Maluco
Last Man Standing 3 champion 2019/20
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He has spent a fortune at West Ham and could have taken them down last season.
Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?Say what you want about him. His teams are disciplined, organised. Everyone knows their role and responsibilities. Without the ball, they keep their shape.
Fundamental basics. Why cant Utd do this under ETH? The fundamentals. Why?
Its a very good question.Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
Say what you want about him. His teams are disciplined, organised. Everyone knows their role and responsibilities. Without the ball, they keep their shape.
Fundamental basics. Why cant Utd do this under ETH? The fundamentals. Why?
He wanted Ronaldo, Bale, Fabregas.If only we had backed him he would be winning European trophies with us.
Man has an eye for talent, what can you say?He wanted Ronaldo, Bale, Fabregas.
I think maguire will regret not going to WH. The organisation, deep defensive line and protection for the CBs would have suited him and his game.It was exactly the shape issue that was why we did relatively poorly in the league last year. Once Moyes figured out how to get #the shape back despite Rice becoming a more attacking player our form shifted back towards a top 10 teams. This year with Rice gone we've been able to restructure the team and it really has helped.
Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
He suits Everton and West Ham was never capable of taking on a bigger gig than that.Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
Unos, dos, très reasons.Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
Because he got zero backing and Woodward couldn’t wait to get the knife out so he could bring in a “big name” to impress the sponsors.Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
Maybe if he got more than three quarters of a season it would have been different.Too big of a club for him in all honestly. He's just that type of manager where the likes of Everton and West Ham.are suited to him
He wanted Ronaldo, Bale, Fabregas.
He wasn't given a lot of time to. And that transition was a total cockup probably on all sides but he has his responsibilities.
We'll never know, maybe it's true that with Moyes MU would have hit a ceiling of finishing 4th to 7th (then again... It's almost what ended up happening), maybe he was too small time for us, and that brand of defensive football is not always easy to sell on especially when you're a "big club" (it's not forbidden per se, Mourinho was given liberty for it, I suspect bosses like to have more panache and entertainment though)... but maybe he could have done a job at United as the great British coach playing the good old counter.
This West Ham job proves that his Everton tenure wasn't just a one-off, Moyes is allegedly temperamental enough to manage to do his job despite his bosses not being... optimal if not passively hostile (he's on sack watch since last year).
Even this transfer window started with him and the new technical director being at loggerheads (reportedly) but they did have what appear to be a good summer recruitment wise mixing both his targets and the ones from Steidten.
That said, as noted above, not the cheapest team builder.
Maybe if he got more than three quarters of a season it would have been different.
Maybe if he got more than three quarters of a season it would have been different.
DDG
Rafael - Rio - Jagielka - Evra
Carrick - Fabregas
Ronaldo - Rooney - Bale
van Persie
Would've walked the league if we had listened to him.
Maybe if he got more than three quarters of a season it would have been different.
He was a neurotic wreck suffering 'performance anxiety', whilst half the players were on the way out physically and started checking out mentally even more quickly once Moyes came in, let half the staff go and brought in mid-range replacements - hence they weren't particularly enthused by the idea of adopting his grind-football and behaving like they'd just finished 10th instead of 1st the season before, for a start...Why couldn't Utd do this under Moyes?
Moyes is a good manager, always has been. However, I think the United job was a step too far for him as, like Mourinho, he will do best at a club that's not really expected to go out and win everything. I will say he was unfortunate to come into United when he did with Woodward also coming at the same time.He wasn't given a lot of time to. And that transition was a total cockup probably on all sides but he has his responsibilities.
We'll never know, maybe it's true that with Moyes MU would have hit a ceiling of finishing 4th to 7th (then again... It's almost what ended up happening), maybe he was too small time for us, and that brand of defensive football is not always easy to sell on especially when you're a "big club" (it's not forbidden per se, Mourinho was given liberty for it, I suspect bosses like to have more panache and entertainment though)... but maybe he could have done a job at United as the great British coach playing the good old counter.
This West Ham job proves that his Everton tenure wasn't just a one-off, Moyes is allegedly temperamental enough to manage to do his job despite his bosses not being... optimal if not passively hostile (he's on sack watch since last year).
Even this transfer window started with him and the new technical director being at loggerheads (reportedly) but they did have what appear to be a good summer recruitment wise mixing both his targets and the ones from Steidten.
That said, as noted above, not the cheapest team builder.
10 months is more than most failing managers get at big clubs.
Time wasn't Moyes issue at United. David Moyes being out of his depth and crumbling under the pressure was the issue.
Sounds like Alex quit on a dime so there wasn’t really time to do anything like that. Had Moyes just stayed at Everton he probably would have been much better off. He had just signed John Stones and would have spent the Moshiri money far better than the clowns who came in after him.To be honest he had his faults and he was probably a little... intimidated, too shy ?... of having the SAF legacy dumped on his lap. I think he both tried to fill the shoes to show he was up for the job but that first summer and season was wasted and he didn't really put his stamp on the team.
Wonder if Ferguson shouldn't have brought him one year as an assistant or co-coach ? Unusual, for sure, but so was Ferguson's tenure, his role at the club and supposedly the choice of Moyes himself as a long term solution, opposite to all football business trends.
People seem to forget that he lost the dressing room. He walked into the club with a weirdly big ego and it didn't come off well with the staff, or the players. No matter how poor West Ham were, they still played for him. So maybe the spells with us and Sociedad humbled him a bit.It was obvious by October 2013 that Moyes was out of his depth at United. He's a very good PL manager and has done a wonderful job at Everton and West Ham, but that's his level. Let's not be revisionists now.