender comes in next needs to have an exemplary injury record, imo. Need to be available for near enough every game. We have to stop chopping and changing every week based on who is injured and who isn't. Form is a bit different, however. I was one of those who was happy that we had Maguire and Lindelöf playing together most weeks, for the simple fact that we've given them both a go and given that partnership a chance of being fruitful. If it doesn't work out in the long-term, at least we can confidently say that it's been tested and it has or hasn't worked.
I'm not willing to give the Bailly experiment another try. He's had four years at the club, which is plenty of time to establish himself. He hasn't done so. Needs to be moved on and somebody else needs to be brought in to have their chance. If we keep Bailly for another year, we will be in the exact same position as we are now, only with him being a year older. It's about time this club were more ruthless, as top clubs should be.
Hope this is not true. Finding a good CB is already difficult and expensive enough these days. Now you add the left footed thing and ...
Would be a good addition for you, but wont happen this summer
Yeah, we have Lindelof and Maguire who have good injury records but we need someone better. Bailly has all the attributes to be very good CB but he does something very stupid and then in the next moment he does something that you expect from elite CBs like awesome composure in the box or covering the space behind the defense line so quickly.
If he can stay fit then it will give him a good chance to show what he is capable of but he makes Jones look like ridiculously fit player.
Why suddenly Upamecano and united trending everywhere? Is there any credible news? Am I missing something?
Yeah, Ogden, French, Norway journalist reported story.
Or, are they reporting each other and just creating noise?
They all own Upamecano shares of Football Index
Maybe. I didn't read any of those articles.
Yeah technically and physically he is one of the best around I think. However imo he's too erratic and play to his instincts too much. And he's injured most of the time.
Theoretically imo he should be the best one to pair with Maguire. A good pair should have one is good with his brain to provide cover and another is aggressive and fast. Maguire and Lindelof are too similar, the brain type.
I agree that we need to be looking at upgrading on them. There are moments where I see that partnership working, but we need to continue to see what other talents are out there who could challenge for those spots. At the moment, we should consider Lindelöf and Maguire as the default pairing, which is something. It's then a case of improving on that.
Yes, Bailly does have his moments. But, like you've just said, he's inconsistent and unfit. That can't be what we need going forward. It's such an important position and we can't waste another year on waiting for him to come good, especially not when the other end of the pitch is starting to take shape, with a pretty tasty looking midfield and an exciting forward line. We can't upset that balance by having average or below average or decent but unfit players at the back.
Imo, there's a strong case for all of the back four's positions being up for grabs. We are certain that Fernandes should be starting with Pogba, plus Martial and Rashford. I can't say the same for any of the back four, besides Maguire. I'm more than happy for the club to bring in fresh talent to displace any of our defenders.
The only way we get £90 million for that motley crew of players is if we sell them as a job lot to Steve Bruce at Newcastle.
I think if Bailly went out on loan and managed to stay fit he’d eventually fetch a very good price. For us If he ironed out a few of the kinks in his game he could be a starter but he’s currently too unpredictable for a united defender. Apart from injuries it all seems to be mental with him as he’s got some skill and is physically blessed and very aggressive, on paper it should work!
I told you all.
Also, Bailly is not "our best center back"
Also, Bailly is not "our best center back"
What did you tell us?I told you all.
Also, Bailly is not "our best center back"
Which journalist from Norway?
That Barrow AFC were in talks to sign John Williamson from Stevenage for £6 fee and a pack of Marlboro Light. Apparently this required 20 separate posts on the Twitter thread.
I want 
What I am suspecting is that if player like Upamecano was available then chelsea would have snapped him or at least 2-3 good clubs would be competing by now. I can't believe united are the only one in race! Hence skeptical about credibility of the news.
Things hotting up or just rubbish?
He is just not fit to get extended run of games to show what he is capable of. Also saying that we can't wait for the player forever. We need to move on and sign the best players we can.
He had a release clause and openly said he wanted to leave and no one triggered it... you’re logic not quite making sense there. Cheslea knew about the clause and didnt trigger it as Rice is their no1 target
L’Équipe is usually not a joke when it comes to news source on French players... did something changed ?
Rubbish I guess. I think chelsea has done a waiting game till next year by not signing any permanent CB. Silva is a stop gap solution. Next year Upamecano release clause will be active and then everyone will pounce.
Was a joke
Will be an encouraging signing. We need depth at CB desperately
What's Dayot's injury record like?
What I read is that his release clause becomes active only until next year. Is that not correct?
Dead right. If you're not fit you can't be rated as top quality, or better than who is playing.
Bailly and Jones are in that bucket and should be moved on along with Smalling who had enough chances and is not good enough and Rojo who is also just not good enough.
The one who said about Thiago. Just checked, he didn't post anything on Upamecano. He just retweeted Ogden.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/dayot-upamecano/verletzungen/spieler/344695
One serious injury so far.
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