I agree tbh, Romero has looked excellent every single time he's played.
David De Gea
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People talking about the financial aspect when it doesn't matter, as I've said before his girlfriend isn't moving to England and he is at that age where he's thinking of starting a family, that's most likely why he will move
Not to add the fact that we are light years away from Madrid in terms of performances and he's about to peak wasting his career at a team that hasn't been a competitive force for years now
Not to add the fact that we are light years away from Madrid in terms of performances and he's about to peak wasting his career at a team that hasn't been a competitive force for years now
5 Stages of grief:
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance-
Awaited
6. And then Delusional hopes
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance-
Awaited
6. And then Delusional hopes
Delusional hopes? This is Football. This game is Played on the Ground and not on the paper. Leicester city dint win the title and ucl quarters spot without the belief in themselves.
Manchester united mentality is to play like champions and not what you just said. There is no meaning to be a united fan without the belief.
This is exactly the kind of mentality that will push push de gea towards rethinking to stay or go.
And its Not bargaining its our detterant.
Years ago madrid lost Makalele For their new shiny toy and our want out beckham which clearly dashed them of the Ucl dreams. And Jose Mourinho and chelsea came out to be the biggest winner in that and not united Until you have the ability to hurt your opponents they are not gonna thnk twice about hurting you.
He signed a contract he has to honour it. United is a club bigger than a player. De gea is a bigger star than her. DID beckham or owen dint think this for themselves? To hellwith spanish mentality United should not budge one bit.
This all family talk is non sense and just adds to the narrative which will let us go soft on our perception. Did Gerrard pique move out of spain to produce babies with shakira?
Isnt Jose Mourinho living in a hotel without his family? Does't herrera or mata want ot go to spain to start a family?
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Signing a contract does not make player our slave. If he wants to leave let him leave than have an unhappy player.
Unless we make a statement than it will happen again with best spanish players in our squad or players with spanish culture. How many times will you negotiate in the future? If you dream of spain stay in spain until you mature. We want players who want to play for us.
And its not like Madrid is winning every damn thing in spain. They just managed to win 1 league title in 8 years even with ronaldo scoring 50 plus goals a season. that too under jose mourinho.
Man united have to compete for the ucl as well so he better go for free and gets us money from winning the ucl, in next 2 years if he wants out. If madrid wont wait long than,let them look somewhere else. All they care is winning about ucl and getting galactico's . If their team balance is disturbed they might as well loose the against top sides. We have a huge Bargaining chip here.
Hasn't he got 3 years left on his contract with the option of a 4th ? If so then we're in a very strong position if it were to happen and we're in no desperate need to sell him.
We've improved on last season and if we get a top four spot or win Europa we're back in the Champions League which means we could realistically sign pretty much anyone if they were willing to leave, the key to it all is Champions League football.
Another thing we should seriously look at is IF De Gea made out he wanted to go to Real with the strong position contract wise we're in then we should look at signing Kroos or Varane from Real, if Real said no then we could say to De Gea they clearly don't want you that much and if Real said yes then we'd be getting one of the best midfielders or centre backs in the world.
In reality though if we want to push forward and get back to where we were then selling to Real is a big backwards step as De Gea has been our best player for the past 3 or 4 years, we need to build on what we have instead of selling our best players when we're the richest club in the world so don't need the money.
We've improved on last season and if we get a top four spot or win Europa we're back in the Champions League which means we could realistically sign pretty much anyone if they were willing to leave, the key to it all is Champions League football.
Another thing we should seriously look at is IF De Gea made out he wanted to go to Real with the strong position contract wise we're in then we should look at signing Kroos or Varane from Real, if Real said no then we could say to De Gea they clearly don't want you that much and if Real said yes then we'd be getting one of the best midfielders or centre backs in the world.
In reality though if we want to push forward and get back to where we were then selling to Real is a big backwards step as De Gea has been our best player for the past 3 or 4 years, we need to build on what we have instead of selling our best players when we're the richest club in the world so don't need the money.
He will move to Real, we will qualify for CL next year and knock them out because of his mistake in the second leg.
Linked with Kasper Schmeichel this morning. Good to see the days of bang average keepers at United is coming back, baby!
Sir Alex in no more incharge. Mourinho will never weaken our team.
He'll go to Barca
Hahahahaa brilliant
buy out clause is €70m...there's nothing we can do if they offer that
Why not Qualify for ucl try to win the ucl and the prize money and let him go for free instead provided id he really wanna go
best to be philosophical about these things
we know De Gea wanted to go back home a year and a half ago
we know his long time girlfriend is from there
we know United were prepared to sell then
if De Gea really wants to go he will be missed but I trust the management of the team to take the necessary steps to replace him and to handle the deal well - given what happened a year and a half ago I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of agreement with Madrid so he could go at a later time
in saying that I was suprised that didn't happen last Summer....who knows - trust Mourinho to get us an excellent goalkeeper
we know De Gea wanted to go back home a year and a half ago
we know his long time girlfriend is from there
we know United were prepared to sell then
if De Gea really wants to go he will be missed but I trust the management of the team to take the necessary steps to replace him and to handle the deal well - given what happened a year and a half ago I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of agreement with Madrid so he could go at a later time
in saying that I was suprised that didn't happen last Summer....who knows - trust Mourinho to get us an excellent goalkeeper
The fee would be terrible compared to what we'll spend.. And then the phase of getting a new young promising keeper to get used to the physicality of premier league and the pressure of being at united..
Romero Isn't a bad shout
Romero Isn't a bad shout
And who said it is official? Spanish papers always plant stories
He could have left for free.
Jose's wife and family is also not in manchester, Pique dint move out of spain to be with shakira who is a bigger star than her.
