David Gill Transfer warchest v2012
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I cant see us buying any big money players...
I'd love to know when we were top of the transfer tree globally. It's not been in my thirty years of supporting united.
I cant see us buying any big money players...
Change the record. As Gill said, we've got the third largest turn over in world football. Cash is and never has been a problem. We invested the best part of £100m last summer and we will no doubt do the same this year, maybe more.
What has ever happened to suggest we are skint?
£55m last year, £30m the year before, £20m before that, £35m before that, £60m before that.
"net spend?" so we let some players go which keeps a balance, is that a bad thing? Berbatov, Owen, Park and Macheda will probably be gone this year, it'll balance the books but it's not like we are being forced to sell, they are all surplus to requirements.
This club still has the clout and ability to attract when it needs to.
What makes a player whose rarely available, a decent choice?
I don't think anyone is expecting Messi. What many is expecting is to strengthen a position (CM) who had been screaming for new talent for quite some time now.
Well, I guess, as Lou Macari and the rest of the United employee in MUTV say.....no one can replace Paul Scholes.
Yes, but even if we do go out and buy a player, it wont be the player the majority on here will want.
Lets see if that is true. There's a big difference between getting kids with potential from Venky's and Fayed's clubs and signing players who are seeked by the big boys.
As long as it strengthens the midfield I am happy. I'm not expecting Iniesta (and no one really does that), however we can't keep on relying on the old guard.
I like and rate Gill as a CEO of this club. I think he's doing fantastic work and I hope he stays in charge of financial/ operational part of United for as long as possible.
But when it comes to transfers i don't take what he says as for granted.
Why would he come out and say we have transfers funds? To make sure other clubs demand more money from us? No. There are two reasons- either our transfers dealings are done and dusted we can afford such statements or we are getting some unknown, unproven players from small leagues/ clubs who will kill to sing for us. Either that or a season ticket renewal period... oh wait.
But when it comes to transfers i don't take what he says as for granted.
Why would he come out and say we have transfers funds? To make sure other clubs demand more money from us? No. There are two reasons- either our transfers dealings are done and dusted we can afford such statements or we are getting some unknown, unproven players from small leagues/ clubs who will kill to sing for us. Either that or a season ticket renewal period... oh wait.
De Gea £17m
Jones £16m
Smalling £11m
Vidic £6m
Evra £6m
Carrick £18m
Anderson £22m (I don't know the exact figure)
Valencia £17m
Young £16m
Nani £17m
Berbatov £31m
Total £177m
A team built just with players who have been bought during Glazer era.
But yes, we don't spend money.
Jones £16m
Smalling £11m
Vidic £6m
Evra £6m
Carrick £18m
Anderson £22m (I don't know the exact figure)
Valencia £17m
Young £16m
Nani £17m
Berbatov £31m
Total £177m
A team built just with players who have been bought during Glazer era.
But yes, we don't spend money.
De Gea £17m
Jones £16m
Smalling £11m
Vidic £6m
Evra £6m
Carrick £18m
Anderson £22m (I don't know the exact figure)
Valencia £17m
Young £16m
Nani £17m
Berbatov £31m
Total £177m
A team built just with players who have been bought during Glazer era.
But yes, we don't spend money.
Net spending?
Didnt we miss out on Robben/Ronaldinho before the Glazer takeover?
Essien was the summer of the takeover too iirc.
We dont get into silly bidding wars. And feck Peter Kenyon.
The Glazer ownership is far from ideal, but us not competing with certain clubs is not new.
I dont think it wouldve been much different had there been no takeover.
Completely agree about the central midfield. We havent signed one since 2007.. Fergie keeps talking about moving forward and not stagnating.. We really could do with fresh ideas in the middle of the pitch. Clev is a new face, but someone experienced would be a welcome addition.
I'll be disappointed if there wasnt a signing to play in those central areas.
Essien was the summer of the takeover too iirc.
We dont get into silly bidding wars. And feck Peter Kenyon.
The Glazer ownership is far from ideal, but us not competing with certain clubs is not new.
I dont think it wouldve been much different had there been no takeover.
Completely agree about the central midfield. We havent signed one since 2007.. Fergie keeps talking about moving forward and not stagnating.. We really could do with fresh ideas in the middle of the pitch. Clev is a new face, but someone experienced would be a welcome addition.
I'll be disappointed if there wasnt a signing to play in those central areas.
I think that Kenyon fecked those deals for good. I wonder whether Real or even Shitty could sign such players, if they had an enemy within their ranks.
Probably well over £50m since they've come.
