David Villa | Monday 'defining day' for Spurs: Villa signs for Atletico Madrid

Better yet: Comes out with a Valencia kit on, almost the end of the match, scoreline tied Villa gets a pass in his own half, turns to fire the ball in his own net; own goal! The crowd is shocked until he pulls off his Valencia kit in celebration with the crowd only to find there's a United kit underneath with Villa, 20 on the back!! He runs over to give Papa Fergie a big hug. "Welcome to the family."

Then United and Villa go on and win an unprecedented "quintuple". Real come with a bid in the following summer and he leaves for a 100-million pound deal, surpass even the Ronaldo's deal. In Villa's deal, Benzema is supposed to head in the opposite direction. During Benzema's first season with United, he wins the treble. In the summer, Real come under administration as their debts mount. Many star players beg to join United but S.A.F. refuses, citing their age as a factor. :wenger:
 
You mean like:

-----Villa--------Torres-----
---------Gerrard-----------
-----Kuyt-------Riera------
----------Masch-----------

Too offensive IMO. Riera is a wide man also, he'll be a headless chicken in the center. Not to mention their midfield overran when meeting more physical sides who'll put 4-5-1.

With their fullbacks overlapping they'll be even more prone to conceding on counters.

Conceding goals has never been their problem under Benitez, though.
 
It's bad enough to have Kuyt on the wings playing so defensively and now you want him to be a CM ?

Its not a CM though is it. Its more right midfield which is largely enough where he plays now. He puts in a shift all the way back to his fullback, as much as Park does.
 
That formation is made to have wingers who delivers plenty of crosses.Kuyt even if he's a winger in this diamond midfield, shouldn't played there.The way Rafa has used him is perfect for him
 
You mean like:

-----Villa--------Torres-----
---------Gerrard-----------
-----Kuyt-------Riera------
----------Masch-----------

Too offensive IMO. Riera is a wide man also, he'll be a headless chicken in the center. Not to mention their midfield overran when meeting more physical sides who'll put 4-5-1.

With their fullbacks overlapping they'll be even more prone to conceding on counters.

I'm not sure it is too offensive as whenever a winger plays for Liverpool the manager asks them to do a proper shift up and down. Kuyt certainly wouldnt let them down and if needed, Alonso could certainly play in one of the wider spots. He's done that for Spain. - and Mascherano made his name playing in a similar imperative position in front of the defence for Argentina. The only difference being he only had 3 defenders behind him instead of the 4 Liverpool would field.

If any squad in the premiership has the players for a diamond in midfield, I'd say its Liverpool.

Also, on Riera - he spent a lot of time last season coming inside and playing from an inside left position which is exactly what he is on that team sheet.
 
Basically the president that was behind all the financial fiasco, Soriano, returned a month ago having gained 51% of the shares and linked up with a mysterious company called Inversiones Dalport, an investment company supposedly from Uruguay but with an office in Madrid. Soriano announced that none of David Villa, Juan Manuel Mata or David Silva would now need to be sold, as all the debts would be wiped clean.

However, no information on Dalport was found and neither did an office exist in Montevideo like Soriano said. Suspicions became worse when fans noticed that the logo of an eagle used by Dalport had in fact been copied from a children's colouring book :lol: It all looks like an investment scam.

We will see what happens but before they had to sell and Soriano says everything has changed now but I don't believe him.

Interestingly I saw that bald bloke on SkySports (Graham Hunter?) who reckons he's in the know on all things Spanish, and he said that Barca had gone directly to the bank to whom Valencia owe all the debts in the hope that the bank would put pressure on Valencia to sell.

It's no wonder they don't want to sell to Barca if thats the case.
 
That formation is made to have wingers who delivers plenty of crosses.Kuyt even if he's a winger in this diamond midfield, shouldn't played there.The way Rafa has used him is perfect for him

He'd have Glen Johnson bombing on past him. Kuyt's crossing isnt bad and Johnson's is very good on his day. Gerrard is also free in his position to peel onto the flanks and Villa tends to play coming in from the left flank anyway. There would be plenty of width even if it doesnt seem like it from the pen and paper.
 
I'm not sure it is too offensive as whenever a winger plays for Liverpool the manager asks them to do a proper shift up and down. Kuyt certainly wouldnt let them down and if needed, Alonso could certainly play in one of the wider spots. He's done that for Spain. - and Mascherano made his name playing in a similar imperative position in front of the defence for Argentina. The only difference being he only had 3 defenders behind him instead of the 4 Liverpool would field.

If any squad in the premiership has the players for a diamond in midfield, I'd say its Liverpool.

Also, on Riera - he spent a lot of time last season coming inside and playing from an inside left position which is exactly what he is on that team sheet.
Well Riera is useful out wide to put up crosses or to cut inside. To play inside a 4-4-2 Christmas tree or Diamond, he has to be a good to class passer and will have some of his free role restricted. He's not a tackler, neither is Kuyt, who is better to put pressure on the opposition tho, and neither of them is even decent enough passer to connect defence to offence or at least hold the ball and run the tempo.

Xabi was their main man in midfield, and in a 4-4-2 they compliment with Masch well.

Without him on the team sheet, Gerrard will have to track back to take control of the midfield, otherwise they will get killed against a physical 5 man midfield with 2 DM. Kyut and Riera wouldn't string two passes together, Mascherano would struggle to win the ball back and he's not that class passer as well. Torres, Gerrard and Villa won't have enough service and would get frustrated.

