There is not much coming out of anywhere. It has been a curious summer so far, even Muppet FC over in Madrid and Shitty are surprisingly quiet.
FFP starting to take effect or are we due for an avalanche of muppetry after the Euros?
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There is not much coming out of anywhere. It has been a curious summer so far, even Muppet FC over in Madrid and Shitty are surprisingly quiet.
FFP starting to take effect or are we due for an avalanche of muppetry after the Euros?
Do we want a big profile signing then? If so, why? These players cost so much money and aren't guaranteed to perform well once they are with us.
Our best players over the last few years haven't been big profile yet they've been marvellous for us. Look at Ronaldo, Nani, Vidic, Evra for a start. Would we have swapped any of them at their best? Probably not.
Recently we've also bought Jones, Hernandez and the Da Silvas as young, low profile players. At the time these were classed as poor signings by a fair number of caftards, yet watching their rapid development has been far more exciting than buying a big profile player, who will inevitably struggle to live up to our sky-high expectations.
I'm all for buying promising young, cheap and relatively unknown players. It has many advantages.
The added bonus of sensible spending is that at least it will reduce the number of tiresome posts we get complaining that a player isn't worth what we paid for him.
Fwiw the transfer window opens on July 1st I think. Then we should see more movement, both in and out.
The thing that makes this summer more interesting for us is the fact that Barca and Real are so stacked they don't need anymore players. Not saying they won't be in for any but in the positions we need players i.e. CM they are absolutely stacked. Same with City.
When has that ever stopped them before?
I think the economy and FFP will definitely help our cause on this one.
They'll continue to sell and buy players as they see fit,. At least for City, there are still improvements that can be made. At Barcelona or Real they could bring someone in to freshen things up
True. I'm just hoping they will leave us some decent scraps
It's not over.
Usually when it is, SAF is telling media that he's happy with current squad and doesn't plan for further investmensts. This time, looks like we may try to make some more deals, especially with clever planning and creating financial space for other signings.
United has to be the best team of low profile players in modern history of football, among top clubs and Valencia is propably the best example.
In all honesty, after what we've seen in Bundesliga and the fact that this season objective watchers rated Shinji above likes of Ribery, Marin, Gotze, Robben and few others, we can assume, it may be more than just a low profile signing for absolutely safest price, possible. This deal is a win on so many levels.
Usually when it is, SAF is telling media that he's happy with current squad and doesn't plan for further investmensts. This time, looks like we may try to make some more deals, especially with clever planning and creating financial space for other signings.
United has to be the best team of low profile players in modern history of football, among top clubs and Valencia is propably the best example.
In all honesty, after what we've seen in Bundesliga and the fact that this season objective watchers rated Shinji above likes of Ribery, Marin, Gotze, Robben and few others, we can assume, it may be more than just a low profile signing for absolutely safest price, possible. This deal is a win on so many levels.
I simply can't believe we wont sign a central midfielder this summer as well. It was foolish to not till now. Would be lunacy to not this summer as well.
We have 5 central midfielders at the moment in Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher and Cleverley. And you can add Giggs to that list probably as well. Course there are question marks over two of them in Fletcher and Giggs but they still take up a space in the squad. Same with Park as well. We probably need to get rid before we can bring someone new in midfield.
Park as a CM 
Carrick is the only reliable midfielder we have.
I'm sure the big teams would be shaking in their boots at those 5 players.
The stuff that nightmares are made of
Ah don't get me wrong, I agree we do need a new midfielder. We may have to make some space though. At this moment for example I can't see how Park and perhaps even Giggs will get a game in the side. We'll know when pre-season starts if Fletcher is near coming back or not.
Do we though? Giggs and Scholes are grandads and won't play a lot, especially Giggs. I can't see Fletcher ever coming back and being the player he used to be. Anderson is perma-crocked. I'll give Cleverley the benefit of the doubt and assume last seasons injuries were just unlucky. Park is shite in CM. Carrick really is the only reliable option we have.
Plenty of space there for another CM.
Plenty of space there for another CM.
It's not even worth listing the midfielders we have to justify not buying a new one any more (perhaps two years ago)- we need someone who can be relied upon to stay fit, of an appropriate age.
I presume we do in terms of wages and actual squad space in the 25. My argument is if players won't play much then there isn't much point in having them around. We seem to have a few too many bit part players in midfield. That's why we probably have to get rid first.
More like Madrid and City have title winning squads and do not need to buy shitloads of players but just need 1 or 2 right signings to enhance the squad.
Managerial consistency helps in this regard.
It's still early.
Manchester United could get two Real Madrid midfielders on a free transfer ?
Yesterday we brought you the out-of-nowhere rumour that Manchester United were interested in Real Madrid's Fernando Gago. Fichajes said that Manchester United have an interest to strengthen the spine of their side, and Gago is one of the players being targeted, although they say no contact has been made with the Spanish club or Argentine player yet.
Gago made a big money move to Real Madrid from Boca Juniors in 2007, his first two seasons saw him make 69 appearances for the club but injury began to hamper him, which he's over now, and since Jose Mourinho turned up he hasn't got a look-in.