According to this site our average net spending per season is that of 10m (2003 till 2011) which put us below the likes of Spurs and Liverpool. We do edge Aston Villa though (for less then half a million). Shitty and Chelsea have an average net spending which is around 5 times more then us.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/
We'll see whether that's the case.
I personally have my doubts. The comments from Fergie about City "mega spending" again this summer don't fill me with confidence. Getting excuses in early.
City and Chelsea have very rich owners. We should be ahead of Tottenham and Liverpool as we're much bigger than them but there has hardly been any need to spend more money than we have. We've sold plenty of players for good money which lowers the figure.
Our next spend since 06 is definitely higher than that. It's at least 50m, not sure what that site is on about.
At the end of the day, we did spend £55m last Summer, quite a bit of money and the most we've spent since 07/08, the problem was that we have become a weaker squad despite doing so, largely because Young and Jones were luxury signings. As much as I like having them there, I'd be disappointed if their fees and wages got in the way of us sorting out the midfield.
Our CM had been screaming for new talent for quite some time now, so yes, there was a need to spend more money then we had.
I don't think that Young and Jones had been luxury signings. We needed a winger who can play on both flanks (to replace Giggs and allowing us to release Park) + we needed a versatile defender with great potential. The big mistake was not investing in CM. If we did that then I feel that we would have won at least 1-2 trophies including the EPL title.
Jones was wanted by Chelsea (amongst others) who have deep pockets.
Valencia was wanted by Madrid.
We don't need feck all additions. We've performed well within ourselves this season and got 89 points, probably should still have won the league.
I'd be happy with a summer of keeping Pogba, getting everyone through a good pre-season, plus maybe Clyne who can cover both left and right sides.
That'd do for now, I'd expect us to win the league on the back of that.
I'd be happy with a summer of keeping Pogba, getting everyone through a good pre-season, plus maybe Clyne who can cover both left and right sides.
That'd do for now, I'd expect us to win the league on the back of that.
That's more down to Ferguson being stubborn, we could have signed a midfielder, we have had the money.
We tried to get a midfielder. 3 in fact. And we came tantalisingly close to nasri.
Luxury is a strong word, but we could've done without them. What I meant was that midfield was a far more important position to strengthen than CB and the wings, where we have some of the worlds best players. Although with Vidic unfortunate injury and Nani/Valencia's inability to stay fit at the same time I suppose we did end up using them a good bit.
De Gea £17m
Jones £16m
Smalling £11m
Vidic £6m
Evra £6m
Carrick £18m
Anderson £22m (I don't know the exact figure)
Valencia £17m
Young £16m
Nani £17m
Berbatov £31m
Total £177m
A team built just with players who have been bought during Glazer era.
But yes, we don't spend money.
You know that bloody Stoke spent more, right?
You know that they didn't, right? They spent far less, just failed to sell a Ronaldo.
We had a genetelmen's agreement with Madrid. They withdrew their interest once they got Ronaldo.
So basically outside of sales there's been just above £10m a season invested on players in the last 5 years.
I don't think they've reached £60m let alone £177m.
Their net spend is bigger because they've hardly had any worthy players who would go for a big fee.
Do you expect us to go around spending money just because we need to have a big net spend? We've done all we had to do. Arsenal have had a lower net spending than any other team in the league and possibly some Championship clubs. Net spend means little.
Yes, and we have filled in every position apart from central midfield - which I still think is more down to the lack of available players or Ferguson's reluctance to buy players for that area. Our wingers have cost £60m, our forwards cost another £65m and our defence is worth over £50m too. Oh, and two goalkeepers that cost £20m. It's a very expensive squad.
I doubt we'll even buy a midfielder, I could see Fergie buying Kagawa and thinking he has addressed the midfield area.
Luxury is a strong word, but I'd definitely say all our signings have been opportunistic. Young was in the last year of his contract, whilst Jones had a relatively modest buy-out clause and De Gea's value is pretty self explanatory, given his age and potential.
This is why there is almost no chance of us signing someone like Hazard, but a great chance of someone like Kagawa. I just hope the failure to bring in one top class midfielder doesn't cost us again.
We completely overpaid for Young though.
Much worse than the odds are that you will repeat this snivelling in every post you make on here
Or there's no point in saying otherwise at all. If we want a player and talk to his club, they won't be saying 'well, you know, Gill said they don't have much money, so we won't ask for much'. They'll try to get whatever they can, no matter what Gill says
You must be joking right?
I remembering seeing Gill's face about 5 minutes from the end on Sunday. He was shitting himself. This has really effected everyone at the club and it's nice to see Gill, SAF and some of the players come out with encouraging words at least. It makes me proud to be a red.