TBH, I can't see Pool fielding Torres, Villa and Gerrard(only if they change their gameplay entirely) at the same time if it doesn't mean Gerrard on the wing.

From all Prem teams the one I can see putting up a diamond is Chelsea:

--------Essien--------
---Ballack------Mikel--
--------Lampard------
-----Drogba---Kalou/Anelka
 
Well Riera is useful out wide to put up crosses or to cut inside. To play inside a 4-4-2 Christmas tree or Diamond, he has to be a good to class passer and will have some of his free role restricted. He's not a tackler, neither is Kuyt, who is better to put pressure on the opposition tho, and neither of them is even decent enough passer to connect defence to offence or at least hold the ball and run the tempo.

Xabi was their main man in midfield, and in a 4-4-2 they compliment with Masch well.

Without him on the team sheet, Gerrard will have to track back to take control of the midfield, otherwise they will get killed against a physical 5 man midfield with 2 DM. Kyut and Riera wouldn't string two passes together, Mascherano would struggle to win the ball back and he's not that class passer as well. Torres, Gerrard and Villa won't have enough service and would get frustrated.

TBH, I can't see Pool fielding Torres, Villa and Gerrard(only if they change their gameplay entirely) at the same time if it doesn't mean Gerrard on the wing.

From all Prem teams the one I can see putting up a diamond is Chelsea:

--------Essien--------
---Ballack------Mikel--
--------Lampard------
-----Drogba---Kalou/Anelka

Ballack and Mikel give absolutely 0 width. Which is the main problem with the formation - the lack of width. Liverpool can get around that with their players and depend on Mascherano through the middle in the role he was born for, Chelsea would have to field Joe Cole on one of the the sides and Zhirkov on the other. Actually that would work out quite well. But it would still mean sacrificing Essien in a role he's not at his best.
 
I can't see us buying Villa, especially as SAF has said categorically that he will not be signing any more players. SAF does not lie.
 
Ballack and Mikel give absolutely 0 width. Which is the main problem with the formation - the lack of width. Liverpool can get around that with their players and depend on Mascherano through the middle in the role he was born for, Chelsea would have to field Joe Cole on one of the the sides and Zhirkov on the other. Actually that would work out quite well. But it would still mean sacrificing Essien in a role he's not at his best.

Yeah Cole instead of Ballack could be a decent one. Essien so far has been sacrificed at the RB position and in the center of defence, I doubt that plonk Ancelotti will have any problems putting him there.
 
I can't see us buying Villa, especially as SAF has said categorically that he will not be signing any more players. SAF does not lie.

Apart from that time he lied before we signed that Senagalese forward......
 
Yeah Cole instead of Ballack could be a decent one. Essien so far has been sacrificed at the RB position and in the center of defence, I doubt that plonk Ancelotti will have any problems putting him there.

:lol: You're probably right. But lets leave the mistakes to the amateurs and get our own lineups absolutely spot on!
 
From all Prem teams the one I can see putting up a diamond is Chelsea:

--------Essien--------
---Ballack------Mikel--
--------Lampard------
-----Drogba---Kalou/Anelka

Ballack and Mikel give absolutely 0 width. Which is the main problem with the formation - the lack of width. Liverpool can get around that with their players and depend on Mascherano through the middle in the role he was born for, Chelsea would have to field Joe Cole on one of the the sides and Zhirkov on the other. Actually that would work out quite well. But it would still mean sacrificing Essien in a role he's not at his best.
That was actually exactly the midfield Mourinho played in his last (full) season at Chelsea. (Well, switching Mikel and Essien.) Diamond midfields don't have the virtue of width, because they replace those light-footed, airy wingers with solid-as-a-rock midfielders. Vieira played on the side of Mancini's diamond at Inter.
 
That was actually exactly the midfield Mourinho played in his last (full) season at Chelsea. (Well, switching Mikel and Essien.) Diamond midfields don't have the virtue of width, because they replace those light-footed, airy wingers with solid-as-a-rock midfielders. Vieira played on the side of Mancini's diamond at Inter.

Makelele too. So basically only Lampard and Ballack were there from that lineup in the same positions.

With a player like Makelele or Mascherano specifically sitting in front of defence and playing from there, you simply dont need hard as rock central midfielders playing right and left midfield. You just need two players who are going to put in a good shift and put lots of effort into ball winning because they have a specialist backing them up. Some coaches just like to be as solid as possible and win with limited creativity as long as it works. Its quite negative though and the formation needn't be. A player like Kuyt or Park would be absolutely fine in one of those positions.
 
It's nearly 11am and that means the 'Stretch' is upon us.
 
The what? Have we been linked with Villa again I take it?

The stretch is the period between 11am and 2pm where we launch into (or out of, or indeed refrain from) transfer action. It gives time for the medical between 2-3.30 and then the official announcement at 4-5pm. Today's agenda is David Villa. Good times.
 
That hurts. To be fair I sort-of was right about Benzema.
 
But the time was bang on, as was our bid. I said during about this time now (12.01pm) that day that there was a battle going on. Madrid just won, was all.
 
Thanks Devil, anyway I'm off to a video conference with Gill for abit.