This extra time has been brutal. Players look fecked.
Day 17: England vs Germany | Sweden vs Ukraine (Ro16 7&8)
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he obviously didn’t try anything of the sort. Put the sauce down
The VAR replay was totally without context.
Half deleted I guess, haI got distracted mid post and thought I'd deleted that.
We originally had tickets to the semi. But lost them in the reduced capacity draw. Friend saw an option this evening that hadn’t previously been there - to buy tickets if you previously had them.
Was through the portal.
the only ones I saw were €600. Which lets be fair, you wouldn’t want to pay as a neutral to watch Ukraine vs Czech Rep (as an example) . at €100, which is what we’ve paid, I’m happy to watch anyone - but do hope it’s England.
I can't wait for this new red card debate
If one is a red, so is the other.
Jonathan Pearce on BBC is calling for Ukraine to get a penalty.
So impatient. They'll have 5 in ten minutes time.
So that's a red card too, right? Knee up, follow through. If his face was a couple of inches to the left, then it could've been a broken jaw. What's the difference?
The former, there have been red cards given for what the Swedish guy walked for consistently last 2 years, never see one for what happened with the knee in the face.
Accidental collisons do sometimes happen in football with players going for the ball and momentum, I'd mark that down as one.
Can't see either team being that competitive v England after this, only thing in Sweden's favour is likes of Isak and Kuluveski at least didn't play full 120 minutes so will still be young and fresh to have a go if they make it.
Not lunging off his feet with his studs up at knee height, no.
I can't quite believe this is so controversial for some of you.
Berg's knee didn't bend inwards, that's the requirement now.
No shit, the red card mob is silent. Why? Because it was in the opposition’s penalty box. Brain dead.
His face wasn't a bit to the left. The other guy got his leg bent out of shape. That's the difference
Every challenge is dangerous then, so you're gonna be dependant on the outcome of the challenge whether it's a red or not and not sure I agree with that. Otherwise - I agree with your second paragraph which is why I don't agree that it's a red, I have no clue how the rules are nowadays but just saying that I don't agree with it.
Defending is dead if you wanna apply that rule. There's always someone nearby when making a tackle, so there's always some "dangerous" element in it if the attacker decides to lunge himself into your tackle or gets in an unfortunate position where he ends up injured.
War of attrition!
Fancy Ukraine to do them on penos.
Fancy Ukraine to do them on penos.
Yeah so the Ukrainian should have had a red card too right?
I wanna know the difference.
Really expected Sweden to win this game comfortably...
It reminds me of the red card Pogba got for his challenge on Bellerin against Arsenal. His foot came down on his leg but that was never in a million years a red card. Pogba completely accidentally put his foot on bellerin it was never a foul let alone a red.
I don't remember the context of Son's incident but to me it was a text book cynical yellow card that ended unfortunately. I believe the red card was rescinded too even though VAR didn't over turn it.
I’ve read this a few times, but don’t understand it. Sorry
Watch the ref again when he goes to monitor.
Went over and first imagine was still of Danielsson connecting with Ukraine player. He was about to walk off and issue red card there and then before he saw next replay of the tackle before but by then his mind had been made up.
The game’s so dire everyone is talking about the red card.
That's exactly what happened with the red card incident for crying out loud.
I think he's saying that would not be a red card at any level of football except the very top.
Yes he didn't mean it, yes he won the ball first, and yes he was unlucky to connect with another player. But it's all irrelevant. You have a duty of care in every action on the pitch. This is a textbook definition of a reckless challenge. He wasn't able to win the ball without a dangerous follow through that has wiped out the player. It's too forceful with a player closing in - as he cannot clear it without a heavy dangerous follow through. A clean version of the challenge would be a clearance where the follow through isn't hurtling through another player's anterior cruciate ligament. And if he cannot do that, he shouldn't have lunged in the first place, and should have stayed on his feet.
Nonsense we just stop good defending and we deny players going off their feet which is a great part of the game. No surprise that this pathetic way of thinking has made the game worse than it was.
bloody hell Ukraine....get some players in the box and put the crosses in there
I just don’t agree with that. The Ukrainian player has a duty as the player with the situation unfolding in front of him to look after himself. Instead he charges into contact and got hurt. Unlike the Swedish player who couldn’t have seen what was going to happen as he was focusing on the ball. The Ukrainian player effectively fouled the Swedish player in the air.
In my opinion the Ukrainian player instigated the contact and was reckless. He should have pulled out of the challenge to ensure he didn’t hurt a player in the air.
My stomach can’t take this game, brutal
Worst thing about nailed on red cards are the shit Johnnie Chochran impressions they spurn
Dropping like flies
One was a defender the other one was in the opposition’s penalty box. That’s the difference but it doesn’t make sense.
I missed it. Was tending to a natural emergency in the jacks.
Feels like everyone wants Ukraine to win.
Attempting such a dangerous tackle is akin to trying to break the fellas leg.
HTH.
Now that's embarrasing from Ukraine player unless I've missed something. Perhaps he got poked in the eye.