We know he had just 1 year left. Now he has 3. In current market he is work 100m pounds . There is courtois around too who can fill in and is taller than de gea.
If de gea really wanna go than he has to go for free and win us ucl in that period.
I don't think he's leaving this summer to be honest. I think he'll stay another season at least. If Madrid buy someone else this summer then he'll stay long term.
Even if he leaves this summer we need to do everything we can to get Kroos or Varane out of them.
Even if he leaves this summer we need to do everything we can to get Kroos or Varane out of them.
But then again: who is in that class right now and would like to sign for no 6 in the league? Look at Liverpool struggle with Mignolet.. I doubt they havent tried to sign the next messi
Was never a fan of the way the move broke down 2 years ago, so in my eyes it's always been when and not if.
So I'm grand about this. Actually wish the move had gone through when it should have.
So I'm grand about this. Actually wish the move had gone through when it should have.
Keylor Navas' bad form was bound to start rumours again. De Gea would prefer a move there for obvious reasons but he won't push for it. If that's the case, it all depends on whether Madrid would be willing to meet our evaluation for him (expecting it to be 60-70m pounds). On the other hand, Courtois seems to show more willingness to push for a move and might be available for a cheaper price. Both players have a contract till 2019. So, both clubs would sell if Madrid are serious and willing to pay up.
who can tell what De Gea's thinking was - we do know that he was prepared to go - there's no point in comparing to other players or Jose because every individual is different
maybe he was worried about injury and losing everything? the security of a contract.
maybe he felt a debt to United when the deal to leave fell through - 18 months ago came as a shock to us in some ways.
alternatively and probably most likely he decided to sign on for us for another year or two, get a massive pay rise and signing on fee and then go when the time is right for De Gea, United and Madrid.
an alternative reason, and one that stands to reason if you consider Madrid spending last year, is that they couldn't afford the deal - last Summer in their dealings Madrid made an actual profit and their budget has been badly affected by new contracts for Bale/Ronaldo
I think the delay in the deal could be down to simple economics - the whole story about the fax machine etc stuff sounded like bullshit to me as well - maybe just Madrid trying to save face, blaming United
Real Madrid is a den of snakes, one mistake and he will be crucified, they eat their own over there.
How is the time right to united? Why are Own united fans pushing the madrid agenda? We are building a team who are gonna challenge on all fronts next year. And we have to beat the rivals to the best players and for the trophy.
We stay strong for our club. 50 m pounds is peanuts in this market. You could not even sign donnarumma for 35- 40 m. We dont need the money at all. We earn more than real madrid
Its higher than that. Madrid wanted 60 m for a 30 year old ramos.
No worries if David wants out even though I am his biggest fan.
Jose always sells one big name player, buys a good substitute and then wins the league title.
You can ask Zlatan. He'll confirm it.
Jose always sells one big name player, buys a good substitute and then wins the league title.
You can ask Zlatan. He'll confirm it.
it's a better time for United quite obviously as we were willing to part with him that August for about 25 million if I remember correctly
and let me check the maths.......yes 50m which you quote is a lot more
I think you are being a bit naive in this - these are people we are talking about and for De Gea to sign a contract with a release fee it's obvious he's planning his exit down the line - we don't own the player, we just have an agreement that he will play for us for a period of time or until a release clause is met - having the release clause is the compromise between United and De Gea so he can go at a better time for us than 25 million in the summer of 2015 or free in the summer of 2016
If De Gea really wants to leave then it will be best to allow him leave as painful as it might be.
When Zlatan left Inter, he was the best player in Jose's team then. But in came Samuel Eto who provided the team with the right balance. That season, they won the treble.
At Barca, under Pep, people thought the club was insane to release Ronaldhino, Deco and Eto but their departure started a new era at Barca.
Football is a strange sport.
No, I've absolutely no confidence we'll reach the level of Real Madrid any time soon. I don't expect De Gea to wait patiently for us to sort ourselves out when he could be playing at one of the best teams in the world next season.
We were also hoping to sign Sergio Ramos so should that rumour start again? And are the release clause reports accurate? and who authertisized it?
Its About us. Not de gea. He can honour the contract and go for free We can win trophies and prize money with his performances to fill in the money we loose. If you make some Pathetic business decisions on the very top of the management we wont come near to win in europe. We need to de stabilize varane and kroos or casemiro and double their salary to hurt madrid team balance .
Oh Come on When we sold Ronaldo we were on top . Won the ucl 3 league titles in a row and we sold him for so less to a team who were knocked out of ucl last 16 for 6 straight seasons only for him to be happy when he had a 4 year deal remaining. We dint wanna pay 40 m for modric and fergie dint belive in spending extra to get a player so madrid got him. We secured the deal for Kroos and per moyes and Lvg came in and vetoed it. Varane was linked with us we signed jones and mourinho got varane for madrid. Now that's why they are there and we are where we are.
We let them get there.
If we let the same mentality run through we will always be here and they will always be there. Enough of this mentality , its sickening. We buy big this summer and challenge them for biggest honours in the game.
If de gea is unhappy let him be, We are Powerful enough to replace him and keep him unused or share the game time .
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Didn't we buy big this summer to challenge? We are still 6th and good chance it will be Thursday nights again next year. Your denial of this is impressive
this was an obvious case of Ramos using United for a contract and United trying to put the wind up Madrid in their pursuit of Ramos
in reality you can't hold players against their will for a prolonged period of time- the best you can hope for is an agreement like we had with Ronaldo - play well this season and you will get your move
i think De Gea, with tge release fee, is a similar kind of deal and I think he will go sooner rather than later
there's something smalltime about holding players to ransom and you need to consider the effect that has on the squad. you are better off just moving forward and replacing the player. a recent example is Payet.
agreed - you have to move forward and you can't keep a player who really doesn't want to be there