We dismissed it then as rumours but today there's a more interesting aspect to it in the Spanish press. Real Madrid mouthpiece Marca says that the La Liga champions could be forced to let four players leave the club for absolutely nothing. The footballers named are Gago, Lass Diarra, Altintop and Ricardo Carvalho and the reason given for free transfers is that all are on big wages and the club wants to get them off the bill, if that means letting them go for nothing then so be it.
Diarra was linked with a move to Manchester United last summer, not for the first time, but wasn't keen on moving. His agent was quoted by the Daily Mail as saying "Contrary to what is being said, Lass does not want to leave Real Madrid.
"He has two years left on his contract and is feeling well in Madrid.
"I have not opened negotiations with any club in either England or Italy, but if there is a great offer then we'll study it."
And that last sentence could be the crux of the matter. All the players are on large contracts and finding a club willing to pay both a transfer fee and continue to give them such a high salary is proving a difficult job.
Both the contracts of Diarra, 27, and Gago, 27, end next summer, when Real Madrid would see them leave for nothing anyway. The thought process is that if they're not going to be needed in the squad next season then the club may as well let them go for free this summer and save a fortune on wages, Marca says Real Madrid are trying to exhaust every possibility but it keeps coming back to clubs not being able, or willing, to match both a transfer fee and the player's salary expectations.
Value?
Yesterday we brought you the out-of-nowhere rumour that Manchester United were interested in Real Madrid's Fernando Gago. Fichajes said that Manchester United have an interest to strengthen the spine of their side, and Gago is one of the players being targeted, although they say no contact has been made with the Spanish club or Argentine player yet.
Gago made a big money move to Real Madrid from Boca Juniors in 2007, his first two seasons saw him make 69 appearances for the club but injury began to hamper him, which he's over now, and since Jose Mourinho turned up he hasn't got a look-in.
We dismissed it then as rumours but today there's a more interesting aspect to it in the Spanish press. Real Madrid mouthpiece Marca says that the La Liga champions could be forced to let four players leave the club for absolutely nothing. The footballers named are Gago, Lass Diarra, Altintop and Ricardo Carvalho and the reason given for free transfers is that all are on big wages and the club wants to get them off the bill, if that means letting them go for nothing then so be it.
Diarra was linked with a move to Manchester United last summer, not for the first time, but wasn't keen on moving. His agent was quoted by the Daily Mail as saying "Contrary to what is being said, Lass does not want to leave Real Madrid.
"He has two years left on his contract and is feeling well in Madrid.
"I have not opened negotiations with any club in either England or Italy, but if there is a great offer then we'll study it."
And that last sentence could be the crux of the matter. All the players are on large contracts and finding a club willing to pay both a transfer fee and continue to give them such a high salary is proving a difficult job.
Both the contracts of Diarra, 27, and Gago, 27, end next summer, when Real Madrid would see them leave for nothing anyway. The thought process is that if they're not going to be needed in the squad next season then the club may as well let them go for free this summer and save a fortune on wages, Marca says Real Madrid are trying to exhaust every possibility but it keeps coming back to clubs not being able, or willing, to match both a transfer fee and the player's salary expectations.
Value?
Wouldnt mind Diarra at all for cheap. Would provide much needed cover for Carrick and perhaps more in big European games when we go for a more solid core to the team.
Diarra is fine but he'd start complaining after about two months, Gago is an awful midfielder - Roma didn't want to pay more than €3m for him.
Yeah Diarra on a free would be ok and Gago should head back to Boca instead.
Both are rubbish. No thanks.
What a load of complete balls. I think we are actively seeking players but wether we get them is another thing. Id settle for Stootman/Modric and a left back right now.
feck the LB! We have Evra, Fabio and Fryers. Until one of them leaves, i cannot for a minute see how that position requires more urgent strengthening than CM.
Get that sorted and we'll already be in far better shape, anything after that will be a bonus.
Such nonsense. Real are going to give Diarra a payoff when they could flog him for close to £10m.
I will be very disappointed and surprised if we don't sing a CM this summer. It's a must.
Spend as much as necessary on David Alaba - left back and CM sorted in one signing
I read today that Modric wants to work with Maureen at Real. Strootman would fit in nicely here though.
Even though Mancini came out in the press declaring that he needs to spend big again?
On the wane, going on loan, leaving so yeah we need another LB
Anderson can play left back, and if he declines Modric might have a stab
We desperately need a left back. Evra isn't actually good enough to be a Manchester United starter right now IMO. If one of our centre backs played at that level they'd be swiftly down the pecking order but we haven't had anyone (fit) to pick infront of him.
Whatever happened with Clyne? He's a full back no? I know he played mainly on the right at Palace though...
I'm 100% sure we're not done in the market. No way.
I'm 100% sure we're not done in the market. No way.
one of them has already left on loan, another one refuses to sign a new contract and the last one had very inconsistent form last season
Would be daft to go into the new season without signing a left back and letting Fabio go. You can't go into the season with just one left back. Just like you shouldn't go into the season with one defense minded central midfielder in Carrick. These are must-buys IMO.
We're not done yet, there'll be one big transfer that we'll attempt to complete - someone like Modric. Whether we'll be able to is a question but we'll try.
There might be some spending after the Euros but i doubt we have the big wallet for top players
A LB is arguably more important than a midfielder if Fergie gambles on Petrucci, Lingard and Cole next season. Evra's form is dreadful and it will get worse if no LB is signed.